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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Singing Tesla Coil Edition
« Reply #820 on: July 27, 2010, 08:04:24 PM »
lol A gish handbook? Sweet. But you're likely right about the lack of uber spells. I can see Practiced Spellcaster being very important.

I guess I question the beguiler simply because of the lack of offensive spells. I mean, what would you do? At lower levels you'd probably be good, but at 20th you likely can't buff anyone if only because no one needs it.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Singing Tesla Coil Edition
« Reply #821 on: July 27, 2010, 10:00:38 PM »
Q 238 Where's the Greater Dispelling +2 weapon ability from?
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Singing Tesla Coil Edition
« Reply #822 on: July 27, 2010, 10:06:13 PM »
Q 238 Where's the Greater Dispelling +2 weapon ability from?
Wherever it's from, it was reprinted in MIC. It's now a +1 ability, but requires Dispelling as a synergy ability before you can put it on the weapon (so it's effectively still a +2).
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Singing Tesla Coil Edition
« Reply #823 on: July 27, 2010, 10:20:49 PM »
Q 238 Where's the Greater Dispelling +2 weapon ability from?
Wherever it's from, it was reprinted in MIC. It's now a +1 ability, but requires Dispelling as a synergy ability before you can put it on the weapon (so it's effectively still a +2).
It's too bad that it's so limited (3 times a day each).
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Singing Tesla Coil Edition
« Reply #824 on: July 27, 2010, 10:56:29 PM »
Q234 Hello all you learned sages out there, I have a rather difficult conundrum I could use some help with. I'm currently in a kind of neutral evil spy vs spy campaign. I'm the mage who's good at dealing a fair bit of damage and being the party's face-man to the public (Sorc6/Eldritch Master2[DragMag 280]). I have a couple of characters in my party who are very stealthy and could easily steal from me and I've already been stolen from twice. Are there any practical ant-theft measures I can take? I could use spells like Shadow Cache and Leomund's Secret Chest to safeguard my stuff overnight but I need to have it on me and ready for use during the day and at least one of the characters is skilled-enough to get away with pick-pocketing. As a temporary solution I've coated the contents of my wallet with a contact poison and I've got a magic item that can cast neutralize poison but this doesn't seem to me to be a very cost-effective or insurmountable safeguard. I'm up for all ideas, both short-term and long-term solutions. Thanks for all the help!

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This isnt really what your looking for but I just had a funny idea. Buy a cursed item of any kind, and put it on a corpse that one of your friends will loot. lol that would be funny... but yea probly not what you need.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Singing Tesla Coil Edition
« Reply #825 on: July 27, 2010, 11:45:26 PM »
Q234 Hello all you learned sages out there, I have a rather difficult conundrum I could use some help with. I'm currently in a kind of neutral evil spy vs spy campaign. I'm the mage who's good at dealing a fair bit of damage and being the party's face-man to the public (Sorc6/Eldritch Master2[DragMag 280]). I have a couple of characters in my party who are very stealthy and could easily steal from me and I've already been stolen from twice. Are there any practical ant-theft measures I can take? I could use spells like Shadow Cache and Leomund's Secret Chest to safeguard my stuff overnight but I need to have it on me and ready for use during the day and at least one of the characters is skilled-enough to get away with pick-pocketing. As a temporary solution I've coated the contents of my wallet with a contact poison and I've got a magic item that can cast neutralize poison but this doesn't seem to me to be a very cost-effective or insurmountable safeguard. I'm up for all ideas, both short-term and long-term solutions. Thanks for all the help!
Get a bag of devouring and disguise it as your gold puch? Maybe buy/construct a varient one where it will only devour you if you dont know a key word?
 
