the true arcane dilliante

[Hijax]

If you're so keen on summon elder evils, just drop a sphere of annihilation into a well of many worlds to summon the Worm that Walks.

Kyuss is very awesome, but he doesn't come with a planet-sized undead skull of pure negative energy.

[McPoyo]

Check the suffocation rules again, that's Con*2 if you aren't doing anything strenuous. If you are fighting in combat, etc, it's 1/2 the duration.

Granted, if you aren't done within 10 rounds, you're still likely to be mightily screwed, but...

[Agita]

If you're so keen on summon elder evils, just drop a sphere of annihilation into a well of many worlds to summon the Worm that Walks.

Technically, you need to do that in a very specific place.
Also, if you do it you create a black hole that will eventually destroy the campaign world. (In other words, do it!)

[Tonymitsu]

Check the suffocation rules again, that's Con*2 if you aren't doing anything strenuous. If you are fighting in combat, etc, it's 1/2 the duration.

Granted, if you aren't done within 10 rounds, you're still likely to be mightily screwed, but...

Yeah that's great, except you also have this:

"After 3 rounds of exposure to the void, a living creature must make a successful DC 20 Constitution check or suffer excruciating pain, becoming stunned and remaining so until it returns to the atmosphere. Creatures that fail the check by 5 or more fall unconscious."

Unless you don't count being able to breath again as returning to an atmosphere... or you don't count the surface of the moonlet as void, in which case it probably has air.

[Anklebite]

....I lose internet for one week, and people use this trick to gate in gods?

I love this forum.

[Agita]

....I lose internet for one week, and people use this trick to gate in gods?

I love this forum.

No, no, not gods. Ancient incarnations of evil that bring disaster upon the material plane just by being nearby.

[McPoyo]

....I lose internet for one week, and people use this trick to gate in gods?

I love this forum.

No, no, not gods. Ancient incarnations of evil that bring disaster upon the material plane just by being nearby.

AKA my soon to be mother-in-law...

[KellKheraptis]

....I lose internet for one week, and people use this trick to gate in gods?

I love this forum.

No, no, not gods. Ancient incarnations of evil that bring disaster upon the material plane just by being nearby.

AKA my soon to be mother-in-law...

Congrats on getting married  Has your wife-to-be/husband-to-be figured out arguing with a CO-er is an exercise in futility yet?  

EDIT : All bases covered now...I think

[McPoyo]

....I lose internet for one week, and people use this trick to gate in gods?

I love this forum.

No, no, not gods. Ancient incarnations of evil that bring disaster upon the material plane just by being nearby.

AKA my soon to be mother-in-law...

Congrats on getting married  Has your wife figured out arguing with a CO-er is an exercise in futility yet?  

Yes. She argues like Giacomo, though, but with more theatrics. We don't argue much for that reason.

[Anklebite]

....I lose internet for one week, and people use this trick to gate in gods?

I love this forum.

No, no, not gods. Ancient incarnations of evil that bring disaster upon the material plane just by being nearby.

AKA my soon to be mother-in-law...

Congrats on getting married   Has your wife figured out arguing with a CO-er is an exercise in futility yet? 

think ya fergot to do something.

[McPoyo]

On my phone, so I failpoasted.

[KellKheraptis]

....I lose internet for one week, and people use this trick to gate in gods?

I love this forum.

No, no, not gods. Ancient incarnations of evil that bring disaster upon the material plane just by being nearby.

AKA my soon to be mother-in-law...

Congrats on getting married  Has your wife figured out arguing with a CO-er is an exercise in futility yet?  

Yes. She argues like Giacomo, though, but with more theatrics. We don't argue much for that reason.

  MORE animated than Giacomo...she must be Italian (not an insult, just a cultural observation from having dated a Greek Romanian who was also fluent in Italian and spoke in a similar manner...omg the temper, coming from me even lol).

[Anklebite]

....I lose internet for one week, and people use this trick to gate in gods?

I love this forum.

No, no, not gods. Ancient incarnations of evil that bring disaster upon the material plane just by being nearby.

AKA my soon to be mother-in-law...

Congrats on getting married  Has your wife figured out arguing with a CO-er is an exercise in futility yet?  

