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Re: Simple Q&A #17 -- the "your mama's so ___ ... " edition
« Reply #920 on: October 01, 2010, 05:55:19 PM »
Q332: what spells or items could i use to significantly boost a spellcraft check?  i need help in reliably getting that dc 48 check to get some metamagic effect persistent spells.
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Re: Simple Q&A #17 -- the "your mama's so ___ ... " edition
« Reply #921 on: October 01, 2010, 06:11:12 PM »
Q332: what spells or items could i use to significantly boost a spellcraft check?  i need help in reliably getting that dc 48 check to get some metamagic effect persistent spells.

Q333: is an incarnum user considered an "arcane caster" ?  im trying to qualify for the obtain familiar feat...

A333:No,an Incarnum is not consider an arcane caster....He isn't considered a caster at all....
He is considered a meldshaper......

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Re: Simple Q&A #17 -- the "your mama's so ___ ... " edition
« Reply #922 on: October 01, 2010, 06:13:56 PM »
Q 331 Which spells are better made as potions than just cast as the spells themselves? To be more precise, which Personal-only spells of 3rd lvl or lower would be more awesome if used on somebody else instead? Brew Potion effectively lets this happen, right? [for a cost, but meh.] Example might be Bite of the Werewolf which is a pretty decent buff.
You can't make personal spells into potions.  This is a change from 3.0, where potions of glibness were my favorite item.

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The imbiber of the potion is both the caster and the target. Spells with a range of personal cannot be made into potions.
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So this is the DMG then. The PH hadn't really specified.

The advantage of Brew Potion over Scribe Scroll is just that the spells can be initiated as a standard action by the target instead of the caster (or anyone with UMD). Downside is that it's limited to 3rd lvl or lower NON-personal spells, costs double the gold and XP to make, and can't be scribed into a spellbook/prayerbook? Action economy is good, but the BSF just wants to full attack instead of use a standard action, and the rogue already has UMD.

Q 333 How can Brew Potion be considered a useful feat if one already has Scribe Scroll?

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Re: Simple Q&A #17 -- the "your mama's so ___ ... " edition
« Reply #923 on: October 01, 2010, 06:17:26 PM »

Q 333 How can Brew Potion be considered a useful feat if one already has Scribe Scroll?


because anyone can use a potion.  you need to have the spell on your list, and be able to cast it, or enough umd ranks to make a scroll work.

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Re: Simple Q&A #17 -- the "your mama's so ___ ... " edition
« Reply #924 on: October 01, 2010, 06:24:35 PM »

Q 333 How can Brew Potion be considered a useful feat if one already has Scribe Scroll?


because anyone can use a potion.  you need to have the spell on your list, and be able to cast it, or enough umd ranks to make a scroll work.
Also, there are some retainer capsules that let you imbibe potions as a swift action IIRC.
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Re: Simple Q&A #17 -- the "your mama's so ___ ... " edition
« Reply #925 on: October 01, 2010, 06:30:10 PM »

Q 333 How can Brew Potion be considered a useful feat if one already has Scribe Scroll?


because anyone can use a potion.  you need to have the spell on your list, and be able to cast it, or enough umd ranks to make a scroll work.
Also, there are some retainer capsules that let you imbibe potions as a swift action IIRC.

Now that last one is something I hadn't known about.

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« Reply #926 on: October 01, 2010, 06:38:06 PM »
Also, the potions of blood and wind from Kingdoms of Kalamar: player's guide are actually moderately useful.
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Re: Simple Q&A #17 -- the "your mama's so ___ ... " edition
« Reply #927 on: October 01, 2010, 06:47:34 PM »
Q 334 How can Brew Potion be considered a useful feat if one already has Scribe Scroll?

A334:
Firstly, generally it's not considered a good feat.  It's limited in what spells can be used, and it's expensive.

However, as mentioned anyone can use one, and there's at least one feat that allows you to drink a potion but delay the effects until later, allow you to prebuff with one potion.  Not exactly amazing, but it's something that is possible.

Finally, as also mentioned items (usually bandoleers of some sort) can allow you to more easily access potions on your person.  I know of one that's worn on the arm, but I think if you are struck in combat there's a chance one of your potions will be broken.  I think it's from a campaign setting, maybe FR.  Additionally the PF SRD mentions just a regular belt that allows the same ability, without risk to your potions.

Edit: Q335: To qualify for level 3 spells for prestige classes ASAP do you need Versatile Spellcaster, Sanctum Spell and Heighten Spell or just the first two?  Can someone explain?  I tried to search the forum using the built in search but almost all the hits are people using it to qualify, and not an explanation.
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Re: Simple Q&A #17 -- the "your mama's so ___ ... " edition
« Reply #928 on: October 01, 2010, 06:53:40 PM »
Q 334 How can Brew Potion be considered a useful feat if one already has Scribe Scroll?

A334:
Firstly, generally it's not considered a good feat.  It's limited in what spells can be used, and it's expensive.

