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A264 Tactical Warrior 1 (Miniatures Handbook)

Also... Adapable Flanker?  Vexing Flanker?  PHB II, don't remember which one it is.

[kevin_video]

A264 Tactical Warrior 1 (Miniatures Handbook)

Also... Adapable Flanker?  Vexing Flanker?  PHB II, don't remember which one it is.

Adaptable. Need BAB +4, Combat Reflexes and Vexing Flanker.

[Agita]

There's also the Island of Blades stance from ToB, which you can get with two feats.

[InnaBinder]

A264 continued: Elocater 4 gets the ability, as well.

[snakeman830]

262: Which Shadow Creature ability is worth the extra +1 LA that the Shadow Creature template gives on top of the Dark Creature template?

There are numerous.  First off, your speeds are all increased by a larger amount.

Shaodw Blend blows the Dark template's Hide in Plain Sight out of the water.  There is no comparison between total concealment and an opposed check.

Shadow Template also scales with level, granting more abilities as you go.  Some of these abilities are crap (DR 5/Magic, Cause Fear 1/day) and others are useful (Fast Healing 2, Mirror Image 1/day, +2 luck bonus to saves).  Dark just doesn't have that.

[Zebu]

Q 265 My party of an 8th-level druid and an 8th-level Cleric needs to take down eight Spectres.  All at the same time.  They're going to rise out of the ground tonight and we can't run away.  So, optimizers...  What can we do?  Are there any spells in long-forgotten sourcebooks that'll help?  So far the Cleric plans to use Death Ward, but the damaging spells we've come up with (Spiritual Weapon and Call Lightning) deal so little damage that the Ward will probably expire before the Spectres do.

[Agita]

Q 265 My party of an 8th-level druid and an 8th-level Cleric needs to take down eight Spectres.  All at the same time.  They're going to rise out of the ground tonight and we can't run away.  So, optimizers...  What can we do?  Are there any spells in long-forgotten sourcebooks that'll help?  So far the Cleric plans to use Death Ward, but the damaging spells we've come up with (Spiritual Weapon and Call Lightning) deal so little damage that the Ward will probably expire before the Spectres do.

Ghost Touch Weapon is a 3rd-level Cleric spell from Spell Compendium. Buff up, wildshape into your baddest combat form, have the cleric cast GTW on your weapons before the Spectres rise, kick ass like the CoDzillas you are. I'm not sure off-hand if GTW applies to natural weapons as well - if it does, just have the Druid wildshape intoa Dire Ape or something instead and wield a weapon.

[cru]

A265 As for blasting, there's Vortex of Teeth, doing 3d8 force for round per level, no save, druid 4 (SpC). Use spiritual weapon, cure spells, melee attacks to mop up.
Use this to find more force spells: http://www.imarvintpa.com/DnDLive/FindSpell.php

[Zebu]

A 265
I don't think Ghost Touch Weapon applies to natural attacks; he'll have to get by on Greater Magic Fang.  That can apply to all of his weapons with one casting anyways.  I like the vortex, too, though the "eye" isn't big enough for two people.

But is there anything the cleric can do besides Ward?

[The_Mad_Linguist]

Isn't there some AOE holy water storm spell?

Also, the druid could prepare bone talisman and help with turning.

[Epimetheus]

A 265 Maybe try Hand of the Faithful (Cleric 4 SC). Even if your druid gets stunned by it for a short while, that character becomes immune once a fort save is made, the duration is hours/level, so it should stop some of the spectres from melee attacking you, so long as you stay inside the zone.

It's a good safety zone, at least.

SC has the AoE holy water storms... Although I think they were alignment based.

[Monotremeancer]

Isn't there some AOE holy water storm spell?

Also, the druid could prepare bone talisman and help with turning.

The name you are looking for is "Holy Storm", from SpC

[The_Mad_Linguist]

Who has dibs on starting the next thread?

[kevin_video]

Who has dibs on starting the next thread?

Me.

[Agita]

A 265
I don't think Ghost Touch Weapon applies to natural attacks; he'll have to get by on Greater Magic Fang.  That can apply to all of his weapons with one casting anyways.  I like the vortex, too, though the "eye" isn't big enough for two people.

But is there anything the cleric can do besides Ward?

Like I said, he can cast GTW on his own weapon, buff up, and go to town like he would do on anyone else. Divine Power, Righteous Might, hell, Divine Favor. Seriously, that's all there is to it, after Death Ward is up, the Spectres are really just a bunch of gimps with shitty hit points, shittier AC, and shitty attacks.
On the Druid, don't bother with Magic Fang, I'd say. Wildshape into a form with opposable thumbs (Dire Ape is the best one that comes to mind), wield a weapon, and have the Cleric cast Ghost Touch Weapon on that too.
If the spectres decide to hover out of range and wait out the duration of Death ward, then Greater Magic Fang becomes useful. Have the Druid Wildshape into a form with lots of natural attacks and the Cleric cast Blood Wind on him to make touch attacks at range.

[The_Mad_Linguist]

A 265
I don't think Ghost Touch Weapon applies to natural attacks; he'll have to get by on Greater Magic Fang.  That can apply to all of his weapons with one casting anyways.  I like the vortex, too, though the "eye" isn't big enough for two people.

But is there anything the cleric can do besides Ward?

Like I said, he can cast GTW on his own weapon, buff up, and go to town like he would do on anyone else. Divine Power, Righteous Might, hell, Divine Favor. Seriously, that's all there is to it, after Death Ward is up, the Spectres are really just a bunch of gimps with shitty hit points, shittier AC, and shitty attacks.
On the Druid, don't bother with Magic Fang, I'd say. Wildshape into a form with opposable thumbs (Dire Ape is the best one that comes to mind), wield a weapon, and have the Cleric cast Ghost Touch Weapon on that too.
If the spectres decide to hover out of range and wait out the duration of Death ward, then Greater Magic Fang becomes useful. Have the Druid Wildshape into a form with lots of natural attacks and the Cleric cast Blood Wind on him to make touch attacks at range.

Your biggest worry on that is if the specters hang out inside the ground.

[awaken DM golem]

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[Bortasz]

Hello
I will be play a Pirate Campaign ;] 9 lvl :]

I what ask. What is Best Class and Race for Pirates?
I love Clerics for Hand to Hand Combar and Spell so something similar will be nice... Any Ideas?

[kevin_video]

Hello
I will be play a Pirate Campaign ;] 9 lvl :]

I what ask. What is Best Class and Race for Pirates?
I love Clerics for Hand to Hand Combar and Spell so something similar will be nice... Any Ideas?

Sorry, dude. This one's closed. Try the other one.