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Re: Introducing Hi Welcome or shoving it to beatsticks at every level.
« Reply #60 on: October 19, 2010, 03:53:27 PM »
Craven is from Champions of Ruin.

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Re: Introducing Hi Welcome or shoving it to beatsticks at every level.
« Reply #61 on: October 19, 2010, 03:53:55 PM »
Craven is in the Champions of Ruin Faerun book, or some-such.  Venomfire + the Lesser Rod of Maximize is good.  Since the build is so RAW fuzzy, anyways, might as well go for broke.

Use Extra Spell to get into a single level of Sacred Exorcist.  Then use DMM: Persistant Spell on your Druid goodies (Sirine's Grace, for example).  And stack those Nightsticks for Bite of the Werebear and that Form of the [landshark] spell.  Nothing like having a 43 Str all day long.  Might as well add Nymph's Kiss and Touch of Golden Ice.  Don't forget to put Improved Unarmed Strike on yourself and that fleshraker: you want to add iterative attacks on top of your natural attacks, particularly after pouncing.  If that's too much, just use all that on your animal companion, and use your rod of maximize spell with Control Winds (while under a Control Weather) to have maximized tornado kill everyone (well, 30 damage per round over 10 rounds... plus falling damage... whatever).  Persist Stormlord (or whatever, SpC spell), and call yourself "Stormy", while flying around; make sure to share that last one with your Dire Polar Bear.  But why stop there?  Hire a spellcaster to make an eternal wand of Persistant Wraithstrike and Heroics (Power Attack), and crossclass UMD a bit.  Might as well use Divine Power and Righteous Might, too.  These are all things I did with my Druid when the DM forced casters to multiclass (one level of Cleric + the Planning and Undeath domains, the fool).  The DM was passing out Epic items to the other party members like crazy to help them keep up.  I'll never play a Druid again.

Honestly, I don't think advancing the size really matters if you're already using a fleshraker.
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Re: Introducing Hi Welcome or shoving it to beatsticks at every level.
« Reply #62 on: October 19, 2010, 04:00:09 PM »
These are all things I did with my Druid when the DM forced casters to multiclass (one level of Cleric + the Planning and Undeath domains, the fool).  The DM was passing out Epic items to the other party members like crazy to help them keep up.  I'll never play a Druid again.
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Re: Introducing Hi Welcome or shoving it to beatsticks at every level.
« Reply #63 on: October 19, 2010, 04:25:56 PM »
Well, 3 out of 5. And you certainly can, but it most likely wouldn't help achieve the goal here by virtue of it making people whine that it is just that spell that is overpowered. This thread was also designed to show potential with as few buffs as possible. It's a given if you start throwing around Divine Favor (yes, Druids CAN get this), Nature's Avatar, Bite of the Werebear, and all the other good buff spells to get various bonus types things get even crazier.

Meh, I suppose Venomfire would be a bit stupid; it just seemed like there's a lot of stuff in the OP that's already on a similar level and it's an hour/level buff so it'll be online pretty much forever; seems like hour/levels might as well be a part of the stat block since you need 0 effort to keep them online always.

On an unrelated note, Druids actually have Nature's Favor without any tricks; that's basically Divine Favor for animals (except it's level 2 and goes up to +5 for lulz). So...yeah. Druids can get it, alright.

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Re: Introducing Hi Welcome or shoving it to beatsticks at every level.
« Reply #64 on: October 19, 2010, 05:17:15 PM »
I was actually thinking of the Cord of Favor. But even better.

Edit: Hey... Nature's Favor is a Swift action... :flame
« Last Edit: October 19, 2010, 05:19:09 PM by Sunic_Flames »
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Re: Introducing Hi Welcome or shoving it to beatsticks at every level.
« Reply #65 on: October 19, 2010, 05:23:31 PM »
I don't know that it's more dodgy than adding templates to your already overpowered AC. ;) Yeah, it requires Marital Study, or an item to grant a maneuver.
Does Marital Study require ranks in Knowledge (religion)? :p
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Re: Introducing Hi Welcome or shoving it to beatsticks at every level.
« Reply #66 on: October 19, 2010, 05:24:10 PM »
I don't know that it's more dodgy than adding templates to your already overpowered AC. ;) Yeah, it requires Marital Study, or an item to grant a maneuver.
Does Marital Study require ranks in Knowledge (religion)? :p

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Re: Introducing Hi Welcome or shoving it to beatsticks at every level.
« Reply #67 on: October 19, 2010, 05:26:09 PM »
I don't know that it's more dodgy than adding templates to your already overpowered AC. ;) Yeah, it requires Marital Study, or an item to grant a maneuver.
Does Marital Study require ranks in Knowledge (religion)? :p
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Re: Introducing Hi Welcome or shoving it to beatsticks at every level.
« Reply #68 on: October 19, 2010, 05:32:28 PM »
I don't know that it's more dodgy than adding templates to your already overpowered AC. ;) Yeah, it requires Marital Study, or an item to grant a maneuver.
Does Marital Study require ranks in Knowledge (religion)? :p
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Re: Introducing Hi Welcome or shoving it to beatsticks at every level.
« Reply #69 on: November 14, 2010, 11:07:43 PM »
If you can, give Welcome Martial Study: Shadow Jaunt/Shadow Blink/Shadow Stride, Martial Study: Assassin's Stance, and Craven.

Alternatively, give it Martial Study: Shield Block (yeah, it works) and Martial Stance: Martial Spirit.
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