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Unstopable Force vs Unmovable Object
« on: January 18, 2010, 03:26:44 AM »
What would happen if the infinite damage crusader (1d2 shuriken with aura of chaos and automatic reroll on 1's) shot a shuriken at a frenzied berserker with the deathless frenzy ability that is currently in a frenzy.

would the world explode?

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Re: Unstopable Force vs Unmovable Object
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2010, 03:30:02 AM »
the berserker would take then ignore his infinite damage, kill the other, then go attack some water untill he drown, reseting his HP to Zero.

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Re: Unstopable Force vs Unmovable Object
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2010, 03:46:23 AM »
 :lmao
the berserker would take then ignore his infinite damage, kill the other, then go attack some water untill he drown, reseting his HP to Zero.

Unless the rest of the crusaders party are in the opposite direction of the water....then the Berserker would be the one that explodes....massive damage to the Nth ftw
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Re: Unstopable Force vs Unmovable Object
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2010, 04:47:46 AM »
the berserker would decree his damage reduction 1/- to be overpowered and throw the moon into the sun

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Re: Unstopable Force vs Unmovable Object
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2010, 03:45:04 PM »
the berserker would decree his damage reduction 1/- to be overpowered and throw the moon into the sun

I don't see how that's useful :P

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Re: Unstopable Force vs Unmovable Object
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2010, 03:48:07 PM »
Same could be said of the 'zerker.
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Re: Unstopable Force vs Unmovable Object
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2010, 04:00:51 PM »
In the actual situation, an Unstoppable Force gets deflected off of an Unmovable Object. Be it over, backwards, or sideways, the force will keep moving without stopping and the object will remain unharmed.

In this case, the Crusader's damage would put the barbarian's HP at -N, where N is any number the player can think of. Unless the Barbarian drowns/suffocates to reset his HP, he will die upon his Frenzy ending.


DnD doesn't have an infinite loop clause that MtG does. If something combos infinitely, the DM is free to resolve the issue at his leisure and proceed with the game as normal.


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« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2010, 04:07:31 PM »
DnD doesn't have an infinite loop clause that MtG does. If something combos infinitely, the DM is free to resolve the issue at his leisure and proceed with the game as normal.

You're saying I can't force D&D to end in a draw by creating a loop of only mandatory actions?  :bigeye
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Re: Unstopable Force vs Unmovable Object
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2010, 04:10:39 PM »
As a Dm, I'd resolve it as the universe exploding from atom splitting :P

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Re: Unstopable Force vs Unmovable Object
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2010, 05:24:53 PM »
DnD doesn't have an infinite loop clause that MtG does. If something combos infinitely, the DM is free to resolve the issue at his leisure and proceed with the game as normal.

You're saying I can't force D&D to end in a draw by creating a loop of only mandatory actions?  :bigeye


Nope. DM wins ties.


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Re: Unstopable Force vs Unmovable Object
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2010, 06:48:25 PM »
DnD doesn't have an infinite loop clause that MtG does. If something combos infinitely, the DM is free to resolve the issue at his leisure and proceed with the game as normal.

You're saying I can't force D&D to end in a draw by creating a loop of only mandatory actions?  :bigeye


Nope. DM wins ties.
Hell, sometimes the DM wins losses, too.
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Re: Unstopable Force vs Unmovable Object
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2010, 06:49:31 PM »
DnD doesn't have an infinite loop clause that MtG does. If something combos infinitely, the DM is free to resolve the issue at his leisure and proceed with the game as normal.

You're saying I can't force D&D to end in a draw by creating a loop of only mandatory actions?  :bigeye


Nope. DM wins ties.
Hell, sometimes the DM wins losses, too.


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Re: Unstopable Force vs Unmovable Object
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2010, 07:11:21 PM »
You are teh devil. Not only did you mention the GAME, which btw, I lost, but also you linked me to TVtropes.

WHY?

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« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2010, 07:33:30 PM »
Lalalala, I can't hear you, lalalala, I've no idea what you're talking about, lalalalalala, not clicking on the link, lalalalala, not losing The Game...

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Re: Unstopable Force vs Unmovable Object
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2010, 09:19:39 PM »
You are teh devil. Not only did you mention the GAME, which btw, I lost, but also you linked me to TVtropes.

WHY?

I just spent 3 hours reading about character generation in FATAL. It was like reading someone critiquing the Bible of /b/ during a sermon. I couldn't stop laughing.


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Re: Unstopable Force vs Unmovable Object
« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2010, 09:35:21 PM »
I clicked the link, but my browser crashed. HA!

But thats even worse, making TVtropes seem interesting to lure me there. haha.

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Re: Unstopable Force vs Unmovable Object
« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2010, 02:31:09 PM »
Well, it depends:

1. Is the Crusader Chuck?

2. Is the Frenzied Berserker a Hulking Hurler?

If both, then Chuck could throw the Frenzied Hurler at the moon, but then the Hurler would just throw the moon at Chuck. But if the moon is gone, then the Frenzied Hurler is stuck in orbit and has no water to drown in.

I think it's a tie.
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Re: Unstopable Force vs Unmovable Object
« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2010, 05:35:42 PM »
Well, it depends:

1. Is the Crusader Chuck?

2. Is the Frenzied Berserker a Hulking Hurler?

If both, then Chuck could throw the Frenzied Hurler at the moon, but then the Hurler would just throw the moon at Chuck. But if the moon is gone, then the Frenzied Hurler is stuck in orbit and has no water to drown in.

I think it's a tie.

No, the chuck build has cleric spellcasting so it could just cast delay death and beastland ferocity to give him enough time to drown himself back to zero hp and heal himself with a vigor spell. While the berzerker would have to deal with the really deadly effects of the void. These are described in Elder Evils but even a frenzied berzerker would die really quick.

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Re: Unstopable Force vs Unmovable Object
« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2010, 05:38:22 PM »
Well, it depends:

1. Is the Crusader Chuck?

2. Is the Frenzied Berserker a Hulking Hurler?

If both, then Chuck could throw the Frenzied Hurler at the moon, but then the Hurler would just throw the moon at Chuck. But if the moon is gone, then the Frenzied Hurler is stuck in orbit and has no water to drown in.

I think it's a tie.
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Re: Unstopable Force vs Unmovable Object
« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2010, 06:24:09 PM »
But the frenzied hurler can use his jump check to break orbit and return to earth. There's nothing stopping him from jumping off the moon AND ALSO DRAGGING IT BACK TO EARTH.