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sorry guys, but all I keep seeing are bullpup gas-op .223 rifles.....
and the mini14 bullpup 25 years ago was what?
Terrific, there is a plastic housing over the entire gun, which if I recall Hollywood has been doing since before Planet of the Apes (original), like the tommyguns in Aliens.... sure they are pretty, but it's still just a bullpup gas-op 223 with a plastic VanityChassis- where is the technology difference from 25 years of them being around?
Where is the tech like RA (rocket assist, gyrojet) ammo? even the 16" iowas had RA 10" subcal shells
Or Liquid/Gaseous propellants?
Even the CaselessBlock ammo is not really common market item, and it was prototype decades ago too.
Where is the DIFFERENT technology to mark advancement, rather than same guns but the wood stock is now plastic/ Fiberglass/ CarbonFibre/ TitaniumSkeleton. That is not gun tech. Neither is putting a mp3 player on a gun.
The problem is that while we could get newer technology, unless we get something that increases the ease of killing people by a few times over, the governments are going to be too cheap to pay for it. Maybe if there was a war with competing weapon industries on each side, like WW2, we would get some new technology, but until then, I doubt anything big will happen. Unless it is some strange application of a normal technology. (like metal storm, but minus the sucking)
I think the problem is that Innovation the government doesnt find cost effective, is illegal to pursue.
Many of out greatest advancements were by common folk that wouldnt be allowed to do it again today.... the Wright Flyer is over the fed CFR14-103 250 pound limit for unregistered unlicensed, so you need federal approval just to do what the Wrights did. Dont even think of doing what Dr Gatling did, and Homeland Security would bust madam Currie for WMD.
Heck, even the Incandescent Light Buld is politically incorrect now.
The unions have made the cost of replacing Hover Dam beyond our GNP, the EPA will clobber you if you try to make Mt Rushmoore II, we agreed to a No Nukes In Space treaty that effectively bans achieving fusion/coldfusion powerd spaceships...
How do we get to the Fusion Age of space travel if fusion is globally banned in space?
Not a lot of reason to invest heavily in banned technology advancement
You can bet a lot of those tricky laws are going to be repealed or revokved. No fusion for spacecrafts in the future? Please, progress will trump congress
there are folks that ended up in Rolling Blackouts because they whined &cried till their Fission reactors were shut down.... they'd rather sit in the dark than have Fission discount, Zero Carbon Footprint electricity.
When we get every town over 50,000 running their own 400Mw Fission reactor, dropping the price of elect to zilch, then maybe we can say folks will want tech more than laws. Elecrtic cars, electric BridgeDe-Icers... heck, power the whole hiway to never get frosty ("if it saves just 1 life it is worth it" ) Run your thermostat at whatever you want, the power is almost free... and yet we dont have Pre PL6 fission commonplace. Fission Subs & Carriers, but no nuke supercargo? It is ok for the goverment to have, but we cant.
What if tomorrow we master a new magfield science to stabilize fusion, producing buildable tech 25Mw Fusion reactors the size of a 4 bedroom house.... you will have a hard time actually building them in most places- they'd rather not have tech and their laws reflect it.
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the Orion nuke pulse drive was the best concept for deepspace drives, and after 40years we still have nothing even close, not even in the same book no the less the same page as Pulse Nuke Drive. The best part was that the heavier the sip was, the more efficient the drive train became- they were talking thousands of tons of colony ship
.... and the research of 40 years ago on it is where today? Mothballed for 40 years and counting. We are no closer today than in '63, because we stopped working on a globally illegal, but super awesome, drive.
yeah fission's great, until your water starts glowing because those spent fuel rods they buried in the ground however long ago start contaminating the water. when we find somewhere to put the fuel rods *cough*reprocessing*cough* then I agree with backstabbist, go totally electric, and while we're at it, get the EPA, ATF, and CPSC to relax their rules that make innovation/invention difficult.
Red Tape Bad. Invention Good.
with a fleet of spaceships powered by orion engines, you could take all the nuclear waste on the planet and drop it into the sun. you could make regular runs to venus to suck up greenhouse gasses and deliver them to Mars. You could also make regular runs to Europa to pick up Ice and deliver it to Mars, you could set up research stations on Mars, Euopa, and Titan, and mining colonies in the asteroid belt... you could place all of Earth's heavy industry in high orbit or on the dark side of the moon, heck you could tak all of Earth's greenhouse gasses and deliver them to mars too... imagine the environmental good you could accomplish by removing mining, heavy industry and all that methane from cow farts from the Eath's surface and "outsourcing" it to space...
All of this could be done today with the same technology (and probably for the same price tag) as that of a fully loaded ballistic missile submarine. all you need is a company willing to set up shop in Somolia... hmmm
you could take all the fission waste rods, and use it as Fuel Augmentation for Orion drive ships, or set up 15% efficiency reactors on the darkside of the moon to run the streetlights
for as long as the rods are hazrdous, they can be used for some power, even in the form of warming water to keep green houses a decent temp on mars.
we could do it if they would let us.
