Earliest "Ikea Tarrasque"?

[dna1]

I'm asking partially so that I can stat out Saya from Blood+. She basically bleeds Trollbane, which she uses with an awesome katana to basically kill off the offspring of her sister.

It's a fun anime.

Plus, it would be neat for a character with Troll Blooded+Poison Immunity, because they could go ahead and harm themselves to make any weapon they bleed on deal non-regenerating wounds.

Oh, and you would need to be evil to be an Ikea Tarrasque; they need immunity to Vile damage, and only evil creatures have that...

you know whats funny? im watching that series atm, its pretty good 








you know whats not funny?? i didn't know deva was her sister!!!! 

hehe its ok though, i forgive you.

[Endarire]

Why is this build called "Ikea Tarrasque?"

[Amechra]

Build-it-yourself-Tarrasque.

Ikea.

You figure it out.

Oh, and I recently got to play an Ikea Tarrasque. A Troll-Blooded Warlock with a ring of Fire Resistance is immune to most things anyone who don't know what they're dealing with can throw at you.

It lead to one adorable exchange where a brigand ran me through with a sword.

"Awww, you tried to kill me. That's adorable!"

[shaikujin]

Since you are building your own, if savage species is allowed, you may be able to get it at level 1 (with 2 LA).

In savage species any regeneration ability costs 2 LA. Be it a troll's 5 (with weakness to fire and acid) or a tarrasque's 40 (with no weakness).

2 LAs can be totally bought off by level 9.

[JaronK]

Why is this build called "Ikea Tarrasque?"

It's a really cheap hard to kill thing.  Basically, the goal is to make what the tarrasque is supposed to be (an unstoppable invincible critter) with as few levels as possible so it's very low level and cheap.

JaronK

[Cagemarrow]

If you want poisonous blood per the rules a 7th level binder (5th if you have improved binding) can bind to Eurynome which makes your blood and injested poison. Does damage to things that bite or swallow you based on your binder level.

Is there a feat that allows you to change an injested poison into an injury or contact one?

[Midnight_v]

Half Black Dragon Human Barbarian with Troll Blooded and Blazing Berserker has unbeatable regeneration while raging.

Level 5.

Wouldn't this either be level 4 (with a flaw) or level 6?  It requires 3 feats (Toughness, Troll Blooded, Blazing Berserker)

off topic whats a blazing berserker?

[Ithamar]

Druid 5 / Master of Many Forms 7 - Become a war troll and you get their regeneration, then UMD Marty's Favor.  You're now immune to most stuff.

[Prime32]

off topic whats a blazing berserker?

http://www.realmshelps.org/cgi-bin/feats.pl?Blazing_Berserker

[Suzerain]

Oh, and you would need to be evil to be an Ikea Tarrasque; they need immunity to Vile damage, and only evil creatures have that...

As far as I know, nothing can make you immune against vile damage. The best you can get is damage absorption spells (there's a 9th level one from Faerun that offers a decent amount; not nearly enough for tricked-out CO-monsters, though).

I think I read people trying to work around vile damage by "being a cleric" and "being in a hallowed area" (e.g. acorn of far travel) and casting vigor on yourself ("can only be healed by a cleric in a hallowed area yadda yadda...").

[Amechra]

I've checked my copy of the BoVD; and you're right!

Though vile damage not affecting evil people makes sense, because the damage does come partially from shear evil...

[KellKheraptis]

No immunity to hellfire exists either...just sayin'.

[snakeman830]

In both Hellfire and Vile damage, both are automatically converted to nonlethal by Regeneration.

[Suzerain]

In both Hellfire and Vile damage, both are automatically converted to nonlethal by Regeneration.

You are correct! Moreover, Monte Cook says vile subdual damage from regeneration must be healed magically (see this set of questions and his answers). I re-read BoVD, and the Violate Spell Metamagic suggests that 'vile' damage is still like the source damage ('vile electricity damage' is given as an example). In the example, it also says creatures immune to electricity damage take no damage at all from a violated ... lightning bolt or something.
Following that line of thought, you are immune to vile damage by being immune to the "base" damage type. So, IKEA Tarrasque might not need to worry about vile damage at all.

I think the Dicefreaks interpretation and the one used in the Iron Siege might actually be wrong. We had contestants immune to e.g. Acid damage still take vile damage from a violated orb of acid. IF I remember correctly, that is. It might have been a corrupted spell instead and the damage type might've been "unholy"... I think Witch was the DM then though, and I don't really want to go looking for it now.

[Maat_Mons]

As far as I know, nothing can make you immune against vile damage.

Not in general, anyway.  The exalted armor special ability (Book of Exalted Deeds) negates vile damage from melee, ranged, and natural weapons. 

[JaronK]

Note that a Learnean Lumi (ECL 10) is immune to everything except (IIRC) disintegrate.  Just straight up immune.  His HP don't even matter.  Possibly also a Sphere of Annihilation.  But he's not very powerful.

JaronK

[bearsarebrown]

Note that a Learnean Lumi (ECL 10) is immune to everything except (IIRC) disintegrate.  Just straight up immune.  His HP don't even matter.  Possibly also a Sphere of Annihilation.  But he's not very powerful.

I've given this a lot of thought and I don't see it working. Learnean says that destroying the head will kill the creature right? Lumi can't be decapitated but it's head can be damaged. Am I missing something? I really want this to work.

[The_Mad_Linguist]

Note that a Learnean Lumi (ECL 10) is immune to everything except (IIRC) disintegrate.  Just straight up immune.  His HP don't even matter.  Possibly also a Sphere of Annihilation.  But he's not very powerful.

JaronK

Also: knowledge affiliation.


An otherworldly or dragonwrought ghost is flat out unkillable once you can make a DC 16 level check.  Surge of malevolence adds a +9 to any check 1/day.  Yeah, you can put one out of commission for 2d4 days, but that's hardly a major inconvienience.  ECL 7 to 9, depending on LA buyoff.  (other feats can aid the check as well, such as disciple of darkness, but you don't get them for free and they only add piddly +1 bonuses)

[Bauglir]

Note that a Learnean Lumi (ECL 10) is immune to everything except (IIRC) disintegrate.  Just straight up immune.  His HP don't even matter.  Possibly also a Sphere of Annihilation.  But he's not very powerful.

JaronK

Also: knowledge affiliation.

Is there no problem that ability can't solve/create? Also, can you knowledge affiliation somebody's knowledge affiliation?

[JaronK]

I've given this a lot of thought and I don't see it working. Learnean says that destroying the head will kill the creature right? Lumi can't be decapitated but it's head can be damaged. Am I missing something? I really want this to work.

IIRC Learnean says you have to attack the neck to damage the head.  So you just can't kill the little glowball.

JaronK