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Takanaki · « **Reply #1860 on:** February 05, 2009, 02:32:24 PM »

You take none of the aging penalties and gain all of the benefits o_O? Great, thanks.

Negative Zero · « **Reply #1861 on:** February 05, 2009, 02:40:49 PM »

Do note that after reaching Venerable, a Kobold without a Cha mod will have about one year to live.

juton · « **Reply #1862 on:** February 05, 2009, 02:47:05 PM »

Q659:

How much does a Cleric (that starts) with no domains but full BAB suck compared to a regular Cleric? Specifically at low levels (1-6) before they can really start multiclassing for domains or whatnot. A little (Tier 2), moderately (Tier 3), utterly (Tier 4+). I think they may dip only a little, maybe bottom Tier 1, top Tier 2. Is not using DMM a bigger nerf?

Takanaki · « **Reply #1863 on:** February 05, 2009, 02:53:14 PM »

A: If you want full BAB then take DMM with Divine Power for Full BAB 24hrs a day, +6 enhancement to strength and +1xHD temporary HP.

Answering the question directly, you would be nerfing yourself quite harshly without good reason, but you would still be able to do a lot of things other classes could not.

Q: 660, what are some easy/cheap ways to get immortality in DnD? Not to die for a long time from natural aging... so a venerable kobold lives for a long time >_> Immortality, or a greatly expanded lifespan required.

Negative Zero · « **Reply #1864 on:** February 05, 2009, 02:57:00 PM »

Yeah, it'd be a pretty harsh change. I love Domains, they're awesome. Also remember that you're robbing the Cleric of one spell per level. That alone would be enough to justify full BAB. But then losing the access to some Arcane spells, combined with the loss of granted powers, really hurts.

A660: Unfortunately, immunity to old age death is quite difficult to find. But don't worry too much. If you have a Metallic dragon as your Dragonwrought choice, that'll add ten years per point of Cha mod. It's five years for Chromatic dragons.

Agita · « **Reply #1865 on:** February 05, 2009, 03:06:56 PM »

Quote from: Takanaki on February 05, 2009, 02:53:14 PM

Q: 660, what are some easy/cheap ways to get immortality in DnD? Not to die for a long time from natural aging... so a venerable kobold lives for a long time >_> Immortality, or a greatly expanded lifespan required.

A 660

The cheapest that comes to mind right off the top of my head would be turning yourself into a necropolitan... which, incidentally, I just realized doesn't work. Darn.

If you're a caster, perhaps take Ruathar, which slaps another 50% onto your max age, and get as much Charisma as feasible within your build. If you're a Cha-based caster, you should face no problems since Cha will be maxed anyway, though Ruathar is still a nice dip. Has awkward fluff reqs for a Kobold, though.

Dread Necro 20 will turn you into an undead, this works even on non-humanoids. For a Dragon option, there's Death Master, which turns you into a Lich. Green Star Adept 10 turns you into a Construct, but loses you 5 levels of casting progression.

Also, there's a magical location, a pool or well or something ("Spring of Youth", perhaps), which, if drunk from regularly, will make every year you age count as a day - effectively multiplying your life span by 365.25, assuming normal earth years.
EDIT: Found it. It's the Timeless Fountain, from Secrets of Xen'drik page 143. You can drink from it 1/year, and whenever you do so, you only age one day in the following year.

Negative Zero · « **Reply #1866 on:** February 05, 2009, 03:08:12 PM »

If you're evil, you could consider becoming a Dracolich.

Futher, you'll need your DM to judge the age thing. It just says +Cha years to the age of Dragonwrought Kobolds. It doesn't say if it means modifier or score. Most assume mod, but you might be able to convince your DM that it means score.

Bell · « **Reply #1867 on:** February 05, 2009, 03:10:18 PM »

Q661: Where is Knowledge Devotion at? I know what it is and what it does, but I've never actually seen it in a book.

Emy · « **Reply #1868 on:** February 05, 2009, 03:13:50 PM »

Quote from: Bell on February 05, 2009, 03:10:18 PM

Q661: Where is Knowledge Devotion at? I know what it is and what it does, but I've never actually seen it in a book.

Complete Champion.

archangel.arcanis · « **Reply #1869 on:** February 05, 2009, 03:19:19 PM »

a660

Expanded Psionic race Elan. You age for or 3 catagories but you have no max age and it states they will live indefinitely. Plus your not undead so no special vulnerabilities, but no immunities either. It is in srd but doesn't have any of the age stuff in there.

Agita · « **Reply #1870 on:** February 05, 2009, 03:24:01 PM »

Quote from: archangel.arcanis on February 05, 2009, 03:19:19 PM

a660

Expanded Psionic race Elan. You age for or 3 catagories but you have no max age and it states they will live indefinitely. Plus your not undead so no special vulnerabilities, but no immunities either. It is in srd but doesn't have any of the age stuff in there.

Yes, it does. Right here. Also, while the question itself wasn't explicitly about kobolds, the context implies that he's looking for ways to make a kobold immortal.