This isnt really what your looking for but I just had a funny idea. Buy a cursed item of any kind, and put it on a corpse that one of your friends will loot. lol that would be funny... but yea probly not what you need.
Theres a lovely "cursed" item my friend invented... It's a reallly really stupid intelegent magic item, a belt usually. it'll detect to being a belt of hidden pouches and usually another rogueish ability. But it really just tried to help people being stealthy, and will use bard song (Yelling the word SNEAK loudly) when ever they make a move scilently, hide, slight of hand or disable device check, and cast light at the same time.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Singing Tesla Coil Edition
« Reply #826 on: July 28, 2010, 12:43:51 AM »
Q 239 Is there a way for a beguiler to learn lethal spells, or make his nonlethal damaging ones into lethal?
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Singing Tesla Coil Edition
« Reply #827 on: July 28, 2010, 12:44:41 AM »
Q 239 Is there a way for a beguiler to learn lethal spells, or make his nonlethal damaging ones into lethal?
The DM allows him to use the Warmage alternate class feature from the PHBII (I forget the name).
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Singing Tesla Coil Edition
« Reply #828 on: July 28, 2010, 12:45:37 AM »
Q 239 Is there a way for a beguiler to learn lethal spells, or make his nonlethal damaging ones into lethal?
The DM allows him to use the Warmage alternate class feature from the PHBII (I forget the name).
Ah yes. The one that lets you learn a spell that counts as one level higher (ie fireball would be a 4th level spell instead of a third).
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Singing Tesla Coil Edition
« Reply #829 on: July 28, 2010, 12:50:56 AM »
Q 239 Is there a way for a beguiler to learn lethal spells, or make his nonlethal damaging ones into lethal?
Grab the Mother Cyst feat from Libris Mortis and use your cyst-based necromancy to kill.  Own a scythe and CDG anyone made helpless by your magic (or use your magic to easily get at naturally helpless people like people sleeping for the night, and CDG them then).  Prestige out into Mage of the Arcane Order to grab some access to sor/wiz spells, Rainbow Servant for cleric spells, or Recaster for whatever spells.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Singing Tesla Coil Edition
« Reply #830 on: July 28, 2010, 12:51:37 AM »
Q 239 Is there a way for a beguiler to learn lethal spells, or make his nonlethal damaging ones into lethal?
Bloodline feats from Dragon Compendium.  Anything that adds domains with damaging spells (good domain has blade barrier which does pretty good damage, and comes from rainbow servant), or arcane discipel
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Singing Tesla Coil Edition
« Reply #831 on: July 28, 2010, 01:02:27 AM »
Prestige out into Mage of the Arcane Order.
That really only works for wizards since the benefits you get for gaining new spells must be written down in a spellbook, and if you don't use one, you don't get it. The others are interesting though.

Q 239 Is there a way for a beguiler to learn lethal spells, or make his nonlethal damaging ones into lethal?
Bloodline feats from Dragon Compendium.  Anything that adds domains with damaging spells (good domain has blade barrier which does pretty good damage, and comes from rainbow servant), or arcane discipel
For the bloodline feats, aren't you limited to the fact that you need to be Sorcerer 1?
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Singing Tesla Coil Edition
« Reply #832 on: July 28, 2010, 01:07:40 AM »
For the bloodline feats, aren't you limited to the fact that you need to be Sorcerer 1?

Isn't it just "Ability to cast arcane spells without preparation."?
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Singing Tesla Coil Edition
« Reply #833 on: July 28, 2010, 01:09:13 AM »
Q 239 Is there a way for a beguiler to learn lethal spells, or make his nonlethal damaging ones into lethal?
Bloodline feats from Dragon Compendium.  Anything that adds domains with damaging spells (good domain has blade barrier which does pretty good damage, and comes from rainbow servant), or arcane discipel
For the bloodline feats, aren't you limited to the fact that you need to be Sorcerer 1?
Knowstones if you can afford them. 1500* Spell level squared, add a spell of that level to spells known.
A player once asked me if there was any way to make a Tarrasque more evil... 3 sessions later he was stoned with D20s as the PC led an exidus out of the path of a Dire Tarrasque of Legendary Wonder.

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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Singing Tesla Coil Edition
« Reply #834 on: July 28, 2010, 01:25:34 AM »
Prestige out into Mage of the Arcane Order.
That really only works for wizards since the benefits you get for gaining new spells must be written down in a spellbook, and if you don't use one, you don't get it. The others are interesting though.

