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Re: Opinions on this Gestalt Wizard build? (3.5)
« Reply #40 on: September 16, 2010, 02:48:57 PM »
So... You're kind of all over the place. Now you want Spellwarp Sniper in it?

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Re: Opinions on this Gestalt Wizard build? (3.5)
« Reply #42 on: September 16, 2010, 03:30:39 PM »
At the point I'm adding spellwarp sniper, I see no point in adding more levels from either of the two prestige classes I already have.  7 / day instant metamagic from Incantatrix, 2 more class lists from Eldritch Master.  But mostly, I wouldn't really have much to spend the bonus feats from Incantatrix on.  Except maybe Improved Heighten Spell and more Improved Spell Capacity.  I'm more just wondering if that trick actually work. 

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Re: Opinions on this Gestalt Wizard build? (3.5)
« Reply #43 on: September 16, 2010, 08:43:23 PM »
So... You're kind of all over the place. Now you want Spellwarp Sniper in it?

I agree the build is going all over the place.

At the point I'm adding spellwarp sniper, I see no point in adding more levels from either of the two prestige classes I already have.  7 / day instant metamagic from Incantatrix, 2 more class lists from Eldritch Master.  But mostly, I wouldn't really have much to spend the bonus feats from Incantatrix on.

This is funny because before you were all about as many bonus feats as possible.  You are completely overlooking enhance spell.  Enhance spell increases the dice cap on a spell by 5 to 10 dice and has an adjustment of +4.  You can take the feat multiple times increase the cap.  So, skip spell sniper, get the extra feats, and use a No SR No Saving throw spell for your base attack spell (IE Orb of Force).

The level 4 base spell does 10d6.  I would go Empower/Maximize/Twin/Enhance/Enhance/Enhance.  120d6 maxed to 720 damage.  Not as much as your combo, but no SR, saving throw, or resistences (short of a force dragon) to stop the damage.

Assuming you get arcane thesis, two improved metamagics, and you incantrix cap stone it will still only be level 4.  You can add more enhances if you boost your caster level higher (earth spell with heighten and reductions from feats works).  You can also use Intensify later, but I would make sure you have at least two improved metamagic feats picked up first.  And this is all before quicken and multispell feats.

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Re: Opinions on this Gestalt Wizard build? (3.5)
« Reply #44 on: September 16, 2010, 09:30:09 PM »
Or, you know, the force ward spell which just shuts you down.
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Re: Opinions on this Gestalt Wizard build? (3.5)
« Reply #45 on: September 17, 2010, 01:10:31 AM »
Or, you know, the force ward spell which just shuts you down.

Wow reprisals across the board.  I would take my chance with forceward over Energy Immunity any day for encounters.  Not to mention there are a few more creatures with resistence or immunity to fire compaired to force.

Edit: Forceward also states it is unmoving sphere, so you enemy is not running around.  It also has a shorter duration so high level casters are not running around with energy immunity on all day and shuting you down.
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Re: Opinions on this Gestalt Wizard build? (3.5)
« Reply #46 on: September 17, 2010, 10:22:18 AM »
With the arguments i'm seeing here & at a few other places I've looked at, I think the prestige class rules are going to change.  (Helps that i'm also DMing the campaign so I can readjust rules when someone points out I'm being a moron)

so... this is a DMPC?
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Re: Opinions on this Gestalt Wizard build? (3.5)
« Reply #47 on: September 17, 2010, 12:51:41 PM »
And the least clear OP award goes too... KAIZUKOVIZARD!!!  :lmao

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Re: Opinions on this Gestalt Wizard build? (3.5)
« Reply #48 on: September 17, 2010, 04:23:18 PM »
I'm not sure if you misspelled it as a joke or on purpose....but in any case, thanks guys, I think i've got her pretty much set out.

Yes, it is a DMPC, not the greatest of things, but a good way to make sure we can actually play since it's just the two of us (Me, and my cousin)  I also focus more on buffing the BSF (Who is my cousin) so that it's not like i'm doing everything.  But if it comes down to it, I needed something good to make sure we'd survive.