Emy · « **Reply #1871 on:** February 05, 2009, 03:26:17 PM »

Quote from: Negative Zero on February 05, 2009, 03:08:12 PM

If you're evil, you could consider becoming a Dracolich.

Futher, you'll need your DM to judge the age thing. It just says +Cha years to the age of Dragonwrought Kobolds. It doesn't say if it means modifier or score. Most assume mod, but you might be able to convince your DM that it means score.

I'd say it's "per point of charisma score" rather than by charisma modifier, simply because this is how I remember Dragon life spans being calculated in Draconomicon.

IIRC, a dragon lives for 1200 years, plus 50*charisma score (chromatic), or plus 100*charisma score (metallic)... so it would be most fitting that a dragonwrought kobold lives for 120 years plus 5*charisma or 10*charisma.

Bell · « **Reply #1872 on:** February 05, 2009, 03:28:27 PM »

Quote from: Emy on February 05, 2009, 03:13:50 PM

Quote from: Bell on February 05, 2009, 03:10:18 PM
Q661: Where is Knowledge Devotion at? I know what it is and what it does, but I've never actually seen it in a book.

Complete Champion.

Of course it's complete champion, because that's the one complete book I don't have.

BowenSilverclaw · « **Reply #1873 on:** February 05, 2009, 03:29:38 PM »

There are ways to acquire it

The_Mad_Linguist · « **Reply #1874 on:** February 05, 2009, 03:29:44 PM »

Quote from: Takanaki on February 05, 2009, 02:53:14 PM

Q: 660, what are some easy/cheap ways to get immortality in DnD? Not to die for a long time from natural aging... so a venerable kobold lives for a long time >_> Immortality, or a greatly expanded lifespan required.

A:660
When you have a year left before you die of old age, commit suicide in the MOST AWESOME MANNER POSSIBLE. Attack a T-REX by jumping onto it out of an airship with a surfboard that's MADE OF POISON KNIVES and ON FIRE. While holding onto a mithril kite IN A THUNDERSTORM. Oh, and the T-rex belongs to the party druid, and is covered in spikes, and BURNING WITH FIRE. THE FLAMES ARE MADE OF ELECTRICITY.

The electricity is also on fire.

Then, have the party druid cast reincarnate on you. Given that you explicitly retain your feats and class abilities, you'll now be a venerable dragonwrought random race, in a young adult body. Keep your age bonuses, lose your age penalties, have a 96 (+1*dm discretion)% chance of getting better physical scores, and extend the rest of your life.

You'll no longer qualify for epic feats, but honestly A) they aren't very good, and B) nobody really allows it anyway.

BowenSilverclaw · « **Reply #1875 on:** February 05, 2009, 03:33:23 PM »

TML, that was equal parts win and awesome

Nanshork · « **Reply #1876 on:** February 05, 2009, 03:35:49 PM »

BEST SUICIDE EVAR!

Emy · « **Reply #1877 on:** February 05, 2009, 03:37:41 PM »

Quote from: The_Mad_Linguist on February 05, 2009, 03:29:44 PM

Quote from: Takanaki on February 05, 2009, 02:53:14 PM
Q: 660, what are some easy/cheap ways to get immortality in DnD? Not to die for a long time from natural aging... so a venerable kobold lives for a long time >_> Immortality, or a greatly expanded lifespan required.
A:660
When you have a year left before you die of old age, commit suicide in the MOST AWESOME MANNER POSSIBLE. Attack a T-REX by jumping onto it out of an airship with a surfboard that's MADE OF POISON KNIVES and ON FIRE. While holding onto a mithril kite IN A THUNDERSTORM. Oh, and the T-rex belongs to the party druid, and is covered in spikes, and BURNING WITH FIRE. THE FLAMES ARE MADE OF ELECTRICITY.

The electricity is also on fire.

Then, have the party druid cast reincarnate on you. Given that you explicitly retain your feats and class abilities, you'll now be a venerable dragonwrought random race, in a young adult body. Keep your age bonuses, lose your age penalties, have a 96 (+1*dm discretion)% chance of getting better physical scores, and extend the rest of your life.

You'll no longer qualify for epic feats, but honestly A) they aren't very good, and B) nobody really allows it anyway.

Oh reincarnate cheese, what won't you fix? It's also possible you'll live to venerable once more, accumulating more bonuses. Then you do it again.

The_Mad_Linguist · « **Reply #1878 on:** February 05, 2009, 03:39:01 PM »

Wait a second. Don't use reincarnate. Use that other spell that's exactly like reincarnate, but only works the round after you die, and doesn't result in level loss. Last breath, or something like that.

archangel.arcanis · « **Reply #1879 on:** February 05, 2009, 03:47:56 PM »

Quote from: The_Mad_Linguist on February 05, 2009, 03:39:01 PM

Wait a second. Don't use reincarnate. Use that other spell that's exactly like reincarnate, but only works the round after you die, and doesn't result in level loss. Last breath, or something like that.

yup SC p130 and it is cheaper than reincarnate as well. 500gp of stuff vs 1000

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