You're looking at the wrong thing as the benefit.  The extra spells from New Spell at levels 5 and 8 aren't the point.  The key benefit from the Beguiler point of view is, Mage of the Arcane Order lets you spontaneously borrow sor/wiz spells from the spellpool and cast them from blank prepared slots.  You can have these slots, because you've taken the Arcane Preparation feat to qualify for the prestige class in the first place.  Borrowing from the spellpool doesn't permanently learn the spells, but no spellbook is required.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Singing Tesla Coil Edition
« Reply #835 on: July 28, 2010, 01:39:50 AM »
Q 239 Is there a way for a beguiler to learn lethal spells, or make his nonlethal damaging ones into lethal?
Bloodline feats from Dragon Compendium.  Anything that adds domains with damaging spells (good domain has blade barrier which does pretty good damage, and comes from rainbow servant), or arcane discipel
For the bloodline feats, aren't you limited to the fact that you need to be Sorcerer 1?
Knowstones if you can afford them. 1500* Spell level squared, add a spell of that level to spells known.
Maybe I'm missing something but it says "Any spontaneous caster can use a knowstone, provided that the spell it includes is on his spell list. Beguilers can't cast fireballs or magic missile. I also read that it's level squared x 1000+expensive material components or focus.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Singing Tesla Coil Edition
« Reply #836 on: July 28, 2010, 01:42:24 AM »
Q 239 Is there a way for a beguiler to learn lethal spells, or make his nonlethal damaging ones into lethal?
Bloodline feats from Dragon Compendium.  Anything that adds domains with damaging spells (good domain has blade barrier which does pretty good damage, and comes from rainbow servant), or arcane discipel
For the bloodline feats, aren't you limited to the fact that you need to be Sorcerer 1?
Knowstones if you can afford them. 1500* Spell level squared, add a spell of that level to spells known.
Maybe I'm missing something but it says "Any spontaneous caster can use a knowstone, provided that the spell it includes is on his spell list. Beguilers can't cast fireballs or magic missile. I also read that it's level squared x 1000+expensive material components or focus.
*Face palm* right spell level squared *1500 are momento magica
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Singing Tesla Coil Edition
« Reply #837 on: July 28, 2010, 02:23:25 AM »
Q234 Hello all you learned sages out there, I have a rather difficult conundrum I could use some help with. I'm currently in a kind of neutral evil spy vs spy campaign. I'm the mage who's good at dealing a fair bit of damage and being the party's face-man to the public (Sorc6/Eldritch Master2[DragMag 280]). I have a couple of characters in my party who are very stealthy and could easily steal from me and I've already been stolen from twice. Are there any practical ant-theft measures I can take? I could use spells like Shadow Cache and Leomund's Secret Chest to safeguard my stuff overnight but I need to have it on me and ready for use during the day and at least one of the characters is skilled-enough to get away with pick-pocketing. As a temporary solution I've coated the contents of my wallet with a contact poison and I've got a magic item that can cast neutralize poison but this doesn't seem to me to be a very cost-effective or insurmountable safeguard. I'm up for all ideas, both short-term and long-term solutions. Thanks for all the help!
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lol i never thought about that... making a cursed item be a intelligent item thats trying to help the PC's but,  it is just to stupid to do anything. the belt thing is pretty funny.
in my last game one of the players(will) was annoying there powerful wiz friend about 'hooking him up with some free stuff"
eventually I gave in and gave him some boots and told him to only use them when he was about to die.  lol they were cursed boots of dancing. he tap danced his way into a early grave  :D


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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Singing Tesla Coil Edition
« Reply #838 on: July 28, 2010, 08:53:10 AM »
Q 239 Is there a way for a beguiler to learn lethal spells, or make his nonlethal damaging ones into lethal?
Bloodline feats from Dragon Compendium.  Anything that adds domains with damaging spells (good domain has blade barrier which does pretty good damage, and comes from rainbow servant), or arcane discipel
For the bloodline feats, aren't you limited to the fact that you need to be Sorcerer 1?
Knowstones if you can afford them. 1500* Spell level squared, add a spell of that level to spells known.
Maybe I'm missing something but it says "Any spontaneous caster can use a knowstone, provided that the spell it includes is on his spell list. Beguilers can't cast fireballs or magic missile. I also read that it's level squared x 1000+expensive material components or focus.
For low levels, learn Power Word: Pain with your first advanced learning. That's about as lethal as it gets for a lvl 1 spell.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Singing Tesla Coil Edition
« Reply #839 on: July 28, 2010, 01:10:00 PM »
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What are some good flaws to take as a spell casting class?