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Re: Final Fantasy White Mage
« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2010, 10:09:24 AM »
If you're using FF1 as your baseline, here's a rough analog of the white magic spells.  They don't all correspond to the same spell level, but this is just an idea of the types of things you'd want to have.  You'd have to talk to your DM about getting some of the arcane spells on there like Invisibility, but this is a pretty close match.  Everything but Assay Spell Resistance is core.


CURE -   Cure Light Wounds
FOG  -   Obscuring Mist or Fog Cloud
HARM -   Turn Undead mechanic? Mass Cure Light Wounds (only on undead)
RUSE -   Shield of Faith or Entropic Shield?
 
ALIT -   Energy Resistance or Protection from Energy
INVS -   Invisibility
LAMP -   Remove Blindness
MUTE -   Silence
 
AFIR -   Energy Resistance or Protection from Energy
CUR2 -   Cure Moderate Wounds
HEAL -   Mass Cure Light Wounds
HRM2 -   Turn Undead mechanic? Mass Cure Moderate Wounds (only on undead)
 
AICE -   Energy Resistance or Protection from Energy
AMUT -   Dispel Magic?
FEAR -   Fear, Cause Fear, or Doom
PURE -   Neutralize Poison
 
CUR3 -   Cure Serious Wounds
HEL2 -   Mass Cure Moderate Wounds
HRM3 -   Turn Undead mechanic? Mass Cure Serious Wounds (only on undead)   
LIFE -   Raise Dead
 
EXIT -   Word of Recall
FOG2 -   Fog Cloud or Solid Fog?
INV2 -   Greater Invisibility
SOFT -   Stone to Flesh or Break Enchantment
 
ARUB -   Death Ward
CUR4 -   Heal
HEL3 -   Mass Cure Serious Wounds
HRM4 -   Turn Undead mechanic? Mass Cure Critical Wounds (only on undead)
 
FADE -   Fire Storm or Storm of Vengeance
LIF2 -   Resurrection or True Resurrection
WALL -   Greater Spell Immunity
XFER -   Assay Spell Resistance?
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Re: Final Fantasy White Mage
« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2010, 10:18:43 AM »
If only you could change Maw of Chaos to fit Good...
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Re: Final Fantasy White Mage
« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2010, 11:23:24 AM »
Well, it is Abjuration (for literally no reason) ;).
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It is a shame stupidity isn't painful.
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Totally true.  Historians believe that most past civilizations would have endured for centuries longer if they had successfully determined Batman's alignment.
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Why are so many posts on the board the equivalent of " Dear Dr. Crotch, I keep punching myself in the crotch, and my groin hurts... what should I do? How can I make my groin stop hurting?"
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I suggest carving "Don't be a dick" into him with a knife.  A dull, rusty knife.  A dull, rusty, bent, flaming knife.
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Fluffy: It's over Steve! I've got the high ground!
Steve: You underestimate my power!
Fluffy: Don't try it, Steve!
Steve: *charges*
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I don't even stat out commoners. Commoner = corpse that just isn't a zombie. Yet.
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When I think "Old Testament Boots of Peace" I think of a paladin curb-stomping an orc and screaming "Your death brings peace to this land!"
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Re: Final Fantasy White Mage
« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2010, 12:09:09 PM »
Well, it is Abjuration (for literally no reason) ;).
I don't know ... it would certainly seem to protect the hell out of things.  Who's going to attack you once you've got Maw of Chaos handy?  ;)

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Re: Final Fantasy White Mage
« Reply #24 on: August 10, 2010, 12:27:45 PM »
Well, it is Abjuration (for literally no reason) ;).
I don't know ... it would certainly seem to protect the hell out of things.  Who's going to attack you once you've got Maw of Chaos handy?  ;)
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Re: Final Fantasy White Mage
« Reply #25 on: August 10, 2010, 12:33:17 PM »
Well, it is Abjuration (for literally no reason) ;).
It's so it can hit the ethereal plane as well as the material.

Basically someone hates ghosts.
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Re: Final Fantasy White Mage
« Reply #26 on: August 10, 2010, 02:44:53 PM »
Well, it is Abjuration (for literally no reason) ;).
It's so it can hit the ethereal plane as well as the material.

Basically someone hates ghosts.
That writer was secretly out to get you and all the other Ghost Progression pimps out there.

And, by WotC's reckoning, doesn't 1 9th level spell that counters something mean it's balanced?

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Re: Final Fantasy White Mage
« Reply #27 on: August 11, 2010, 12:42:15 AM »
FOG  -   by name you would think fog, but doesn't this boost ac so something like mage armor or shield.
RUSE -   I think this fits Blur.

