Author Topic: Character Prep Thread (Read 21861 times)

woodenbandman · « **Reply #20 on:** January 29, 2009, 02:28:48 PM »

I can do some very light debuff with my maneuvers, but my main thing will be to pull aggro and flank with any rogue types. I can also deal damage okay, I just need to be buffed by you. May I suggest Haste and anything granting an insight/morale bonus?

BowenSilverclaw · « **Reply #21 on:** January 29, 2009, 02:29:37 PM »

Like I said, Buffs will be accounted for, don't worry

EDIT: Have you decided yet on wether you're going with Power Attack or Landlord? I'm trying to work out my budget

woodenbandman · « **Reply #22 on:** January 29, 2009, 05:57:21 PM »

I'll go with both and swap out, say, dodge. I don't want Master of 9 till 14th or so level anyway.

EDIT: Are flaws allowed? For once in my life I'm not horribly feat starved. I like this feeling.

Bozwevial · « **Reply #23 on:** January 29, 2009, 06:04:07 PM »

Yeah, you can take up to two.

woodenbandman · « **Reply #24 on:** January 29, 2009, 10:04:53 PM »

BowenSilverclaw · « **Reply #25 on:** January 30, 2009, 06:49:07 AM »

Anyone else going with Landlord?

Figured I'd ask, so I know how much I have left to spend on Buff-Wands

BowenSilverclaw · « **Reply #26 on:** January 30, 2009, 05:26:56 PM »

Okay guys, help me out here.

I'm gonna have to scratch A LOT of wands from the ones currently listed.
Any suggestions on which to ditch (be it because I've got multiple wands that overlap, or because there are other party member who can do it better or whatever...)

Anyway, it's gonna have to be drastic, since I'm at something like
240 000 gp worth of wands at the moment, even with reduced crafting cost

Agita · « **Reply #27 on:** January 30, 2009, 05:52:21 PM »

*checks list* Wow. Maybe buy a few ladders and convert them into poles to finance your endeavor? On a slightly more helpful note, is Cure Critical necessary? I'd personally go with (lesser) Vigor for out-of-combat healing instead (and in-combat healing is a bad idea anyway). Other than that... I guess I'll take a look through the list if you take a look at my Cleric predicament over at CO.

BowenSilverclaw · « **Reply #28 on:** January 30, 2009, 06:01:10 PM »

Will do, thanks

Agita · « **Reply #29 on:** January 30, 2009, 06:08:04 PM »

Hmm... Warlocks get UMD and Decieve Item at 4th, so I guess if I go warlock (Yay homicidal prepubescent children!) I could take care of some of the damage wands for you (That is, give you the money you need to make them). For the healing wands, the whole party should probably contribute to them from whatever spare change they have, since the whole party also benefits from them. More ideas to come as I think of them.
EDIT: Where did you get DimDoor at lvl 2 from? I'm guessing it's some PrC list?
EDIT 2: Lesser Restoration can be gotten as a lvl 1 spell off the Paladin list. according to this thread which lists the lowest-level versions of divine spells, there seems to be a class named Nentyar Hunter that has Freedom of Movement as 3rd-level spell. Don't ask me where the class is from, though.
Also, you have a bunch of debuff and BC spells that offer saves. I think spells with saves should be best left to the Wizard (or similar, God-capable caster), since saves from wands... well, suck.
EDIT 3: Healer seems to have some lower-level healing spells, such as Restoration at 3.

woodenbandman · « **Reply #30 on:** January 30, 2009, 09:45:07 PM »

I've got loads of money, all I really need are some things that will increase my mobility. Can artificers craft things using Mysteries instead of spells, and if so, can I get a CL 6 item of Flicker at will or continually crafted by you, bowen? I'll pay for it and everything, I'm just wondering if you have the craft point reserve to handle it.

EDIT: and don't forget Haste from the Trapsmith spell list! Remember, you should be able to craft a wand at any caster level you're capable of, so a CL 4 or 5 wand of haste should be fine for us. No need to extend it.

Also, I forget what wand it is that somehow had CL 18 and granted +5 deflection bonuses to 18 creatures, but I don't really think that's necessary.

How do you get your CL up so high, by the way? I want to borrow some Greater Mighty Wallop, now. Maybe I should get a bludgeoning weapon instead of a slashing one! Hold on to taht one.

EDIT: Can Dastanas be enchanted with an enhancement bonus? If so, I might enchant some dastana, grab improved buckler use, and go to town on my AC.

EDIT3: Holy fuck, my armor ended up costing me over 30,000! It's +1 Astral Driftmetal Halfweight Mechanus Gear. It costs a fuckton, but it gives me +11 AC against incorporeal touch attacks. That's not the same as normal touch attacks, so I'm not sure it's worth the extra 12k for Astral Driftmetal. Thoughts?

