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Re: How to destroy the world?
« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2010, 11:54:42 PM »
And ironically just as resistant to scientific method (though sadly more observable...) :P
Of course people are resistant to the scientific method. People are not physical phenomena, they have free will.

Did ANYONE take the philosophy of science course in college?  :debate
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Re: How to destroy the world?
« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2010, 11:55:47 PM »
And ironically just as resistant to scientific method (though sadly more observable...) :P
Of course people are resistant to the scientific method. People are not physical phenomena, they have free will.

Did ANYONE take the philosophy of science course in college?  :debate

But people don't have free will.  Every choice we make is based simultaneously on our genetic imperatives and what we have learned or intuited from past experiences.  

Did anyone take psychology in college?

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Re: How to destroy the world?
« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2010, 12:02:00 AM »
And ironically just as resistant to scientific method (though sadly more observable...) :P
Of course people are resistant to the scientific method. People are not physical phenomena, they have free will.

Did ANYONE take the philosophy of science course in college?  :debate

But people don't have free will.  Every choice we make is based simultaneously on our genetic imperatives and what we have learned or intuited from past experiences.  

Did anyone take psychology in college?

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I too have a problem reconciling free will and a deterministic universe.
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Re: How to destroy the world?
« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2010, 12:07:54 AM »
And ironically just as resistant to scientific method (though sadly more observable...) :P
Of course people are resistant to the scientific method. People are not physical phenomena, they have free will.

Did ANYONE take the philosophy of science course in college?  :debate

But people don't have free will.  Every choice we make is based simultaneously on our genetic imperatives and what we have learned or intuited from past experiences.  

Did anyone take psychology in college?

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Re: How to destroy the world?
« Reply #24 on: October 13, 2010, 12:47:48 AM »
A planet is hanging in space, where it technically weighs less than 1 lb (just put it on a small scale, and see what the scale reads), so you can paint an explosive rune on it, and set it off.

Voila.

Also, take a massive tarp into space, paint a ginormous explosive rune on it (with Explosive Spell applied), then drape it over the moon. The first person to read the rune will set it off, which will blast the entire planet away (since it affects all creatures and objects capable of seeing it once it explodes, so Explosive Spell will blow everyone and everything that doesn't make its save thousands of miles away...and unattended nonmagical objects [such as a planet] can't make saving throws).

In fact, people who can read the rune don't even get a saving throw - that only applies to 'other' individuals who aren't close enough to read the rune but are still in the radius (in other words, nobody).

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Re: How to destroy the world?
« Reply #25 on: October 13, 2010, 09:19:45 AM »
Dominate a beholder and get to work.  It's slow, but eventually it'll turn everything to atomic dust.
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Re: How to destroy the world?
« Reply #26 on: October 13, 2010, 03:29:15 PM »

Not necessarily.  I may be able to recognize that other viewpoints may have merit, without necessarily lending them my wholehearted support. 

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Re: How to destroy the world?
« Reply #27 on: October 13, 2010, 03:33:50 PM »
Elect the Republicans to office.

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Re: How to destroy the world?
« Reply #28 on: October 13, 2010, 03:37:29 PM »
1. Be a 9th Level Wizard.
2. Take the Eschew Materials feat.
3. Cast Major Creation, creating a material dense enough to form a black hole.
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5. Profit
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Re: How to destroy the world?
« Reply #29 on: October 13, 2010, 03:39:30 PM »
Elect the Republicans to office.
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Re: How to destroy the world?
« Reply #30 on: October 13, 2010, 04:28:06 PM »
And ironically just as resistant to scientific method (though sadly more observable...) :P
Of course people are resistant to the scientific method. People are not physical phenomena, they have free will.

Did ANYONE take the philosophy of science course in college?  :debate

Well, almost.

I did take the "The natural sciences conception of the world and the meaning of life" course, directly translated.

But it was all philosophy anyway. Sometimes related to natural science even. :o
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Re: How to destroy the world?
« Reply #31 on: October 13, 2010, 04:38:41 PM »
Repeated transmutations eventually altering the mass/density spin/orbit of the planet. The planet eventually gravitates closer to the sun, or other celestial body, taking over9000 AoE damage on impact.

