I think I've found something stupid...

[woodenbandman]

Hmm... Persistent Divine Power? Persistent Righteous Might? You could designate a kobold rainbow warsnake with DMM as the dragon who gives you the SLA...

[Bozwevial]

I think that I'd prefer Genesis as an SLA.

Not practical, as it still takes 24 hours to cast the damn thing. A Fighter who just stands around for 24 hours is not a fighter I want in my party.

There is a fighter you'd want in your party?

On topic: What other spells could we abuse here? Celerity and its cousins are probably much more useful for a spellcaster, who can get a lot more mileage out of a single standard action/full-round action....Persistent Wraithstrike?

[woodenbandman]

^THAT is just nasty. Give it to your duskblade buddy. He can afford the 6 levels in the PrC, but late game... Any fighter would benefit of it.

[Sinfire Titan]

^THAT is just nasty. Give it to your duskblade buddy. He can afford the 6 levels in the PrC, but late game... Any fighter would benefit of it.

Duskblade 13/Dragonkith 7. Full BAB, 4th level spells, 7 HD of 4+Int modifier skills, Energy Resistance to whatever the Kobold damn well wants (since it's based off of his Breath Weapon, he has to cast a spell to give you the energy resistance), a +3 bonus to Natural Armor, 7d10 HD.


And Persistent Wraithstrike. All it cost him was 7 levels and two feats.

[woodenbandman]

Yeah, but it has the problem of being a 19 level build when it comes into full blossom. A Fighter is, of course, less powerful, but it also has less wait time until it becomes really strong. Also they have extended multiclass options.

[Sinfire Titan]

Yeah, but it has the problem of being a 19 level build when it comes into full blossom. A Fighter is, of course, less powerful, but it also has less wait time until it becomes really strong. Also they have extended multiclass options.

Well, you are a Duskblade until that time (you just have two worthless feats). It is possible to make do, but it isn't pretty.

[Caelic]

It's an interesting trick, but it seems to require jumping through a lot of hoops.  There are easier ways of getting any spell as an SLA--Runesmith comes to mind.

[Sinfire Titan]

It's an interesting trick, but it seems to require jumping through a lot of hoops.  There are easier ways of getting any spell as an SLA--Runesmith comes to mind.

Does Runesmith grant 4+Int mod skills, full BAB, and require no spellcasting to enter? If so, then it's a better trick for this idea.

[Kuroimaken]

You know what's really retarded?

The description for Jump has no mention of you EVER needing a foothold to initiate a jump. So if you can, say, jump as a swift action, you can double jump and/or air dash. Isn't D&D fun?

[woodenbandman]

Also you can jump as part of a move action, so everyone can fly by making NI jump checks every rounds as non-actions.

[The_Mad_Linguist]

Strict RAW states that you can't jump unless you're jumping across a gap or reaching a ledge or grasping something overhead.  If you're being a silly literalist, you have to go all the way.

Also you can jump as part of a move action, so everyone can fly by making NI jump checks every rounds as non-actions.

Not really.

" Distance moved by jumping is counted against your normal maximum movement in a round. "

[woodenbandman]

But you can still make as many checks as you want in a round, if you keep failing them. Obviously you can't exceed your movement speed as that would be broken 

[The_Mad_Linguist]

But you can still make as many checks as you want in a round, if you keep failing them. Obviously you can't exceed your movement speed as that would be broken 

[Kuroimaken]

Strict RAW states that you can't jump unless you're jumping across a gap or reaching a ledge or grasping something overhead.  If you're being a silly literalist, you have to go all the way.

Also you can jump as part of a move action, so everyone can fly by making NI jump checks every rounds as non-actions.

Not really.

" Distance moved by jumping is counted against your normal maximum movement in a round. "

"I imagine I'm grasping something something overhead and Jump."
"Make a Bluff check."
"I choose to voluntarily fail my Sense Motive check."
"FUCK!"

[PhaedrusXY]

"I imagine I'm grasping something something overhead and Jump."
"Make a Bluff check."
"I choose to voluntarily fail my Sense Motive check."
"FUCK!"

Sounds like a Shadowcraft Mage.

[skydragonknight]

So wouldn't it make more sense to be the Loredrake Dragonwrought Sorceror with all the Draconic Rites of Passage stuff and have this guy be your cohort?

[Bryan_0697]

^

Yes

[The_Mad_Linguist]

Strict RAW states that you can't jump unless you're jumping across a gap or reaching a ledge or grasping something overhead.  If you're being a silly literalist, you have to go all the way.

Also you can jump as part of a move action, so everyone can fly by making NI jump checks every rounds as non-actions.

Not really.

" Distance moved by jumping is counted against your normal maximum movement in a round. "

"I imagine I'm grasping something something overhead and Jump."
"Make a Bluff check."
"I choose to voluntarily fail my Sense Motive check."
"FUCK!"

"You grab what you think is a vine.  In fact, it's an imaginary venomous snake.  The placebo effect kills you."

[Kuroimaken]

Strict RAW states that you can't jump unless you're jumping across a gap or reaching a ledge or grasping something overhead.  If you're being a silly literalist, you have to go all the way.

Also you can jump as part of a move action, so everyone can fly by making NI jump checks every rounds as non-actions.

Not really.

" Distance moved by jumping is counted against your normal maximum movement in a round. "

"I imagine I'm grasping something something overhead and Jump."
"Make a Bluff check."
"I choose to voluntarily fail my Sense Motive check."
"FUCK!"

"You grab what you think is a vine.  In fact, it's an imaginary venomous snake.  The placebo effect kills you."

"I'm immune to poison."
"FUCK!"

[woodenbandman]

I was talking about long jumps. Jump 5 feet forward and you can keep climbing up for eternity.