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Re: Character Planning
« Reply #120 on: December 18, 2009, 11:53:27 PM »
Oh no, dragonmarked heir doesn't include craft as a class skill.  At least blades of orien have it.
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Re: Character Planning
« Reply #121 on: December 19, 2009, 01:17:21 AM »
Because charming folks is nasty, I'm looking at cursing them. :D

Are the majority of the cursed items in the SRD acceptable as curses? I mean the ones that have bestow curse as a prerequisite. What about the alternate curses from page 28 of the BoVD? This is so that my familiar has a touch spell to hold the charge of. Too bad it takes total concealment to disallow AoO's. Although the same miss chance applies...

Charming them... keeps them from attacking me, though they'll probably attack my friends unless I tell them not to...oohh now I see why Mindbender gets telepathy! Charm a dude and then tell him, telepathically, to stop his friends from attacking yours, and 'keep me out of it'. Sneaky. Nasty. I like it.

Invisibility... is a ring of invisibility for me, my familiar, and TML...takes TML 2 actions, but hey.
Flee the Scene... nice ability, but I can't match the other two bamf!-ers.
Voracious or Relentless Dispelling are handy...we have any other dispellers in the house? How necessary are they? Voracious lets me counterspell, so is probably the better of the two.
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Re: Character Planning
« Reply #122 on: December 19, 2009, 05:39:18 AM »
OK, my only character creation choices left are:

a) Pick between mount or expeditious retreat as my secondary least dragonmark power.  Keep in mind that I'll be able to use this as often as I want, though I fully expect Venn to slap me silly if I team up with the warlock to create an army of ponies.  Leaning toward expeditious at the moment.
b) Pretty much fixed on silent image as my single spellthief SLA, but willing to change it if someone makes a good argument.
c) Artifact???  I'm not really jonesing for anything.  Venn, I trust your judgment, just give me something setting-appropriate.

Anything I'm missing?
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Re: Character Planning
« Reply #123 on: December 19, 2009, 06:10:06 AM »
a) If you can teleport every round, why have a mount? It won't attack, IIRC. Meat wall?
b) Daddy likes the flexible wall spell, plus more, that you have there.
c) I have my custom artifact, but I don't know what a sneaky spellthief would want for christmas Traver's Day either.

Can you already SA anytime you want to TML? Invisibility grants so much tactical advantage...but three creatures in the party can already see right through it. It is a no-save power though...

I'm torn between taking Charm at 6th and mindbender at 7th, for the ability to talk silently and at least make one enemy ineffectual or worse, Curse of despair for the ability to have my familiar hold a touch spell, and Walk Unseen for the three rings of Invisibility (perhaps with baleful eye watching us... ;))

You can tell powers are relatively balanced when you can't decide between them.


I'm taking Charm+Mindbender, unless anyone has a better idea. Thoughts on spells desired in wands/eternal wands? And I have a feat to spend on my familiar; can't decide what to choose. Help?
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Re: Character Planning
« Reply #124 on: December 19, 2009, 06:33:11 AM »
I'm not so good at the sneak attacking whenever.  Meh, I guess expeditious retreat will have to do for getting SA against flatfooted enemies, followed by flanking.  My HP is high enough to tank decently.

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Re: Character Planning
« Reply #125 on: December 19, 2009, 06:51:00 AM »
My familiar is an excellent flanker, if that helps. Blink + D. Door means that he's hopefully unlikely to get hurt a lot. Giving him a Ghost Touch Necklace of Natural Weapons (2600gp, Savage Species, 58) if I'm allowed to; negates his miss chance while blinking(Edit: no dice; ghost touch only affects incorporeal targets, not ethereal targets, per SRD). His move would be 30 while blinking.
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Re: Character Planning
« Reply #126 on: December 19, 2009, 07:54:20 AM »
So, I have a +17 to knowledge Architecture and engineering from ranks, feat, masterwork tool, racial bonus and int bonus.

In addition, I'm picking up an eternal wand of ancient knowledge (magic of eberron) for an additional +5, and I'm going to mooch off draconic knowledge as well for another +6.


That brings my total bonus to +28.  


So, having never actually used the skill, what can I do by making a DC 38 check?
Use it to find weak spots in structures and then get one of the Psi-guys to Time Hop the keystone/connecting element/weak point to weaken or maybe even collapse the thing? :lol
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Re: Character Planning
« Reply #127 on: December 19, 2009, 12:52:23 PM »
So, I have a +17 to knowledge Architecture and engineering from ranks, feat, masterwork tool, racial bonus and int bonus.

In addition, I'm picking up an eternal wand of ancient knowledge (magic of eberron) for an additional +5, and I'm going to mooch off draconic knowledge as well for another +6.


That brings my total bonus to +28.  


