Lvl 35 gestalt.

[Giblets]

So a friend of mine is running a 35th lvl gestalt oneshot. This guy is the best min/maxer I know in real life, I would really like a character that might stand a chance against this guy, but unfortunately I am not on par with him. Any builds or advice on a warrior character that can deal out alot of damage and stand up to a caster would be greatly appreciated. Spell casting is okay with me but i would prefer for it to boost melee rather than take the place of it.

I have most wotc non setting books and all of the mongoose quintessential books.

Thanks in advance.
Also I know bad grammer and spelling sorry.

[Giblets]

Also my abilty scores in no important order are 18 18 18 17 16 17. He had us do 9d6 keep highest three for each score.

[DetectiveJabsco]

Druid 35/Cleric 35
extend
Persist
DMM persist
Natural Spell
Extra Turning (alot of these)
then in epic take the epic shapechangeing feats.
done.

[Bauglir]

Ok, here's the bad news. If he's really a good optimizer and he sees this as a competition, you're boned. No, really, you are. At that level, casters Win at D&D, unless there's some houserule I'm not seeing about Epic Spellcasting not existing and also ordinary spells being somehow fixed.

The good news: with such a high level and gestalt, it's trivial to put together a build with full spellcasting, full BAB, and the most necessary PrC you will ever find in Epic, the Void Incarnate. Seriously, you want that prestige class. Now, if you can talk to your DM to make sure he's not looking at this as a competition and discuss your character options, it's possible to have a melee-centric build work out, because the DM can structure things around that.

The other news: We're gonna need a lot more work put into a skeleton than just melee power in epic levels with virtually no guidelines. This kind of build takes weeks to put together, and nobody here has that kind of free time to put in. What I recommend is figuring out your own class levels, feats, and wealth, posting that, and then asking for tips to hone what you've already put together. You'll end up with a character closer to what you want to play, and we'll do less unnecessary work. Everybody wins. Plus, otherwise, you're gonna end up with links to Pun-Pun as a serious suggestion. Or Chuck, or a Hulking Hurler, or whatever other TO crap somebody thinks of. Cause they're within the scope of what you've requested.

EDIT: See that up there? That build technically does everything you asked for, but it's probably not what you had in mind.

[Giblets]

Well I had actually thought of using the hulking hurler build its not really any cheesier than the kinda stuff he comes up with, and Im pretty sure this will be competition, based on his comment about a lack of story. I had thought about maybe a thri kreen pally or barbarian. Wealth is 7.9 million. Had also thought with a pally to go with leadership, epic leadership, and legendary commander, just to use as fodder to burn up his spell slots. Sorry for not having more information, Im really in the dark here the highest level character Ive ever played is 15, thats why hes running this to give me and another player a taste of epic levels.

[Rebel7284]

Some general tips:
-Optimize initiative, if you go first, you win first.  Also become immune to surprise.
-Optimize extra actions, because when at first you fail, try try again.
-Optimize immunities, because characters at this level have options.
-Optimize spellcasting, because the above 3 are much easier to achieve with spells.

Some specific tips:
-Black Ethergaunt is a pretty good race for epic.  Phrenic Black Ethergaunt probably even better.  Although you may want to alternatively look for something with less LA and more broken class features.
-Epic Incantatrix and Epic Dweomerkeeper are both sexy as all hell.
-Factotum 11 gives extra initiative, takes a bunch of extra actions AND automatically overcomes Spell resistance and damage reduction no matter how high!
-Swiftblade 9 adds to your initiative and also gives extra actions.
-Taking 1 level of martial classes at/near 35 will allow you to pick up 9th level maneuvers due to the way they count initiator level.  Now you can fight too.
-Ardent 10 with Dominant Mantle alternate class feature can take 1 standard action per each power point.
-Ur Priest and Sublime Chord can give you lots of casting power while leaving more levels free.

[Giblets]

What book is factotum in?

[Negative Zero]

Dungeonscape.

[bearsarebrown]

Gestalt 35 makes characters so strong it's ridiculous. It's not even rocket tag, it's just... dumb.

[Giblets]

Ok so I think I have an idea for a build psion 35/ young bronze dragon 6/ ghost 5 / battledancer 20/ generic warrior 2 / swordsage 2. How does that sound, any advice on prc for psion or feats?

[Brainpiercing]

Gestalt 35 makes characters so strong it's ridiculous. It's not even rocket tag, it's just... dumb.

yup, pretty much.

In a duel it gets even dumber. Perhaps this will be at least a "challenge" competition, about who can rule the world quicker or something.

