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Re: The Uses of Lucid Dreaming
« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2011, 12:31:35 AM »
Could be represented as an Aid Other, pretty easily.

I typically check my watch to determine if I'm dreaming. *checks it* I'm not, at the moment. Definitely going to have a bracelet engraved with words or something of the sort ...
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Re: The Uses of Lucid Dreaming
« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2011, 04:11:43 AM »
Well considering it says you can just walk from one persons dream to the next I don't see why not. I'd even think having someone tell you you're dreaming should give you a bonus on the skill or wisdom check to begin lucid dreaming, something like a +2.

But wouldn't the victims projections see you as an outside object and then start to hunt you?
What if his subconciousness has been trained against intrusion?
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Re: The Uses of Lucid Dreaming
« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2011, 07:51:08 AM »
That's why you prepare for zero g combat and bluff check the girl so she kisses you.  :lol

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Re: The Uses of Lucid Dreaming
« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2011, 08:48:39 AM »
Well considering it says you can just walk from one persons dream to the next I don't see why not. I'd even think having someone tell you you're dreaming should give you a bonus on the skill or wisdom check to begin lucid dreaming, something like a +2.

But wouldn't the victims projections see you as an outside object and then start to hunt you?
What if his subconciousness has been trained against intrusion?

Well you see, that's when things get fun.  :D

Edit: As Cagemarrow pointed out.  :)

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Re: The Uses of Lucid Dreaming
« Reply #24 on: April 28, 2011, 01:49:05 AM »
aid another checks. use skill shards even.
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Re: The Uses of Lucid Dreaming
« Reply #25 on: April 29, 2011, 08:48:00 AM »
Now here's an interesting question, since you can't gain experience in a normal dream can you lose it? If not all of the divination and wish spells that cost xp for information are much more reasonably priced. :) Assuming of course you'd still know the answer when you woke up.

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Re: The Uses of Lucid Dreaming
« Reply #26 on: April 30, 2011, 12:19:46 AM »
since i've learned of Lucid Dreaming as a skill I made a character and I was pulling women into the Dream Heart and having free sex with all the hotties both forbidden and not. Srsly, I mentioned how logical it would be for the Queen to have sex dreams about her husband (or Lancelot w/e) and an Alter Self later what excuse could ever be given?

There is a thread running around here titled Porn Cannon, maybe combine the two?
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Re: The Uses of Lucid Dreaming
« Reply #27 on: April 30, 2011, 12:34:37 AM »
I was looking specifically for things I couldn't do in real life.  :p

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Re: The Uses of Lucid Dreaming
« Reply #28 on: April 30, 2011, 12:39:00 AM »
I was looking specifically for things I couldn't do in real life.  :p
Your post didn't note you were skilled in Lucid Dreaming. Congrats, it's awesome isn't it?

Listed so far is: Having sex with, killing, stealing their memories, suggesting them to follow your will.
There really isn't anything left. Maybe some mutual beneficial effect of long ranged communication but I think that was suggested too.
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Re: The Uses of Lucid Dreaming
« Reply #29 on: April 30, 2011, 12:21:04 PM »
The biggest benefit is the ability to expand the range of your ability to gather knowledge.

Signatures and document details
News from far away realms
True ambitions of powerful people
General information about the common people

Just remember that Knowledge is Power for a reason.

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Re: The Uses of Lucid Dreaming
« Reply #30 on: April 30, 2011, 12:47:14 PM »
I was looking specifically for things I couldn't do in real life.  :p
Your post didn't note you were skilled in Lucid Dreaming. Congrats, it's awesome isn't it?

Listed so far is: Acting like a creepy rapist, having sex with a willing or created person, killing, extraction, and inception.
There really isn't anything left. Maybe some mutual beneficial effect of long ranged communication but I think that was suggested too.
Fixed for you. :P

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Re: The Uses of Lucid Dreaming
« Reply #31 on: October 12, 2011, 01:44:19 AM »
Rarely do I dig these things out even when browsing, but RAW, how do you know where your target's dream is? DC15 moves you... but doesn't say where.
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Re: The Uses of Lucid Dreaming
« Reply #32 on: October 12, 2011, 01:51:54 AM »
Rarely do I dig these things out even when browsing, but RAW, how do you know where your target's dream is? DC15 moves you... but doesn't say where.
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Tiers explained in 8 sentences. With examples!
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6: Skill based. Commoner, Expert, Samurai.
5: Mundane warrior. Barbarian, Fighter, Monk.
4: Partial casters. Adapt, Hexblade, Paladin, Ranger, Spelltheif.
3: Focused casters. Bard, Beguiler, Dread Necromancer, Martial Adapts, Warmage.
2: Full casters. Favored Soul, Psion, Sorcerer, Wu Jen.
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Re: The Uses of Lucid Dreaming
« Reply #33 on: October 12, 2011, 09:05:17 AM »
Circle Dance or other divination is probably the most reliable. Scry and Die applies as always. . .

I don't know if distance means the same thing in the realm of dreams as it does in the material world. Its ultimately something you'll have to work out with your DM.

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Re: The Uses of Lucid Dreaming
« Reply #34 on: October 13, 2011, 03:30:37 AM »
Circle Dance or other divination is probably the most reliable. Scry and Die applies as always. . .

I don't know if distance means the same thing in the realm of dreams as it does in the material world. Its ultimately something you'll have to work out with your DM.

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Re: The Uses of Lucid Dreaming
« Reply #35 on: October 13, 2011, 03:49:02 AM »
Step One- Think of all traps and protections I can and SHOULD place upon my dreams.
Step Two- Tell the DM that my Factotum is taking the skill and now has 80 hours a night with which to think of how to get around puzzles or decipher puzzles.

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Re: The Uses of Lucid Dreaming
« Reply #36 on: October 13, 2011, 07:54:59 AM »
Theres the power Mindvault (level 1) also from Hyper that if used with this feat lets you do stuff while sleeping. Trouble is you don't get the benefits of rest so crappy for a psion, unless you can find a way around that.

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Re: The Uses of Lucid Dreaming
« Reply #37 on: October 13, 2011, 09:33:47 AM »
There's a thought, if you go to sleep holding a book, since you have all of your gear in the dream can you spend time reading it to gain the knowledge from it at a faster rate? Gives you a reason to fall asleep in the library. :)

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Re: The Uses of Lucid Dreaming
« Reply #38 on: October 13, 2011, 12:19:54 PM »
Step One- Think of all traps and protections I can and SHOULD place upon my dreams.
Step Two- Tell the DM that my Factotum is taking the skill and now has 80 hours a night with which to think of how to get around puzzles or decipher puzzles.

You only dream about 2 hours of the night while asleep. So you get 20 hours. Yes, dreaming about puzzles is an excellent means of deciphering them. By focusing on challenging logic / math problems I've found it often very helpful to, well, sleep on them.

There's a thought, if you go to sleep holding a book, since you have all of your gear in the dream can you spend time reading it to gain the knowledge from it at a faster rate? Gives you a reason to fall asleep in the library. :)

Problem with this - you can't read in a dream. The words shift around all weirdly.

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Re: The Uses of Lucid Dreaming
« Reply #39 on: October 13, 2011, 02:33:32 PM »
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Problem with this - you can't read in a dream. The words shift around all weirdly.

That may be true in real dreams, but since scrolls still work according to the rules its possible that normal books would as well. Of course since its not spelled out that would be a DM's call.