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Re: WotC are deleting their 3.5e web articles
« Reply #20 on: October 06, 2010, 04:55:15 AM »
There just needs to be a place that's saved everything for the poor folks who didn't get the word until it was too late.

That said, WotC seems really, really intent on alienating their fanbase.  I mean wow, they've really gotten good at it.  I'm impressed.  I wonder what they'll come up with next to lose points with their customers.
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Re: WotC are deleting their 3.5e web articles
« Reply #21 on: October 06, 2010, 05:11:44 AM »

  It's as if 3.5 players are the pariahs of WOTC ... unclean, unclean!

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Re: WotC are deleting their 3.5e web articles
« Reply #22 on: October 06, 2010, 05:13:07 AM »
Ive nabbed a bunch but I am tired and depressed so I'll try again tomorrow.  Wonder if this means the 3.5 boards will go poof now?

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Re: WotC are deleting their 3.5e web articles
« Reply #23 on: October 06, 2010, 05:47:05 AM »
Ive nabbed a bunch but I am tired and depressed so I'll try again tomorrow.  Wonder if this means the 3.5 boards will go poof now?

A lot of the 3.5 boards ALREADY went poof.  Quite a while ago.

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Re: WotC are deleting their 3.5e web articles
« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2010, 06:32:29 AM »
Ive nabbed a bunch but I am tired and depressed so I'll try again tomorrow.  Wonder if this means the 3.5 boards will go poof now?

A lot of the 3.5 boards ALREADY went poof.  Quite a while ago.

And it sucked. A lot of fun or useful threads were lost.

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Re: WotC are deleting their 3.5e web articles
« Reply #25 on: October 06, 2010, 06:39:21 AM »
Ive nabbed a bunch but I am tired and depressed so I'll try again tomorrow.  Wonder if this means the 3.5 boards will go poof now?

A lot of the 3.5 boards ALREADY went poof.  Quite a while ago.

And it sucked. A lot of fun or useful threads were lost.

That's a massive understatement.  There was a treasure trove of material there, including lots of stuff that easily could have been applied to, you guessed it, 4th edition.

But, you know, everything must go!  Punishment to the players!

Seriously, WotC seems intent on doing everything within their power to piss off their fanbase.  Legitimate ways to procure pdfs?  Gone!  A reasonable price for said pdfs?  Never there to begin with, they were more expensive than the actual books much of the time!  Lying to the customer base, such as (among MANY examples) making promises for features that will never be implemented, then deleting the preview articles that promised said features with 4e from their archives (remember the online tabletop?  And so many other things).  A strong fan community on your site?  Well, better split them up and destroy the fruits of their works!  Not just mechanics either, we'd better get rid of pure fluff boards for settings we intend to support in 4e, too.  Oh, people actually liked to read their material at some point?  Well, better start trimming that...

I could go on and on.  It's just an endless torrent of mismanagement.
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Re: WotC are deleting their 3.5e web articles
« Reply #26 on: October 06, 2010, 07:03:11 AM »
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Is it just me, or is it supremely fitting that the GitP thread is now locked?
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Re: WotC are deleting their 3.5e web articles
« Reply #27 on: October 06, 2010, 07:24:46 AM »
I guess it will be in public domain in about 80 years. I'll be then playing my truly _venerable_ dragonwrought kobold.  ;)

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Re: WotC are deleting their 3.5e web articles
« Reply #28 on: October 06, 2010, 08:54:47 AM »
There just needs to be a place that's saved everything for the poor folks who didn't get the word until it was too late.

That said, WotC seems really, really intent on alienating their fanbase.  I mean wow, they've really gotten good at it.  I'm impressed.  I wonder what they'll come up with next to lose points with their customers.

they will start to have to "Trim the Fat" from the 4th edition boards.  soon they will lock all 50o topics for it as well and then maybe the community that annoys them so much will be gone.

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Re: WotC are deleting their 3.5e web articles
« Reply #29 on: October 06, 2010, 09:27:54 AM »
That's a massive understatement.  There was a treasure trove of material there, including lots of stuff that easily could have been applied to, you guessed it, 4th edition.

But, you know, everything must go!  Punishment to the players!

Seriously, WotC seems intent on doing everything within their power to piss off their fanbase.  Legitimate ways to procure pdfs?  Gone!  A reasonable price for said pdfs?  Never there to begin with, they were more expensive than the actual books much of the time!  Lying to the customer base, such as (among MANY examples) making promises for features that will never be implemented, then deleting the preview articles that promised said features with 4e from their archives (remember the online tabletop?  And so many other things).  A strong fan community on your site?  Well, better split them up and destroy the fruits of their works!  Not just mechanics either, we'd better get rid of pure fluff boards for settings we intend to support in 4e, too.  Oh, people actually liked to read their material at some point?  Well, better start trimming that...

I could go on and on.  It's just an endless torrent of mismanagement.

