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Overchannel, Ardents and CO/TO
« on: October 23, 2010, 01:35:02 PM »
I've been thinking about this lately. A human ardent or any ardent with flaws could take both Overchannel and talented at level 1- a free +1 to ML, then +2 at level 8 and finally a +3 at level 15. Since he could three power points at level 2, he could manifest 3rd level powers early. 6th level powers and up come 2 levels earlier, manifesting 9th level powers at 15th level.

Is this CO or TO?

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Re: Overchannel, Ardents and CO/TO
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2010, 01:36:26 PM »
CO. Power Link Shards make it possible too and even better. Also Magic Mantle + CL boosting shit.

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Re: Overchannel, Ardents and CO/TO
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2010, 06:07:18 PM »
Transcend Limits from Hyperconscious lets you overchannel by up to 6 levels.
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Re: Overchannel, Ardents and CO/TO
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2010, 06:32:58 PM »
iirc Tsuyo tried this once upon a time.

The problem with it, is the ML boost happens only during the manifestation.
It says: "While manifesting a power, ... "

So generically, NO is probably the best answer.
But Ardents have that sneaky no max level power thingy going on.

I'd say a Linked power could have an Overchannel help out with that kind of cheese.
Can't use Talented with it, until 2 focuses can be had.
Otherwise the damage still happens.
And this wouldn't impact the Power's Level, except for it's ML during the -festing.
You could augment it a little more.
You couldn't pick a higher level power, like a psiotheurgist build, because you aren't perpetually manifesting something.

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Re: Overchannel, Ardents and CO/TO
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2010, 10:00:46 PM »
So what if said Ardent went into Archaic Initiate and got Wild Surge?
It always seems like the barrels around here have something in them.

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Re: Overchannel, Ardents and CO/TO
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2010, 02:01:49 AM »
iirc Tsuyo tried this once upon a time.

The problem with it, is the ML boost happens only during the manifestation.
It says: "While manifesting a power, ... "

So generically, NO is probably the best answer.
But Ardents have that sneaky no max level power thingy going on.

I'd say a Linked power could have an Overchannel help out with that kind of cheese.
Can't use Talented with it, until 2 focuses can be had.
Otherwise the damage still happens.
And this wouldn't impact the Power's Level, except for it's ML during the -festing.
You could augment it a little more.
You couldn't pick a higher level power, like a psiotheurgist build, because you aren't perpetually manifesting something.

Damn fine text. Funny how something like slips by. :/

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Re: Overchannel, Ardents and CO/TO
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2010, 05:11:04 PM »
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Can't use Wilder's Wild Surge with Overchannel feat.
{{ Oh that's weird ... I couldn't copy / paste it from d20srd. Stupid computer updates !! }}
iirc - the Ai Wild Surge is the same as the Wilder's.