However, as mentioned anyone can use one, and there's at least one feat that allows you to drink a potion but delay the effects until later, allow you to prebuff with one potion.  Not exactly amazing, but it's something that is possible.

Finally, as also mentioned items (usually bandoleers of some sort) can allow you to more easily access potions on your person.  I know of one that's worn on the arm, but I think if you are struck in combat there's a chance one of your potions will be broken.  I think it's from a campaign setting, maybe FR.  Additionally the PF SRD mentions just a regular belt that allows the same ability, without risk to your potions.




Also in complete arcane there is the option of using alternate style potions....
So if you use the tile-potion the truenamer of the party(yeah right) can repair them....
So essentially you have unlimited potions for the price of one....

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Re: Simple Q&A #17 -- the "your mama's so ___ ... " edition
« Reply #929 on: October 01, 2010, 07:06:44 PM »
Edit: Q335: To qualify for level 3 spells for prestige classes ASAP do you need Versatile Spellcaster, Sanctum Spell and Heighten Spell or just the first two?  Can someone explain?  I tried to search the forum using the built in search but almost all the hits are people using it to qualify, and not an explanation.
Versatile spellcaster lets you burn two first level slots to cast a spell out of a second level slot.  Heighten lets you make that second level slot actually a second level spell (heightend magic missile or something).  Adding on Sanctum spell/earth spell makes that second level slot into a third level slot.
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« Reply #930 on: October 01, 2010, 07:18:08 PM »
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Re: Simple Q&A #17 -- the "your mama's so ___ ... " edition
« Reply #931 on: October 01, 2010, 07:31:51 PM »
Q336: is there an item anywhere that generates a moment of prescience effect? A resource for items that imitate spells will do as well.
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Re: Simple Q&A #17 -- the "your mama's so ___ ... " edition
« Reply #932 on: October 01, 2010, 07:37:29 PM »
A336
yes .... a Scroll of Moment of Prescience ...  :lmao ok, ok... i seem to remember something like that ... will try to find it

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Re: Simple Q&A #17 -- the "your mama's so ___ ... " edition
« Reply #933 on: October 01, 2010, 07:38:32 PM »
Edit: Q335: To qualify for level 3 spells for prestige classes ASAP do you need Versatile Spellcaster, Sanctum Spell and Heighten Spell or just the first two?  Can someone explain?  I tried to search the forum using the built in search but almost all the hits are people using it to qualify, and not an explanation.
Versatile spellcaster lets you burn two first level slots to cast a spell out of a second level slot.  Heighten lets you make that second level slot actually a second level spell (heightend magic missile or something).  Adding on Sanctum spell/earth spell makes that second level slot into a third level slot.

Yeah, just wanted to make sure that all three were necessary.  I had pieced most of it together, and then I saw a thread about just the two without Heighten and my brain hurt.
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Re: Simple Q&A #17 -- the "your mama's so ___ ... " edition
« Reply #934 on: October 01, 2010, 09:50:16 PM »
Q337: What issues of Dragon Magazine comprise all of the 3.5e releases?
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Re: Simple Q&A #17 -- the "your mama's so ___ ... " edition
« Reply #935 on: October 01, 2010, 10:25:29 PM »
Q338: What measures can one take to mitigate the attack roll penalty resulting from inappropriately sized weapons? For example, a ballista works just like a Huge heavy crossbow, and medium creatures take a -4 penalty when attacking with it.

To elaborate: My thought is to have a Sizing, Quick Loading heavy crossbow +1 and a Wand Bracelet. Make the crossbow Tiny using the Sizing property, then store it in the bracelet. When needed, use a move action to retrieve the crossbow, a swift action to turn it Huge and a standard action to fire your insta-ballista. Loading the crossbow's quick-loading space with 50 regular crossbow bolts and 50 heavy duty ballista bolts prevents laughter and ridicule from having your ballista shoot toothpicks.

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Re: Simple Q&A #17 -- the "your mama's so ___ ... " edition
« Reply #936 on: October 01, 2010, 10:34:24 PM »
Q337: What issues of Dragon Magazine comprise all of the 3.5e releases?

I will include 3.0 because they are supposed to be legal unless it is stated otherwise....
its from issue 274 to 359......

though 360 and some of newer ones have some 3.5 interest(like the epic binders).....

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Re: Simple Q&A #17 -- the "your mama's so ___ ... " edition
« Reply #937 on: October 01, 2010, 10:38:52 PM »
A338: Be larger (obviously), Strongarm Bracers (item, can't remember source) and Powerful Build (racial trait). Lots of argument as to whether or not they stack, most DMs say no. Or just pump up your hit bonuses.
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Re: Simple Q&A #17 -- the "your mama's so ___ ... " edition
« Reply #938 on: October 01, 2010, 11:57:55 PM »
Q338: Spontaneous Divination or Changeling Wizard 5th level ACF, and why?

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« Reply #939 on: October 02, 2010, 12:01:47 AM »
Q 340 Does a half-giant count as large for the purposes of PrC's? Namely War Hulk.
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