So, having never actually used the skill, what can I do by making a DC 38 check?
Use it to find weak spots in structures and then get one of the Psi-guys to Time Hop the keystone/connecting element/weak point to weaken or maybe even collapse the thing? :lol
Brilliant! I have the time mantle, but haven't picked up Time Hop yet. It will be my next power. :P
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Re: Character Planning
« Reply #128 on: December 19, 2009, 01:01:28 PM »
So, I have a +17 to knowledge Architecture and engineering from ranks, feat, masterwork tool, racial bonus and int bonus.

In addition, I'm picking up an eternal wand of ancient knowledge (magic of eberron) for an additional +5, and I'm going to mooch off draconic knowledge as well for another +6.


That brings my total bonus to +28. 


So, having never actually used the skill, what can I do by making a DC 38 check?
Use it to find weak spots in structures and then get one of the Psi-guys to Time Hop the keystone/connecting element/weak point to weaken or maybe even collapse the thing? :lol
Brilliant! I have the time mantle, but haven't picked up Time Hop yet. It will be my next power. :P
To be honest I didn't come up with that myself, I saw it a long time ago on the old psi-boards when first getting into psionics :)
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Re: Character Planning
« Reply #129 on: December 19, 2009, 01:03:38 PM »
I can also try to find ways to make it more useful, we'll see what it can apply to.

By the way, if it were ever to come up as an issue, classes like Mindbender that aren't worth more than a 1-level dip due to poor caster progression get full (or at least improved) spellcasting levels as a fix. :)

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« Reply #130 on: December 19, 2009, 01:09:14 PM »
To be honest I didn't come up with that myself, I saw it a long time ago on the old psi-boards when first getting into psionics :)
Yeah, I've seen it before too. It's still brilliant.  :D

I can also try to find ways to make it more useful, we'll see what it can apply to.

By the way, if it were ever to come up as an issue, classes like Mindbender that aren't worth more than a 1-level dip due to poor caster progression get full (or at least improved) spellcasting levels as a fix. :)
Hooray! Someone should play a green star adept!  :P
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Re: Character Planning
« Reply #131 on: December 19, 2009, 01:18:31 PM »
To be honest I didn't come up with that myself, I saw it a long time ago on the old psi-boards when first getting into psionics :)
Yeah, I've seen it before too. It's still brilliant.  :D

Yes it is :)
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Re: Character Planning
« Reply #132 on: December 19, 2009, 02:29:34 PM »
To be honest I didn't come up with that myself, I saw it a long time ago on the old psi-boards when first getting into psionics :)
Yeah, I've seen it before too. It's still brilliant.  :D

I can also try to find ways to make it more useful, we'll see what it can apply to.

By the way, if it were ever to come up as an issue, classes like Mindbender that aren't worth more than a 1-level dip due to poor caster progression get full (or at least improved) spellcasting levels as a fix. :)
Hooray! Someone should play a green star adept!  :P

Hey, if someone wants to play a fun or flavorful class they shouldn't have to pass over it just because it sucks. :D

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Re: Character Planning
« Reply #133 on: December 19, 2009, 08:00:48 PM »
To be honest I didn't come up with that myself, I saw it a long time ago on the old psi-boards when first getting into psionics :)
Yeah, I've seen it before too. It's still brilliant.  :D

I can also try to find ways to make it more useful, we'll see what it can apply to.

By the way, if it were ever to come up as an issue, classes like Mindbender that aren't worth more than a 1-level dip due to poor caster progression get full (or at least improved) spellcasting levels as a fix. :)
Hooray! Someone should play a green star adept!  :P

Hey, if someone wants to play a fun or flavorful class they shouldn't have to pass over it just because it sucks. :D
OMG I love this new rule! Course, now I have to go a-hunting, a-hunting, a-hunting once again.

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Re: Character Planning
« Reply #134 on: December 19, 2009, 11:56:50 PM »
Hey, green star adept is actually pretty good provided you get a scroll of incarnate construct at level 10. 

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Re: Character Planning
« Reply #135 on: December 20, 2009, 12:13:39 AM »
Hey I recalled that Ghost Touch doesn't affect etherealness, so I don't get to ignore 20% miss chance of blinking blink dog...fixed an earlier post
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Re: Character Planning
« Reply #136 on: December 20, 2009, 03:34:33 PM »
Well, you could just turn it off before attacking and restart it - it's a free action, right?



Um, Venn, I thought I'd already priced it in, but apparently not.  Can I pick up an Arcane Signet Ring (ECS 122), even though it goes a little beyond my WBL?
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Re: Character Planning
« Reply #137 on: December 20, 2009, 06:33:03 PM »
Sure, we'll say it was provided as a gift for you by a diplomatic member of your house when last you visited, looking for answers as to where to move your people.

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Re: Character Planning
« Reply #138 on: December 20, 2009, 08:27:08 PM »
Well, you could just turn it off before attacking and restart it - it's a free action, right?...
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Re: Character Planning
« Reply #139 on: December 20, 2009, 10:36:08 PM »
Well, you could just turn it off before attacking and restart it - it's a free action, right?...
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By the way, with my dragonmark focus and level up I can now dimension door 40' farther than your dog.
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