Avalon� · « **Reply #31 on:** January 30, 2009, 11:01:01 PM »

I think I'll go for go binder then so that we can use all those tasty wands.

Plus we'll have plenty of support thanks to summoned critters from Zyceryll

BowenSilverclaw · « **Reply #32 on:** January 31, 2009, 07:33:16 AM »

Quote from: woodenbandman on January 30, 2009, 09:45:07 PM

I've got loads of money, all I really need are some things that will increase my mobility. Can artificers craft things using Mysteries instead of spells, and if so, can I get a CL 6 item of Flicker at will or continually crafted by you, bowen? I'll pay for it and everything, I'm just wondering if you have the craft point reserve to handle it.

Sorry, only spells...

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EDIT: and don't forget Haste from the Trapsmith spell list! Remember, you should be able to craft a wand at any caster level you're capable of, so a CL 4 or 5 wand of haste should be fine for us. No need to extend it.

True, true.

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Also, I forget what wand it is that somehow had CL 18 and granted +5 deflection bonuses to 18 creatures, but I don't really think that's necessary.

I have no idea, but I think you're right.

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How do you get your CL up so high, by the way? I want to borrow some Greater Mighty Wallop, now. Maybe I should get a bludgeoning weapon instead of a slashing one! Hold on to taht one.

CL=UMD check-10

I'll hold on to that one then

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EDIT: Can Dastanas be enchanted with an enhancement bonus? If so, I might enchant some dastana, grab improved buckler use, and go to town on my AC.

Yes they can, but only the base armor value (+1) counts towards AC, any +5 doesn't stack with other armor. You can load up on extra armor abilities like Fortification and the like though.

EDIT3: Holy fuck, my armor ended up costing me over 30,000! It's +1 Astral Driftmetal Halfweight Mechanus Gear. It costs a fuckton, but it gives me +11 AC against incorporeal touch attacks. That's not the same as normal touch attacks, so I'm not sure it's worth the extra 12k for Astral Driftmetal. Thoughts?
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Avalon� · « **Reply #33 on:** January 31, 2009, 08:34:09 AM »

Bozwevial, can we use material from Frank and K's Tome?

I think they have a link to their latest edition on the game board.

Specifically, I was wondering if I can use the Celestial Beacon (IIRC) prestige class?

I'll try to do a lancer gish with a Dragonforce vibe.

BowenSilverclaw · « **Reply #34 on:** January 31, 2009, 08:51:56 AM »

That should be EPIC!

But hey, you can do lancers pretty good within 'normal' D&D material as well (not familiar with that PrC though)

Avalon� · « **Reply #35 on:** January 31, 2009, 09:06:00 AM »

The PrC is not for the lancer part but rather for being a gish.

It has full BAB and 10/10 caster level advancement with the flavor of being something like a beacon of hope for those in the lower plains.

Btw, the link for Tome is here: Tome Pdf 0.6 Build 23

Now I'm imagining an Incarnate Dragonborne Shadow Warforged performing a diving charge off of the airship with Through the Fire and Flames playing in the background.

Bozwevial · « **Reply #36 on:** January 31, 2009, 11:14:18 AM »

Oh dear. Artificers, Tome Gishes...I may have to resort to the Tome myself to provide appropriate challenges.

Yeah, the Celestial Beacon looks okay to me. Any other Frank and K material is case-by-case.

BowenSilverclaw · « **Reply #37 on:** January 31, 2009, 11:41:07 AM »

Okay, about the Artificer thing...

Not gonna happen.

I just can't balance my budget between gear, wands and other stuff, even with super cheap Artificer-crafting...

So, probably gonna go with a ranged Gish, Fighter/Wizard or something...
Say, what do you think about Elder Evil devotion and retraining of the bonus feats that grants, Boz? I could also pay for the DCFS spells

Bozwevial · « **Reply #38 on:** January 31, 2009, 11:45:13 AM »

Go ahead, Bowen. This should be interesting...the servant of an Elder Evil, a Celestial Beacon, and a fallen aasimar, not to mention what everyone else whips up.

BowenSilverclaw · « **Reply #39 on:** January 31, 2009, 11:59:39 AM »

Thanks

Most of those bonus feats will be used for Airship things, like Landlord and Least Dragonmark (we want to be able to control the damn thing after all

).

May I make 2 requests for house rules of sorts?
1) Reflavor Elder Evil devotion to devotion to the Rock & Roll lifestyle (I am playing Lemmy after all

), no mechanical changes, but it should avoid in-party conflicts (and Lemmy may be a bastard, but he's certainly not the greatest evil to ever roam the earth

)

2) Some sort of cohort for the party, like a roadie, probably an Artificer or something, to keep the Airship running when we're not there

That's all

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