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Re: How to destroy the world?
« Reply #32 on: October 13, 2010, 04:48:35 PM »
a d2 crusader using a dip into Bloodstorm Blade (I think that is the one that lets you turn a ranged attack into a line, if not it may be a maneuver) is probably the simplest one.

alternatively use astral projection (probably best done by a NightMare) to constantly duplicate holding bags and portable holes until you can lay them around the planet and let them all generate rifts to the astral plane.
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Re: How to destroy the world?
« Reply #33 on: October 13, 2010, 05:40:03 PM »
a d2 crusader using a dip into Bloodstorm Blade (I think that is the one that lets you turn a ranged attack into a line, if not it may be a maneuver) is probably the simplest one.

alternatively use astral projection (probably best done by a NightMare) to constantly duplicate holding bags and portable holes until you can lay them around the planet and let them all generate rifts to the astral plane.
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If a bag of holding is placed within a portable hole a rift to the Astral Plane is torn in the space: Bag and hole alike are sucked into the void and forever lost. If a portable hole is placed within a bag of holding, it opens a gate to the Astral Plane: The hole, the bag, and any creatures within a 10-foot radius are drawn there, destroying the portable hole and bag of holding in the process.
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The d2 crusader, even if it works (I believe it was disproved somewhere, but I'm too lazy to Google it out), wouldn't actually destroy the world, as the d2 crusader's attack is considered a Supertask (a task which cannot be completed).  The d2 crusader will continue rolling and rolling and rolling and his turn will never actually finish.  The game would actually require DM fiat to say, "Okay, you killed him.  Move along."

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Re: How to destroy the world?
« Reply #34 on: October 13, 2010, 05:48:18 PM »
a d2 crusader using a dip into Bloodstorm Blade (I think that is the one that lets you turn a ranged attack into a line, if not it may be a maneuver) is probably the simplest one.

alternatively use astral projection (probably best done by a NightMare) to constantly duplicate holding bags and portable holes until you can lay them around the planet and let them all generate rifts to the astral plane.
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If a bag of holding is placed within a portable hole a rift to the Astral Plane is torn in the space: Bag and hole alike are sucked into the void and forever lost. If a portable hole is placed within a bag of holding, it opens a gate to the Astral Plane: The hole, the bag, and any creatures within a 10-foot radius are drawn there, destroying the portable hole and bag of holding in the process.
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The d2 crusader, even if it works (I believe it was disproved somewhere, but I'm too lazy to Google it out), wouldn't actually destroy the world, as the d2 crusader's attack is considered a Supertask (a task which cannot be completed).  The d2 crusader will continue rolling and rolling and rolling and his turn will never actually finish.  The game would actually require DM fiat to say, "Okay, you killed him.  Move along."
Basically yes it is an infinite loop that has no exit and takes no actual game time. It doesn't mean it can't be completed only that it will have cycled an infinite number of times during that action. It is the same as the Omnificier redirecting damage back and forth an infinite number of times and then drowning himself to remove the damage. He technically can't break the cycle either. That is the problem with all infinite loops in any gaming system, they are infinite. It has been an accepted thought that you can choose to stop your action that the loop is a part of since game mechanics has no real way to exit.

Another choice would be to use an epic spell which can do whatever you want it to. You could even pull it off pre-epic if you can get into Illithed Savant as a Dragon Wrought Kobold. just eat some people for requirements and run with it.

besides we are talking about blowing up a planet, there will be some silliness involved in making that happen. With the number already discussed we could probably get a fireball or something metamagiced enough to do it too.
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Re: How to destroy the world?
« Reply #35 on: October 13, 2010, 06:37:20 PM »
Metabreath feat stacking to blanket the world in your breath weapon.

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Re: How to destroy the world?
« Reply #36 on: October 13, 2010, 06:41:17 PM »
For reference, this place provides us with real-world information on destroying the world. Now all we have to do is translate into D&D terminology!

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Re: How to destroy the world?
« Reply #37 on: October 13, 2010, 06:42:18 PM »
Become a necropolitan and cast haunt shift on the planet. It now has your hp. Kill yourself.

And there you go.
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Re: How to destroy the world?
« Reply #38 on: October 13, 2010, 06:50:05 PM »
Become a necropolitan and cast haunt shift on the planet. It now has your hp. Kill yourself.

And there you go.
Uhh... I don't think the item you possess actually gains your hit points. Does it?
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Re: How to destroy the world?
« Reply #39 on: October 13, 2010, 07:02:20 PM »
Become a necropolitan and cast haunt shift on the planet. It now has your hp. Kill yourself.

And there you go.
Uhh... I don't think the item you possess actually gains your hit points. Does it?
If it doesn't, even better. But even so, you can always PaO into something dinky (like a sandwich) and dismiss haunt shift. Then eat the sandwich.
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