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slightly back in the direction of the topic-
whether or not in the future we decide to break the treaty, in order to cancel the prohibition of research(testing), in order to develope a Drive that would justify breaking the treaty, it is Chicken & Egg....
...with the Chicken sitting in front of you!
It came first because I see the chicken without the egg (the Ban without the NukePulseDrive giving reason to lift the ban)
The laws are there, the research is not beng done, no Drive will be developed, no reason to lift the ban.
Sure, folks are probably developing space weapons in violation, but that is exactly that, WEAPONS not the Drive. If anything, when other countries develope & deploy weapons in space, that wont fuel Drive research by the US/Brits, but trump has been broken and the US will pour gobs into Weapons as well (making Drives a buget void)
Where are the nuke SuperContainer ships?
Where are the nuke railroads?
What % of US energy is nuke,
compared to *"burn Carbon/hydrocarbon/carbohydrate" % ?
Notice the common term in those fuels? Global warming is Topic DeJour, and the evil CO2 is catching heck from it. R&D on using "spent" rods is in the toilet, and "spent" is really far from no longer usable. Star dumping, Breaders, low output reactors... all simply not being persued. What to do with spent rods is not a problem, folks just claim the solutions dont exist because they are stopping us from developing them.
Much like putting a nuke Lightning Generator at the south pole & making O3 to patch the hole in the ozone... "we cant make ozone" I keep hearing from the envirofolk. They dont let physics or chemestry stand in the way of their opinion. Such as paying to offset your Carbon Footprint by developing Solar/Wind/Biomethane sounds great until you ask what is biomethane... oh, burning renewable methane.... uh, isnt that making CO2 ? Fight global warming by reducing carbondioxide- by making carbondioxide? They have BigAl touting it.
How can we get to the Fusion Age if we are not allowd to?
We have Fission tech, but not the FissionAge yet.... for about 40 years so far.
*coal/oil/methane/propane/cornoil/biodiesel/biomethane
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well, the WickedLaser could also raise your skin to 130 & make it feel like your clothes were on fire... well... like 2mm circle of your clothes were on fire... like that RayGun thread but smaller and less worksier
Is that a herald of PL6? a pocketsized laser Person Annoyer?
Na, we already had those before I was born, they are called spitwads
ok, so we will be at PL6 when we
1. Have Computers that can beat us at chess
2. Cure Cancer
3. Develope man portable spitwad weapons systems
4. Ban all research & developement of improved protection bodyarmors, but develope improved armors for vehicles/ships
Ah, nuclear energy production vs alternative energy. Is this topic becoming my version of backstabbists "Iowa Battleship", or am I just crazy.
JosephKell I am pretty shure that is only the case if you don't count the uranium that is currently still in the ground and available for mining. IIRC if we tap the known uranium deposites we could produce energy at our current consumption rate for a good 50 to 100 years using the current crop of "legal" reactors.
A breeder reactor can recycle its own waste and turn it into new fuel with greater than 90% efficiency. Yay republicans for banning research with breeder reactors that could extend that 50 to 100 to 500 to 1000 years of energy (not really, it will be shorter because our power consumption rates will likely increase dramatically over time). In either case, it offers greater longevity and less polution than any other consumable power source (oil, coal, the amazon rain forest, etc). It is also better than the "green" energy sources of solar or bio-fuel as each would require such vast tracts of land to satisfy our current energy needs that our ability to produce food to sustain our population would be extremely difficult.
I still say we need to cover the moon with solar panels and downlink to earth with microwave lasers. Then you not only control the worlds energy source, but you can also threaten to "miss" the recieving station.
again with the Moon Maser?
wish you would hurry up, the Colorado River aint going to reverse itself, & I aint getting younger- I cant wait for Razore to gather up his legions of shovelers
saw a thing on local station today
We should get Hydrogen Fuel cars, cause they are no emissions..... well, no emissions as long as you dont ask where the hydrogen is coming from to get put in the tank. The old USING electricity is no emissions trick, just dont mention on average we burn coal to make that electricity
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We've got French fries that are still called French fries true, and unlike NYC, your fries are still made like real fries, rather than the Wrong-Oil Psudo-Fries-Like Heathy Potato Sticks they got stuck with in New York
"Ahh, about time we got rid of that unhealthy oil..., now pass me the Ranch Dressing, I got a naked order of Cheddar Bacon Fries here."
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was Demolition Man PL6?
Didnt SandraBullock say "In the future, all restaraunts are TacoBell"
...wait, I mean when she said anything that was bad for you was banned, like real french fries.
So maybe Banning French Fries is a step toward Sociological PL6
Meaning so far we hit:
Computers beat us at chess (AI tech)
Spitwad tech weapons (military)
Food choice verboten (social)
5.7mm FN ammo (magic)
almost there, PL6 within our grasp
