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Wha? The Killer Commoner.
« on: September 12, 2010, 08:19:46 PM »
Human Commoner 1/Survivor 5/Human Paragon 2/Commoner +13

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PB a high Int and Cha. Invest all of your skill points, except those necessary for IF and C(BW).

Destroy everything with the natural awesome of CUTTING THINGS IN HALF WITH THE CHICKENS YOU JUST PULLED OUT OF AN EMPTY BASKET!

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On a strange note, would anyone be put out if we had a post about people or events we can spare a thought for, or if its within their creed, a prayer for? Just a random thought, but ... hells I wouldn't have known about either Archangels daughter or Saeomons niece if I didn't happen to be on these threads.
Sounds fine to me.
probably over on "Off-topic".
might want to put a little disclaimer in the first post.

This is the Min/Max board. We should be able to figure out a way to optimize the POWER OF PRAYER(TM) that doesn't involve "Pazuzu, Pazuzu, Pazuzu".
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Re: Wha? The Killer Commoner.
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2010, 08:42:44 PM »
It's been done.

 :cake for effort, though.

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Re: Wha? The Killer Commoner.
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2010, 08:47:15 PM »
where is the flaw chicken infested
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Re: Wha? The Killer Commoner.
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2010, 09:12:02 PM »
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Re: Wha? The Killer Commoner.
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2010, 09:44:20 PM »
I know it's been done, I just wanted that cake.

Say... I think a Half-Elf Commoner would be awesome; I mean, it has access to both Chameleon and Elf-only stuff, so...

I don't see why everyone craps on Half-Elves, seriously.
[spoiler]Fighter: "I can kill a guy in one turn."
Cleric: "I can kill a guy in half a turn."
Wizard: "I can kill a guy before my turn."
Bard: "I can get three idiots to kill guys for me."

On a strange note, would anyone be put out if we had a post about people or events we can spare a thought for, or if its within their creed, a prayer for? Just a random thought, but ... hells I wouldn't have known about either Archangels daughter or Saeomons niece if I didn't happen to be on these threads.
Sounds fine to me.
probably over on "Off-topic".
might want to put a little disclaimer in the first post.

This is the Min/Max board. We should be able to figure out a way to optimize the POWER OF PRAYER(TM) that doesn't involve "Pazuzu, Pazuzu, Pazuzu".
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Re: Wha? The Killer Commoner.
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2010, 09:54:46 PM »
I know it's been done, I just wanted that cake.

Say... I think a Half-Elf Commoner would be awesome; I mean, it has access to both Chameleon and Elf-only stuff, so...

I don't see why everyone craps on Half-Elves, seriously.

Because their racial abilities are complete crap. Seriously, +1 to Listen, Search, and Spot checks?

Now, they rock your face in Gestalt, because you can do crazy shit like Wizard X//Half-Elf Paragon 3/Human Paragon 3, snagging +4 Int, 2 bonus feats, and you can still take the Elf Wizard sub levels. That's better than either a Human or Grey Elf Wizard can manage. But in regular play? They suck. The only thing Half-Elves are good for normally is Bards, because they can just turn Barbarians off.
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Re: Wha? The Killer Commoner.
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2010, 09:56:30 PM »
1) No bonus feat
2) No stat boosts
3) They don't actually get access to human stuff without a variant (RoD150).  The same variant gives planetouched access to that stuff, and they're better.
4) Elves are sissies
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Re: Wha? The Killer Commoner.
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2010, 10:04:44 PM »
Yeah, the core races break down basically like this:

Gnome: Best illusionist race (Stoneblessed is a stupid way to get access to Shadowcraft Mage).  Best Blade Bravo.
Human: Best at everything else.

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Re: Wha? The Killer Commoner.
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2010, 10:27:37 PM »
But Half Elves get that feat that gives them +1 to all synergy bonuses...

Alright, they are crap. But compared to, let's say, a goblin, they're at least decent.

And they aren't as annoying as kender at least...

And you can always use them as a Half-Elfalin (Goliaths with Throw Ally only.)
[spoiler]Fighter: "I can kill a guy in one turn."
Cleric: "I can kill a guy in half a turn."
Wizard: "I can kill a guy before my turn."
Bard: "I can get three idiots to kill guys for me."

On a strange note, would anyone be put out if we had a post about people or events we can spare a thought for, or if its within their creed, a prayer for? Just a random thought, but ... hells I wouldn't have known about either Archangels daughter or Saeomons niece if I didn't happen to be on these threads.
Sounds fine to me.
probably over on "Off-topic".
might want to put a little disclaimer in the first post.

