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Re: Simple Q&A #17 -- the "your mama's so ___ ... " edition
« Reply #620 on: September 25, 2010, 02:57:57 PM »
You can have the divine rank 0 template....
He does not have to have 30 hd if he is divine rank 0.....
Here use this accesory that updates Deities and Demigods to 3.5,It has the  Divine rank 0 template.....
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/20030718a

It is on page 6:Quasi-deity traits....

Immune to transmutation, energy drain, ability drain, ability
damage, mind-affecting effects; damage reduction 10/epic; fire
resistance 5; spell resistance 32; immortal
Weird. No increase to stats.

Rank 0

Creatures of this rank are sometimes called quasi-deities or hero deities. Creatures that have a mortal and a deity as parents also fall into this category. These entities cannot grant spells, but are immortal and usually have one or more ability scores that are far above the norm for their species. They may have some worshipers. Ordinary mortals do not have a divine rank of 0. They lack a divine rank altogether.

Glad to see an example of by how much that stat increases.  :banghead

Well you could use the deity array.....
It is 40,28,25,24,24,24......



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Re: Simple Q&A #17 -- the "your mama's so ___ ... " edition
« Reply #621 on: September 25, 2010, 03:01:40 PM »
You can have the divine rank 0 template....
He does not have to have 30 hd if he is divine rank 0.....
Here use this accesory that updates Deities and Demigods to 3.5,It has the  Divine rank 0 template.....
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/20030718a

It is on page 6:Quasi-deity traits....

Immune to transmutation, energy drain, ability drain, ability
damage, mind-affecting effects; damage reduction 10/epic; fire
resistance 5; spell resistance 32; immortal
Weird. No increase to stats.

Rank 0

Creatures of this rank are sometimes called quasi-deities or hero deities. Creatures that have a mortal and a deity as parents also fall into this category. These entities cannot grant spells, but are immortal and usually have one or more ability scores that are far above the norm for their species. They may have some worshipers. Ordinary mortals do not have a divine rank of 0. They lack a divine rank altogether.

Glad to see an example of by how much that stat increases.  :banghead

Well you could use the deity array.....
It is 40,28,25,24,24,24......
I guess I could, but that might be a little high for a 10th level character walking around with other 10th level characters. Kind of steals the show. I was going to try for a E6 or E8 scenario, but that doesn't look to be possible at the moment. Hmm. I'll have to ponder this. Gotta figure out what the LA difference between a Rank 0 god and a mortal would be too.
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Re: Simple Q&A #17 -- the "your mama's so ___ ... " edition
« Reply #622 on: September 25, 2010, 03:05:50 PM »
You can have the divine rank 0 template....
He does not have to have 30 hd if he is divine rank 0.....
Here use this accesory that updates Deities and Demigods to 3.5,It has the  Divine rank 0 template.....
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/20030718a

It is on page 6:Quasi-deity traits....

Immune to transmutation, energy drain, ability drain, ability
damage, mind-affecting effects; damage reduction 10/epic; fire
resistance 5; spell resistance 32; immortal
Weird. No increase to stats.

Rank 0

Creatures of this rank are sometimes called quasi-deities or hero deities. Creatures that have a mortal and a deity as parents also fall into this category. These entities cannot grant spells, but are immortal and usually have one or more ability scores that are far above the norm for their species. They may have some worshipers. Ordinary mortals do not have a divine rank of 0. They lack a divine rank altogether.

Glad to see an example of by how much that stat increases.  :banghead

Well you could use the deity array.....
It is 40,28,25,24,24,24......
I guess I could, but that might be a little high for a 10th level character walking around with other 10th level characters. Kind of steals the show. I was going to try for a E6 or E8 scenario, but that doesn't look to be possible at the moment. Hmm. I'll have to ponder this. Gotta figure out what the LA difference between a Rank 0 god and a mortal would be too.
I think that the consensus back at wotc forum was la 6,but I could be mistaken....
For your information in Deities and demigods the divine rank 0 does not give increased abilities scores in any of the examples just the divine rank 0 traits...
I I had to stat one I would roll his stats and everything else normally and just add the divine ranks o traits.....