Ok so I think I have an idea for a build psion 35/ young bronze dragon 6/ ghost 5 / battledancer 20/ generic warrior 2 / swordsage 2. How does that sound, any advice on prc for psion or feats?

Can't do Shapechange = lose. You need at least something equivalently broken as Shapechange, and then some action abusers.

[duncandun]

Gestalt 35 makes characters so strong it's ridiculous. It's not even rocket tag, it's just... dumb.

agreed

maybe do an epic hood//what ever flavor of epic caster you like.

/shrug

[PhaedrusXY]

Ok so I think I have an idea for a build psion 35/ young bronze dragon 6/ ghost 5 / battledancer 20/ generic warrior 2 / swordsage 2. How does that sound, any advice on prc for psion or feats?

Can't do Shapechange = lose. You need at least something equivalently broken as Shapechange, and then some action abusers.

Greater Metamorphosis

Psionicists also have quite a few action abusers. In a duel, a well optimized one should be able to compete with everything but an extremely well optimized and paranoid wizard, IMO.

[Operation Shoestring]

If you want action abuse, 35 level gestalt lets you fit in Factotum 8, Swiftblade9, and Ruby Knight Windicator 7, while still having full psion on the other side

Factotum16/Conjurer1(Abrupt Jaunt)/Cloistered Cleric 1/Swiftblade9/Ruby Knight Vindicator 7/Iaijutsu Master 1

Psion 35 on the other side.

Win initiative (should be easy since you have INTx2 and CHA to initiative)

Cast Manifest Temporal Acceleration.  (35-11 = 24; 24/4= 6, so 7 rounds of action).

You have seven rounds in which you can make two swift actions, two standard actions *and* a full round action.... in each of those 7 rounds.

Then take the rest of round 1.  Which should be spent dancing, since you better have won by this point.

[Giblets]

Ok so im liking the idea of shoestings build, what books are conjurer, swiftblade, and rkv in?

Much thanks.

[Operation Shoestring]

Ok so im liking the idea of shoestings build, what books are conjurer, swiftblade, and rkv in?

Much thanks.

Conjurer is a wizard variant from core. The Abrupt Jaunt ACF (immediate magic) is from Complete Arcane (i think, check Comp. mage if it isn't)

Swiftblade is an online supplement.  just google it.

Ruby Knight Vindicator is from Tome of Battle.

Factotum is from Dungeonscape.

Iaijustu master is from Oriental Adventures.

The rest is SRD.

My build idea is the natural result of saying "Action Abuse at level 35" to a 339er.  Without using Planar Shepherd, anyway (but no sane DM ever allows planar shepherd, so we mostly pretend it doesn't exist).

EDIT: actually, given how little AC means at that high a level, dump the last 5 factotum levels and grab Contemplative 1 (free domain -Pride, Inquisition and Undeath rock) and Warblade 4 (Moment of Alacrity needs to be in here somewhere)

[LargePrime]

Cheater of mystra, or any cleric build with initiate of mystra feat.  Bone the caster.

If you look in my IoM artificer feat thread there is a link to a Frank Trollman post that has a build.  Not even Gestalt.

I would do the int based cleric and Artificer on the side.

[Operation Shoestring]

Cheater of mystra, or any cleric build with initiate of mystra feat.  Bone the caster.

If you look in my IoM artificer feat thread there is a link to a Frank Trollman post that has a build.  Not even Gestalt.

I would do the int based cleric and Artificer on the side.

Isn't that a casting in an AMF trick?

With epic magic, you should be able to do that anyway. You can easily get your CL past 40 at which point Epic magic automatically works in an AMF anyway, and you can use the Archmage's shape ability to leave yourself out of an AMF too, for that matter.

Bard9/Virtuoso1/Sublime chord 2/Virtuoso +20/Archmage3
(Practiced Spellcaster + Inspire Heroics, Song of Arcane power, Imbue Familiar With spell ability + Harmonic Chorus, Spell power... CL 45 by the end of that)

Just make sure your enemy's alignment is different and use the HOLY WORD instagib,

And do this all the first round by using the SLA ability of the archmage to make timestop a SLA, then take quicken SLA (SRD).

Seriously, IoM is nothing special in epic.

[The_Mad_Linguist]

Be a sharn.  Use ability rip to remove that pesty immunity to polymorph.
rock out with full sorcerer/favored soul casting that doesn't require material components.

[Tshern]

Time stop is not a valid spell for Quicken SLA, caps at sixth level spells. Dicefreaks edited the feat to advance up until 9th level spells at epic levels, but that hardly matters here.