This is the Min/Max board. We should be able to figure out a way to optimize the POWER OF PRAYER(TM) that doesn't involve "Pazuzu, Pazuzu, Pazuzu".
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Re: Wha? The Killer Commoner.
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2010, 10:42:36 PM »
Meh... Goblins have Darkvision and net +5 bonuses to Hide, Move Silently, and Ride checks.  They also get a net +2 bonus to ranged attacks and AC.  Those are pretty damn nice bonuses if you're going to make some kind of Rogue or Scout.

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Re: Wha? The Killer Commoner.
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2010, 11:05:53 PM »
Yes, but are they good elves?

As far as I know, Elves and Half-Elves are the only race you can optimize to be good elves, so what can that goblin do about it?

Well, he could just kick the pansy's ass, but then again the perfect elf is an Aristocrat 20//Truespeaker 20, so Mr. Wizard 20//Druid 20 Goblin is going to be in trouble...

No one can withstand the shear arrogance of an Elf! Except for a decent character, of course.
[spoiler]Fighter: "I can kill a guy in one turn."
Cleric: "I can kill a guy in half a turn."
Wizard: "I can kill a guy before my turn."
Bard: "I can get three idiots to kill guys for me."

On a strange note, would anyone be put out if we had a post about people or events we can spare a thought for, or if its within their creed, a prayer for? Just a random thought, but ... hells I wouldn't have known about either Archangels daughter or Saeomons niece if I didn't happen to be on these threads.
Sounds fine to me.
probably over on "Off-topic".
might want to put a little disclaimer in the first post.

This is the Min/Max board. We should be able to figure out a way to optimize the POWER OF PRAYER(TM) that doesn't involve "Pazuzu, Pazuzu, Pazuzu".
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Re: Wha? The Killer Commoner.
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2010, 11:28:04 PM »
Yes, but are they good elves?

As far as I know, Elves and Half-Elves are the only race you can optimize to be good elves, so what can that goblin do about it?

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Re: Wha? The Killer Commoner.
« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2010, 11:28:46 PM »
What, no zombie chickens?

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Re: Wha? The Killer Commoner.
« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2010, 11:38:17 PM »
Does anyone get Animate Undead as a 2nd level spell?
Because then we can have a Commoner 1 necromancer!

How many party roles can you cover with just a group of Commoners?
[spoiler]Fighter: "I can kill a guy in one turn."
Cleric: "I can kill a guy in half a turn."
Wizard: "I can kill a guy before my turn."
Bard: "I can get three idiots to kill guys for me."

On a strange note, would anyone be put out if we had a post about people or events we can spare a thought for, or if its within their creed, a prayer for? Just a random thought, but ... hells I wouldn't have known about either Archangels daughter or Saeomons niece if I didn't happen to be on these threads.
Sounds fine to me.
probably over on "Off-topic".
might want to put a little disclaimer in the first post.

This is the Min/Max board. We should be able to figure out a way to optimize the POWER OF PRAYER(TM) that doesn't involve "Pazuzu, Pazuzu, Pazuzu".
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Re: Wha? The Killer Commoner.
« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2010, 11:42:11 PM »
all of them?
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Re: Wha? The Killer Commoner.
« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2010, 02:40:26 AM »
Does Kensai work with chickens?

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Re: Wha? The Killer Commoner.
« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2010, 03:03:35 AM »
Meh... Goblins have Darkvision and net +5 bonuses to Hide, Move Silently, and Ride checks.  They also get a net +2 bonus to ranged attacks and AC.  Those are pretty damn nice bonuses if you're going to make some kind of Rogue or Scout.

A goblin is also one of the few races that can petrify you with a kick in the junk.
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Re: Wha? The Killer Commoner.
« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2010, 03:59:01 AM »
Does anyone get Animate Undead as a 2nd level spell?
Because then we can have a Commoner 1 necromancer!

How many party roles can you cover with just a group of Commoners?

Hmm...
Scout- One of the commoners takes the feats to bind Malphas.
Tank- All  take Wild Cohort.
Healing- One of them takes the healing aura feat.
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Re: Wha? The Killer Commoner.
« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2010, 05:22:34 PM »
Yeah, the core races break down basically like this:

Gnome: Best illusionist race (Stoneblessed is a stupid way to get access to Shadowcraft Mage).  Best Blade Bravo.
Human Kobolds: Best at everything else.
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Re: Wha? The Killer Commoner.
« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2010, 05:56:23 PM »
lol

Might want to adjust it again.  If you use the WE racial stats for Kobolds, then they make better Blade Bravos than Gnomes even.  :lol