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Re: Simple Q&A #17 -- the "your mama's so ___ ... " edition
« Reply #623 on: September 25, 2010, 03:08:51 PM »
If he is going to be 10 level think about applying the EINHERJAR template which is page 6 of the booklet I gave you earlier...
I believe that it fits thematically also....

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« Reply #624 on: September 25, 2010, 03:14:23 PM »
Well you could use the deity array.....
It is 40,28,25,24,24,24......
I guess I could, but that might be a little high for a 10th level character walking around with other 10th level characters. Kind of steals the show. I was going to try for a E6 or E8 scenario, but that doesn't look to be possible at the moment. Hmm. I'll have to ponder this. Gotta figure out what the LA difference between a Rank 0 god and a mortal would be too.
You could just reduce the Deity Array by 10 to each score. 30, 18, 15, 14, 14, 14.
In this case the LA would likely be in the general area of a pixie. (about +4)
Gods get better Stat bonuses, better SR, fire resistance, harder to beat DR, and a bunch of immunities.
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Both are immortal.
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Re: Simple Q&A #17 -- the "your mama's so ___ ... " edition
« Reply #625 on: September 25, 2010, 03:27:59 PM »
For your information in Deities and demigods the divine rank 0 does not give increased abilities scores in any of the examples just the divine rank 0 traits...
I I had to stat one I would roll his stats and everything else normally and just add the divine ranks o traits.....
But then that would make sense what I had posted earlier:

Rank 0

Creatures of this rank are sometimes called quasi-deities or hero deities. Creatures that have a mortal and a deity as parents also fall into this category. These entities cannot grant spells, but are immortal and usually have one or more ability scores that are far above the norm for their species. They may have some worshipers. Ordinary mortals do not have a divine rank of 0. They lack a divine rank altogether.

Aka, Rank 0 has higher stats. Like +10 to one or more. Hercules doesn't have a Str of 15, that's for sure.

For anyone curious why I'm wondering about this, I'm doing up a reincarnation one-shot where the players will be reincarnations of history's greatest heroes, and take on the worst of history's villains.
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Re: Simple Q&A #17 -- the "your mama's so ___ ... " edition
« Reply #626 on: September 25, 2010, 03:36:37 PM »
I know...
It is contradictory......
It is even more curious because while it says that they are supposed to have higher abilities scores than the normal, they don't seem to follow that in all of the examples......
That is why many perople use different systems for deities like dicefreaks or Immortal's handbook or even their own system...



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Re: Simple Q&A #17 -- the "your mama's so ___ ... " edition
« Reply #627 on: September 25, 2010, 03:38:53 PM »
I again suggest the deity array -10.  30, 18, 15, 14, 14, 14. Gives one mega-stat, one really nice stat, and the other4 stats above average.
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Re: Simple Q&A #17 -- the "your mama's so ___ ... " edition
« Reply #628 on: September 25, 2010, 03:40:55 PM »
No divine rank actually grants stats boosts.
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Re: Simple Q&A #17 -- the "your mama's so ___ ... " edition
« Reply #629 on: September 25, 2010, 03:44:22 PM »
I again suggest the deity array -10.  30, 18, 15, 14, 14, 14. Gives one mega-stat, one really nice stat, and the other4 stats above average.

I agree that these stats would be quite nice for this purpose....
the problem is that the la would be quite much I think......

Just to be clear by RAW you wouldn't get any abilities increase for being a divine rank 0, just the traits....
Even if the description of divine rank 0 says otherwise....

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Re: Simple Q&A #17 -- the "your mama's so ___ ... " edition
« Reply #630 on: September 25, 2010, 03:45:27 PM »
No divine rank actually grants stats boosts.

Well in the FAQ it was suggested that when creating deities of divine ranks 1 and above you should use the Deities array.....

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Re: Simple Q&A #17 -- the "your mama's so ___ ... " edition
« Reply #631 on: September 25, 2010, 04:01:04 PM »
See, the -10 actually works in the case of Rank 0 because four of them would be seen in your standard 32 point system, but the others are godly by comparison. As for LA, I'd say the +6 fits. That's not really something I'm concerned about though as the other characters will get something to bring them up as well. Namely King Arthur will be getting Excalibur and the scabbard, both artifacts. Likely give him his magic lance and shield too.

