Learning other spell lists?

[Thistledown Thurbertaut]

Heya, so I am wondering if it is possible for one kind of caster to learn spells from another types spell lists.

Specifically is there a way that a Druid could learn Ranger spells, Cleric spells, or (less likely I imagine) arcane spells?

The context is I want to have my Druid learn Tremorsense, which is a ranger 2 spells.

Please advise, and thank you. 

[The_Mad_Linguist]

Prestige ranger?

[Thistledown Thurbertaut]

without multiclassing...

[Thistledown Thurbertaut]

Bump.

Yeah I looked at Prestige Ranger as a dip but it only advances existing spell casting class while adding ranger class features and doesn't say anything about expanding to include the ranger spell list.

Any other ways?  I know Archivists can learn spells from any divine source but again a one level dip isn't going to get me 2nd level spells in that class and it sacrifices Druid Caster levels of which my PrC has already sacrificed 2.  I can afford a max of one more class dip level before I lose 9th level spells.

Anyone?  Is there a way to learn spells from other lists without dipping? Or is this just not somethinhg that is possible in DnD?  I think in 2e a wizard could research new spells but Divine Casters don't learn spells they just know them...

[Havok4]

You could use a liberal interpretation of extra spell to pick up that one spell. That will cost you a feat though.

[X-Codes]

Bump.

Yeah I looked at Prestige Ranger as a dip but it only advances existing spell casting class while adding ranger class features and doesn't say anything about expanding to include the ranger spell list.

Any other ways?  I know Archivists can learn spells from any divine source but again a one level dip isn't going to get me 2nd level spells in that class and it sacrifices Druid Caster levels of which my PrC has already sacrificed 2.  I can afford a max of one more class dip level before I lose 9th level spells.

Anyone?  Is there a way to learn spells from other lists without dipping? Or is this just not somethinhg that is possible in DnD?  I think in 2e a wizard could research new spells but Divine Casters don't learn spells they just know them...

It's listed elsewhere on the page that when taking levels of prestige class X, you add the class' spells to your spell list (at the same time, though, I don't think you use any more favorable levels if it appears on both lists).

[Emy]

It's listed elsewhere on the page that when taking levels of prestige class X, you add the class' spells to your spell list (at the same time, though, I don't think you use any more favorable levels if it appears on both lists).

I believe it's from a sidebar in UA that was not included in the SRD.

[betrayor]

I don't think that a druid could do it....
You could of course try to UMD a scroll or even better a wand.....

Or if you had an Archivist who can learn all divine spell from all lists and most of the arcane.....

[JaronK]

The sidebar says that PrC ranger gets any Ranger only spells (but not spells Rangers share with other classes).

An easy way to do this would be to be a Kobold and use Sovereign Archtypes to add all Cleric spells to your list.  You only need the Dragonwrought feat.

JaronK

[Thistledown Thurbertaut]

Well that idea is right out.  Archivist CAn learn any spell but if I dip it I would only be able to learn any spell up to my Archivist casting level and not my Druid level right?

Also the entry requirments for PrC Ranger suck hairy goat balls. (mental image!)

[bearsarebrown]

Adding the whole list is pretty much limited to PrC Ranger. Archivist base works, so does Sovereign Archetypes. But those aren't what you're looking for.

Drake Helms from... some Eberron book. Explorer's Something? Maybe MoE. I don't remember. Anyways, they add a single spell to your spell list.
You could try adding the spell from a Domain.
You could try talking to the DM and 'researching' the spell and add it to your list at the cost of GP or Time or XP. (DM fiat but supported by text)

[Thistledown Thurbertaut]

Ok lets say I am Druid 10...then I dip Archivist and get back to Druid...am I limited to learning any Divine spell up to what the Archivist level 1 can cast or does the dip open me up to learn any spell up to my Druid CL?

No researching spells unfortunately for this game.  I need to work class or feat finagling here since the DM says that seperate spell lists are the only thing limiting tier 1 power.

[PhaedrusXY]

You're limited by your archivist level, of course. Spell lists are class abilities. They don't transfer to other classes.

[Rebel7284]

Leadership does it.

[Thistledown Thurbertaut]

By having a cohort who can cast the spell on me?  This needs to be self contained.

And yeah I've pretty much given up on the idea.  Foiled.

[PhaedrusXY]

Is it personal range? If not, you could just use a potion...

[The_Mad_Linguist]

And if it is, you could use a scroll.

[Thistledown Thurbertaut]

We are playing in dark sun, and such things are rare.  i could brew the potion I suppose but doesn;t that require me to know the spell still?

[OblivionSmurf83]

We are playing in dark sun, and such things are rare.  i could brew the potion I suppose but doesn;t that require me to know the spell still?

Since you are playing in Dark Sun, this will likely be impossible, but a one level dip in Archivist, combined with one level of Hathran, ought to do the trick. Does require FR material though, and for you to be a woman (Since your gender is already set, this might be tricky).

[Thistledown Thurbertaut]

I found a way but the DM will probably nix the idea.  Allows me to be an Archivist for the price of 1 feat!

Arcane Disciple from Complete Divine and select the spell domain to add to my list: cast anyspell/greater anyspell.

Edit: Nevermind...it only works if you are ALREADY an arcane caster.  Boo..