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Amechra

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Re: Perfect Defense!
« Reply #20 on: September 26, 2010, 07:52:55 PM »
Damn.

Oh well, I guess I have to scrap my build that gets what is basically a 20 ft step each time they generate an AoO...
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Re: Perfect Defense!
« Reply #21 on: September 29, 2010, 04:42:03 AM »
You can still use it to break full attacks you know.
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Re: Perfect Defense!
« Reply #22 on: September 29, 2010, 04:54:07 AM »
Starmantle Cloak + Ring of Evasion still (debatable) works.

I think something like this may be possible with Psionics and that power that gives you readied actions.
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Re: Perfect Defense!
« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2010, 10:22:15 AM »
This is an old trick, but all it protects you from is full-attacks. On a 20 level scale that's a very valuable ability, because full-attacks are usually where the hurt is.

How about combining it with a defensive maneuver such as Blade Parry?
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Re: Perfect Defense!
« Reply #24 on: October 01, 2010, 12:52:07 AM »
I thought save or lose (or no save, just lose) attacks were where the hurt was.  Hmmm... could be amusing on a Swiftblade.
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Re: Perfect Defense!
« Reply #25 on: October 01, 2010, 06:00:07 AM »
Quote from: weenog on October 01, 2010, 12:52:07 AM
I thought save or lose (or no save, just lose) attacks were where the hurt was.  Hmmm... could be amusing on a Swiftblade.
Of course, yes... more hurt. Still, when old-fashioned HP damage is concerned, you don't want to be full-attacked by some monster with double your HD and BAB.
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Re: Perfect Defense!
« Reply #26 on: October 01, 2010, 11:43:11 AM »
Yeah, it's better to absorb one of the Tarrasque's attacks, than endure all 6. When fighting a Balor being able to avoid the whip, entanglement and most of the sword attacks is invaluable.
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Re: Perfect Defense!
« Reply #27 on: October 01, 2010, 08:34:05 PM »
Quote from: atewi on October 01, 2010, 11:43:11 AM
Yeah, it's better to absorb one of the Tarrasque's attacks, than endure all 6. When fighting a Balor being able to avoid the whip, entanglement and most of the sword attacks is invaluable.

Tarrasque is a bad example, I think, it's quite accurate but its damage numbers are unimpressive at that point.  A frenzied berserker ubercharger, on the other hand, that's someone whose full attack you want to avoid, if you even live through the first swing.
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Re: Perfect Defense!
« Reply #28 on: October 02, 2010, 04:01:18 AM »
I feel this has been done before with Lockdown builds.

Reach + Standstill + Combat Reflexes = Perfect Defense to approaching foes, correct? I can get 50 foot like it ain't no thang (see below).

Omega reach: Warshaper 3 (Complete Warrior, class), Permanency Enlarge Person (both PHB, spells), Inhuman Reach (Lords of Madness, feat), Deformity (tall) (Book of Vile Darkness, feat), reach weapon to double that all = 50 foot reach.

Is this a perfect defense?
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Re: Perfect Defense!
« Reply #29 on: October 03, 2010, 07:26:57 PM »
Lots of feats in that one.

Polymorph on a lockdown build beats it for simplicity :).
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