I'm trying to think of a time when WotC didn't contradict itself on a regular basis.
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Re: Simple Q&A #17 -- the "your mama's so ___ ... " edition
« Reply #632 on: September 25, 2010, 04:21:26 PM »
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Q 256 Is there a weapon in D&D that mimics a chainsaw, in any way, shape, or form? Something very jagged, or that can saw though bone or trees?
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« Reply #633 on: September 25, 2010, 04:26:06 PM »
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yes in D20 Modern .... look here:

http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/resources/systems/pennpaper/modern/smack/weapons.html

Chain saw 3d6(20/x2) Slashing - Large 10 lb. 

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« Reply #634 on: September 25, 2010, 04:27:48 PM »
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yes in D20 Modern .... look here:

http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/resources/systems/pennpaper/modern/smack/weapons.html

Chain saw 3d6(20/x2) Slashing - Large 10 lb. 
That's what I wondered. Hmm. Might have to make it a minor artifact with a couple of extra abilities.
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Re: Simple Q&A #17 -- the "your mama's so ___ ... " edition
« Reply #635 on: September 25, 2010, 05:21:40 PM »
For your information in Deities and demigods the divine rank 0 does not give increased abilities scores in any of the examples just the divine rank 0 traits...
I I had to stat one I would roll his stats and everything else normally and just add the divine ranks o traits.....
But then that would make sense what I had posted earlier:

Rank 0

Creatures of this rank are sometimes called quasi-deities or hero deities. Creatures that have a mortal and a deity as parents also fall into this category. These entities cannot grant spells, but are immortal and usually have one or more ability scores that are far above the norm for their species. They may have some worshipers. Ordinary mortals do not have a divine rank of 0. They lack a divine rank altogether.

Aka, Rank 0 has higher stats. Like +10 to one or more. Hercules doesn't have a Str of 15, that's for sure.

For anyone curious why I'm wondering about this, I'm doing up a reincarnation one-shot where the players will be reincarnations of history's greatest heroes, and take on the worst of history's villains.
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Re: Simple Q&A #17 -- the "your mama's so ___ ... " edition
« Reply #636 on: September 25, 2010, 05:51:20 PM »
A256
yes in D20 Modern .... look here:

http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/resources/systems/pennpaper/modern/smack/weapons.html

Chain saw 3d6(20/x2) Slashing - Large 10 lb. 
That's what I wondered. Hmm. Might have to make it a minor artifact with a couple of extra abilities.

I'm always a little irritated with the way chainsaws are depicted - like they're some kind of mega-weapon. I understand the rule of cool, but I've spent a lot of time running a chainsaw, and I can tell you that the chains break at the drop of a hat. Nick a rock, pinched in a trunk, find an old nail in a tree.... they're really quite a shitty excuse for a weapon. Every time I see a chainsaw vs sword battle, i just shake my head at the ignorance.

Not to rain on your parade or anything.

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Re: Simple Q&A #17 -- the "your mama's so ___ ... " edition
« Reply #637 on: September 25, 2010, 06:22:56 PM »
A256
yes in D20 Modern .... look here:

http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/resources/systems/pennpaper/modern/smack/weapons.html

Chain saw 3d6(20/x2) Slashing - Large 10 lb. 
That's what I wondered. Hmm. Might have to make it a minor artifact with a couple of extra abilities.

I'm always a little irritated with the way chainsaws are depicted - like they're some kind of mega-weapon. I understand the rule of cool, but I've spent a lot of time running a chainsaw, and I can tell you that the chains break at the drop of a hat. Nick a rock, pinched in a trunk, find an old nail in a tree.... they're really quite a shitty excuse for a weapon. Every time I see a chainsaw vs sword battle, i just shake my head at the ignorance.

Not to rain on your parade or anything.
Do you imagine that a chainsaw that happened to be designed for the problems a battle presents could, y'know, not suck?
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« Reply #638 on: September 25, 2010, 06:30:10 PM »
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« Reply #639 on: September 25, 2010, 06:42:16 PM »
Q257: besides extra turning, nightsticks, and raising charisma, what are some ways to gain extra turning attempts ?