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Re: 145,744 attacks in a single action
« Reply #140 on: July 15, 2008, 09:51:26 AM »
941,488 attacks now.

That's a little over 4x Chuck's single full round attack number.

Now to beat his turn number.

One more doubling and we do it.

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Re: 145,744 attacks in a single action
« Reply #141 on: July 15, 2008, 09:56:07 AM »
I was actually trying to use Ettin and Giant Squid for 24 tentacles and a mouthpick, but there was this annoying size restriction. Then I saw the type line...

Also, Chuck's full round is over 2 million, so we need a doubling and another 50,000 or so attacks, or about 57 offhand progressions. So another six legs.

New optimisation challenge: How many legs can we have on one creature?
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Re: 145,744 attacks in a single action
« Reply #142 on: July 15, 2008, 09:57:31 AM »
I was actually trying to use Ettin and Giant Squid for 24 tentacles and a mouthpick, but there was this annoying size restriction. Then I saw the type line...

Also, Chuck's full round is over 2 million, so we need a doubling and another 50,000 or so attacks, or about 57 offhand progressions. So another six legs.

New optimisation challenge: How many legs can we have on one creature?
Well a base doubling actually turns into a quadrupling for off-hand attacks, so one more base doubling might actually do it... 216 main hand attacks... yeah you can see where this is going ;)
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Re: 145,744 attacks in a single action
« Reply #143 on: July 15, 2008, 10:02:21 AM »
And remember, we've still got 4 feats to shuffle, and BAB doesn't matter any more.

Plus, with the doubling to quadrupling to off-hands, if we found another, we could probably even stand to lose Shou/Chaos Monk (which would bring us back to a full attack action instead of a full round action) and still be in the mid 3 million range.

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Re: 145,744 attacks in a single action
« Reply #144 on: July 15, 2008, 10:09:30 AM »
Well a base doubling actually turns into a quadrupling for off-hand attacks, so one more base doubling might actually do it... 216 main hand attacks... yeah you can see where this is going ;)
Still,

IT'S OVER NINE HUNDRED THOUSAND!!!!!

On a more serious note, how many more class abilities can we steal with Illithid Savant? There are a couple of abilities that would give you an extra attack on a full attack, which converts to about eight thousand to the total per attack. It's not the doubling we're after, but it helps.
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Re: 145,744 attacks in a single action
« Reply #145 on: July 15, 2008, 10:13:02 AM »
On a more serious note, how many more class abilities can we steal with Illithid Savant? There are a couple of abilities that would give you an extra attack on a full attack, which converts to about eight thousand to the total per attack. It's not the doubling we're after, but it helps.
None right now. If we squeeze 4 more levels on, we can grab another ability and a third after all 10 IS levels.... Unless the feature doubles the number of attacks, I don't think it's worth it though, as we'd be giving something up (possibly shou disciple which hurts for only +8K)
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Re: 145,744 attacks in a single action
« Reply #146 on: July 15, 2008, 10:14:28 AM »
On a more serious note, how many more class abilities can we steal with Illithid Savant?

2 more, but each requires 3 more levels. Chaos/Shou nets us +4 base attacks for 6 levels, so if you can beat that...

Hrm... And we've still got a Fighter level... Is there maybe a Binder vestige that would give us more attacks for a level?

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Re: 145,744 attacks in a single action
« Reply #147 on: July 15, 2008, 10:16:24 AM »
Never mind. Found something else:

Fearsome Grapple (SC) - Sorc/Wiz 2, at CL 9+ it gives you four tentacles to grapple with. Ring of Spell Storing anyone?
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Re: 145,744 attacks in a single action
« Reply #148 on: July 15, 2008, 10:22:04 AM »
Niced... That's 3456 more...

And it's amazing when that doesn't seem like all that many.

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Re: 145,744 attacks in a single action
« Reply #149 on: July 15, 2008, 10:25:14 AM »
But, the Ring of Spell Storing is at minimum level to cast the spell, how do we get it up to 9th level for the 4 tentacles?

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Re: 145,744 attacks in a single action
« Reply #150 on: July 15, 2008, 10:25:39 AM »
One question though: How much damage does this thing put out per attack? Because DR 15 would probably make you completely immune to it.

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Re: 145,744 attacks in a single action
« Reply #151 on: July 15, 2008, 10:28:34 AM »
But, the Ring of Spell Storing is at minimum level to cast the spell, how do we get it up to 9th level for the 4 tentacles?
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We have a UMD check of +19
We have a cohort making us custom staves.

Why do we worry about CL 9 and Rings of Spell Storing?

@Heliomance: Pretty much. Palm Throw removes the Str bonus, so it's basically 1d4 damage.
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Re: 145,744 attacks in a single action
« Reply #152 on: July 15, 2008, 10:28:56 AM »
One question though: How much damage does this thing put out per attack? Because DR 15 would probably make you completely immune to it.
DR 15/what?
Because Shadow Striking Crescent Knives (ability from Tome of Magic) will cover any DR short of DR 15/--
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Re: 145,744 attacks in a single action
« Reply #153 on: July 15, 2008, 10:32:58 AM »
We have a UMD check of +19
We have a cohort making us custom staves.

Why do we worry about CL 9 and Rings of Spell Storing?

@Heliomance: Pretty much. Palm Throw removes the Str bonus, so it's basically 1d4 damage.

Well YOU said Ring... Staff would work too... :D

And we could always shuffle a feat into brutal throw is we actually cared about damage... Or use some other magic buff or some such, as After suggests.

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Re: 944,944
« Reply #154 on: July 15, 2008, 02:54:50 PM »
IIRC an attack that hits can never be reduced below 1 damage.  Assuming an unhittable AC and 1 damage per hit, we do about 50k damage per round.
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Re: 944,944
« Reply #155 on: July 15, 2008, 05:25:46 PM »
DR circumvents that. You don't do enough damage to overcome DR, you don't even tickle the thing.

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Re: 944,944
« Reply #156 on: July 15, 2008, 06:09:53 PM »
"If you dont do enough attacks, just get more tentacles" should be a good expression  :lol

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Re: 944,944
« Reply #157 on: July 15, 2008, 06:12:54 PM »
When in doubt, add more tentacles :P

Mmh, anyone have a name/nickname for this thing yet except for the obvious "Ctulhumon, Bane of Japanese Schoolgirls" or something similar? :P
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Re: 944,944
« Reply #158 on: July 15, 2008, 06:21:46 PM »
It needs a level of Ranger in there somewhere. Just so that it can have Favoured Enemy: Japanese Schoolgirl.

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Re: 944,944
« Reply #159 on: July 15, 2008, 06:32:26 PM »
When in doubt, add more tentacles :P

Mmh, anyone have a name/nickname for this thing yet except for the obvious "Ctulhumon, Bane of Japanese Schoolgirls" or something similar? :P
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