Not to mention that at some point in 3.5 the books simply went down in quality.
Loads of useless stuff for regular campaigns, lots of things It would be terribly easy for the DM to make up on the fly, and loads of terribly written fluff. With only rare gold nuggets that were well thought out.

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Re: WotC are deleting their 3.5e web articles
« Reply #30 on: October 06, 2010, 02:51:21 PM »
That said, WotC seems really, really intent on alienating their fanbase.  I mean wow, they've really gotten good at it.  I'm impressed.  I wonder what they'll come up with next to lose points with their customers.
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Re: WotC are deleting their 3.5e web articles
« Reply #31 on: October 06, 2010, 02:53:49 PM »
Could you put that binder pdf up somewhere? That sound handy.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/38835505/Tome-of-Magic-Additional-Vestige-Collection-v2-1-2

Apparently, jameswilliamogle is a co-author.

I should send JWM a pm and check that he's ok with me posting it.
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Re: WotC are deleting their 3.5e web articles
« Reply #32 on: October 06, 2010, 03:23:14 PM »
That said, WotC seems really, really intent on alienating their fanbase.  I mean wow, they've really gotten good at it.  I'm impressed.  I wonder what they'll come up with next to lose points with their customers.
D&D Essentials?
Boy did THAT set the pants of some 4E fans on fire.

If I didn't know better I'd think they're trying to drive all the old fans over to Pathfinder(for the vanilla 3.5 gamer), TOME(for those who like it CO style) or World of Darkness(for the just trying to have fun lot).
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Re: WotC are deleting their 3.5e web articles
« Reply #33 on: October 06, 2010, 03:27:42 PM »
That said, WotC seems really, really intent on alienating their fanbase.  I mean wow, they've really gotten good at it.  I'm impressed.  I wonder what they'll come up with next to lose points with their customers.
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Re: WotC are deleting their 3.5e web articles
« Reply #34 on: October 06, 2010, 03:38:36 PM »
I love that comic.
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[spoiler]
Quote from: Cafiend
It is a shame stupidity isn't painful.
Quote from: StormKnight
Totally true.  Historians believe that most past civilizations would have endured for centuries longer if they had successfully determined Batman's alignment.
Quote from: Grand Theft Otto
Why are so many posts on the board the equivalent of " Dear Dr. Crotch, I keep punching myself in the crotch, and my groin hurts... what should I do? How can I make my groin stop hurting?"
Quote from: CryoSilver
I suggest carving "Don't be a dick" into him with a knife.  A dull, rusty knife.  A dull, rusty, bent, flaming knife.
Quote from: Seerow
Fluffy: It's over Steve! I've got the high ground!
Steve: You underestimate my power!
Fluffy: Don't try it, Steve!
Steve: *charges*
Fluffy: *three critical strikes*
Steve: ****
Quote from: claypigeons
I don't even stat out commoners. Commoner = corpse that just isn't a zombie. Yet.
Quote from: CryoSilver
When I think "Old Testament Boots of Peace" I think of a paladin curb-stomping an orc and screaming "Your death brings peace to this land!"
Quote from: Orville_Oaksong
Buy a small country. Or Pelor. Both are good investments.
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Re: WotC are deleting their 3.5e web articles
« Reply #35 on: October 06, 2010, 03:51:23 PM »
Could you put that binder pdf up somewhere? That sound handy.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/38835505/Tome-of-Magic-Additional-Vestige-Collection-v2-1-2

Apparently, jameswilliamogle is a co-author.

I should send JWM a pm and check that he's ok with me posting it.
I love this pdf. The only thing that it could possibly use is the Epic Vestiges.

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Re: WotC are deleting their 3.5e web articles
« Reply #36 on: October 06, 2010, 03:54:05 PM »
Could you put that binder pdf up somewhere? That sound handy.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/38835505/Tome-of-Magic-Additional-Vestige-Collection-v2-1-2

Apparently, jameswilliamogle is a co-author.

I should send JWM a pm and check that he's ok with me posting it.
Do it.  I'm just an editor for that thing, really.

AND SAVE THAT EPIC VESTIGE WEBPAGE!  CRY! (That document was written long before the Epic Vestiges were written up)
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Re: WotC are deleting their 3.5e web articles
« Reply #37 on: October 06, 2010, 03:59:38 PM »
Could you put that binder pdf up somewhere? That sound handy.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/38835505/Tome-of-Magic-Additional-Vestige-Collection-v2-1-2

Apparently, jameswilliamogle is a co-author.

I should send JWM a pm and check that he's ok with me posting it.
Do it.  I'm just an editor for that thing, really.

AND SAVE THAT EPIC VESTIGE WEBPAGE!  CRY! (That document was written long before the Epic Vestiges were written up)
Oooh, they're being sneaky. They already pulled it down but you can find a cached copy still.

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Re: WotC are deleting their 3.5e web articles
« Reply #38 on: October 06, 2010, 04:00:49 PM »
where?