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Is this legal by the book?
« on: October 03, 2011, 10:59:25 PM »
I know that as a DM I can make my monsters do whatever, but I want to use the book as a guideline for most things.  I took a Young Adult Pyroclastic Dragon (Draconomicon), advanced it 2HD and gave it an Elite Array setup.  The resulting CR is, supposedly, 14, but I think that's really low.  In any case, here's what I have for him.  You can probably figure out the rest except skill ranks from this:

HP: 289; HD: 21
Ability Scores: Str 35, Dex 10, Con 24, Int 16, Wis 12, Cha 18
~35k gold for magic items
Feats: Improved Initiative, Snatch, Improved Snatch, Flyby Attack, Power Attack, Multiattack, Knock-Down, Superior Initiative

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Re: Is this legal by the book?
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2011, 10:39:44 AM »
Not sure about the legality but I'd add improved fly-by-attack to get rid of those pesky AoO's
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Re: Is this legal by the book?
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2011, 02:53:29 PM »
Quote from: Sjappo on October 04, 2011, 10:39:44 AM
Not sure about the legality but I'd add improved fly-by-attack to get rid of those pesky AoO's
With a 15' reach, I'm not that concerned about AoO's.
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Re: Is this legal by the book?
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2011, 03:57:04 PM »
Quote from: X-Codes on October 04, 2011, 02:53:29 PM
Quote from: Sjappo on October 04, 2011, 10:39:44 AM
Not sure about the legality but I'd add improved fly-by-attack to get rid of those pesky AoO's
With a 15' reach, I'm not that concerned about AoO's.
Well, I'm getting used to having large PC's with reach weapons (20' reach) in my group. Still, 15' should be enough.
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Re: Is this legal by the book?
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2011, 04:01:17 PM »
touch ac?
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Re: Is this legal by the book?
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2011, 05:42:34 PM »
Quote from: altpersona on October 04, 2011, 04:01:17 PM
touch ac?
With these stats?  8.  :rollseyes

That's probably his main weakness, although he'll probably have a Ring of Blinking to help with that, and dodge in and out of sight, or into lava pools to evade attacks while his breath weapon recharges.
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Re: Is this legal by the book?
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2011, 09:41:26 PM »
The Scintillating Scales spell converts natural armor to Deflection bonus. That'll help with touch.
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Re: Is this legal by the book?
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2011, 03:28:13 PM »
Quote from: McPoyo on October 04, 2011, 09:41:26 PM
The Scintillating Scales spell converts natural armor to Deflection bonus. That'll help with touch.
I could probably justify him UMDing an (Eternal) wand of that spell.  That also takes care of 4.4k of his wealth.
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Re: Is this legal by the book?
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2011, 08:03:50 AM »
Another 4k of his wealth should probably be spent on a Ring of Counterspells (holds Shivering Touch all the frickin' time). If your players know what they're doing.
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Re: Is this legal by the book?
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2011, 11:03:26 PM »
Back on point, I'd say CR 14 looks about right.  Dragons, IMHO, are under-CR'd in general, so this one should be too.  Maybe 16 in the big scheme of things, depending on how good your players are.
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