Yes. She argues like Giacomo, though, but with more theatrics. We don't argue much for that reason.

  MORE animated than Giacomo...she must be Italian (not an insult, just a cultural observation from having dated a Greek Romanian who was also fluent in Italian and spoke in a similar manner...omg the temper, coming from me even lol).

I prefer the ancient viking method of solving arguments. assuming logic doesn't work, both sides get plastered and start beating the crap out of eathother until no-one can remember what we were arguing about. tends to work.  if the argument is later recalled, or brought up again, the one who won the fight was right.

[McPoyo]

....I lose internet for one week, and people use this trick to gate in gods?

I love this forum.

No, no, not gods. Ancient incarnations of evil that bring disaster upon the material plane just by being nearby.

AKA my soon to be mother-in-law...

Congrats on getting married   Has your wife figured out arguing with a CO-er is an exercise in futility yet? 

Yes. She argues like Giacomo, though, but with more theatrics. We don't argue much for that reason.

  MORE animated than Giacomo...she must be Italian (not an insult, just a cultural observation from having dated a Greek Romanian who was also fluent in Italian and spoke in a similar manner...omg the temper, coming from me even lol).

I prefer the ancient viking method of solving arguments. assuming logic doesn't work, both sides get plastered and start beating the crap out of eathother until no-one can remember what we were arguing about. tends to work.  if the argument is later recalled, or brought up again, the one who won the fight was right.

I'd win, either way

No romanian, but plenty of german, irish, and native american.

[bearsarebrown]

Bought off Hatchling Phaerimm (LEoF)
Spellthief 1/Bard 1/Wizard 3/Knight of the Weave 1/Shadowcraft Mage 3/Sublime Chord 1/Ultimate Magus 10

CL 248 naked. Without Bloodlines.

Knight of the Weave and Sublime Chord both effectively double CL and add 10.

CL will drop to 239 if you take away an UM level and replace it with Tainted Scholar.

Bloodlines effectily just add 3 to every class, right? Assuming I understand them correctly the CL should be 305. Dropping one UM level for Tainted leaves you at 286.

EDIT: Ignoring the free 20CL that Phaerimm grants, with bloodlines this build still beats the most recent one while still picking up SCM and Taint. With CL 188.

[Bill Bisco: Eloquent Elf]

I'm still waiting to see a non-infinite loop that can grant 720 CL so that 1 minute/level spells can be extended to last 24 hours.

[Negative Zero]

I'm still waiting to see a non-infinite loop that can grant 720 CL so that 1 minute/level spells can be extended to last 24 hours.

Get a very high caster level Power Leech (Book of Vile Darkness) and cast it on someone, draining their Constitution while increasing yours. Repeatedly cast Restoration or something to restore their Constitution so you can get your full (let's say 200ish) caster level added to your Constitution score. Then use Suffer the Flesh (and Reserves of Strength to uncap it), adding (your constitution score minus one)/2 to your caster level. That gets us to 300ish, and a Greater Consumptive Field can get us to 450ish, assuming you aren't repeating anything to get infinite loops. Hm, not quite enough.

[KellKheraptis]

Let me get a Mind Mage with Psiotheurgy going on SCM, and we'll see where that goes.  Without even trying we got damn near 500 on the Mind Mage thread.

[Anklebite]

isn't master spellthief fun? 

especially with ultimate magus.


excellent work on cranking up the caster level even higher!  it's just getting silly at this point.  we passed 1-shotting the twice betrayer pages ago.  what else can we put this absurd caster level to use with?  damage doesn't really count any more, as a wings of flurry will one-shot must things at CL200, even if they make the save.

is there anything our reserves of strength'ed cloud of knives cannot hit? seriously, just use UM to persist a bunch of them at the start of the day, and blast all you want.  +150(+casting mod) 1d6+50 damage knives fired as free actions really mess up opponents. persist 3-5 castings, and shit gets real.


....wait a minute, did we just make a caster that out damages an ubercharger all day long? without the drawbacks?

[Bill Bisco: Eloquent Elf]

Are you claiming that you can have multiple Cloud of Knives casted and they all be able to attack?  I'm almost sure there's something denying that in the PHB