AMUT -  Joyful Noise
FEAR -   Fear
 
CUR3 -   Cure critical Wounds

FOG2 -   weaker version of holy star (only ac bonus and doesn't discharge).
INV2 -   greater blink.
 
ARUB -   Death Ward (Mass)
CUR4 -   Heal
HEL3 -   Mass Cure Critical Wounds
HRM4 -  Undeath to Death maybe
 
FADE/HOLY - Uncapped Consecrated or Purified Chain Lightning.
LIF2 -   True Resurrection at this level.
XFER -   Assay Spell Resistance+curse of impending blades?

I also think you should be able to add haste and slow as those also seem to move into the realm of white magic/time magic.

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Re: Final Fantasy White Mage
« Reply #28 on: August 11, 2010, 12:02:40 PM »
There was no Haste in FF1.
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Re: Final Fantasy White Mage
« Reply #29 on: August 11, 2010, 12:11:33 PM »
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Re: Final Fantasy White Mage
« Reply #30 on: August 11, 2010, 12:53:55 PM »
There was no Haste in FF1.
Yeah, but white mages have it in other FF games.
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Re: Final Fantasy White Mage
« Reply #31 on: August 11, 2010, 01:15:39 PM »
I think there was a spell/ability called FAST, but it was monster-only.
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It is a shame stupidity isn't painful.
Quote from: StormKnight
Totally true.  Historians believe that most past civilizations would have endured for centuries longer if they had successfully determined Batman's alignment.
Quote from: Grand Theft Otto
Why are so many posts on the board the equivalent of " Dear Dr. Crotch, I keep punching myself in the crotch, and my groin hurts... what should I do? How can I make my groin stop hurting?"
Quote from: CryoSilver
I suggest carving "Don't be a dick" into him with a knife.  A dull, rusty knife.  A dull, rusty, bent, flaming knife.
Quote from: Seerow
Fluffy: It's over Steve! I've got the high ground!
Steve: You underestimate my power!
Fluffy: Don't try it, Steve!
Steve: *charges*
Fluffy: *three critical strikes*
Steve: ****
Quote from: claypigeons
I don't even stat out commoners. Commoner = corpse that just isn't a zombie. Yet.
Quote from: CryoSilver
When I think "Old Testament Boots of Peace" I think of a paladin curb-stomping an orc and screaming "Your death brings peace to this land!"
Quote from: Orville_Oaksong
Buy a small country. Or Pelor. Both are good investments.
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Re: Final Fantasy White Mage
« Reply #32 on: August 11, 2010, 01:54:38 PM »
fast was a black mage spell in ff1, but moved to time/white after ff1.

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Re: Final Fantasy White Mage
« Reply #33 on: August 12, 2010, 09:47:19 AM »
I forgot black mages had it because I never used it for them. :D

I seem to remember one of the golem-types having FAST and the other having SLOW.
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Quote from: Cafiend
It is a shame stupidity isn't painful.
Quote from: StormKnight
Totally true.  Historians believe that most past civilizations would have endured for centuries longer if they had successfully determined Batman's alignment.
Quote from: Grand Theft Otto
Why are so many posts on the board the equivalent of " Dear Dr. Crotch, I keep punching myself in the crotch, and my groin hurts... what should I do? How can I make my groin stop hurting?"
Quote from: CryoSilver
I suggest carving "Don't be a dick" into him with a knife.  A dull, rusty knife.  A dull, rusty, bent, flaming knife.
Quote from: Seerow
Fluffy: It's over Steve! I've got the high ground!
Steve: You underestimate my power!
Fluffy: Don't try it, Steve!
Steve: *charges*
Fluffy: *three critical strikes*
Steve: ****
Quote from: claypigeons
I don't even stat out commoners. Commoner = corpse that just isn't a zombie. Yet.
Quote from: CryoSilver
When I think "Old Testament Boots of Peace" I think of a paladin curb-stomping an orc and screaming "Your death brings peace to this land!"
Quote from: Orville_Oaksong
Buy a small country. Or Pelor. Both are good investments.
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Re: Final Fantasy White Mage
« Reply #34 on: August 12, 2010, 07:33:49 PM »
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Re: Final Fantasy White Mage
« Reply #35 on: August 12, 2010, 08:21:54 PM »
I forgot black mages had it because I never used it for them. :D

I seem to remember one of the golem-types having FAST and the other having SLOW.

Wow, fast was my favorite spell for black mages.  Doubled the number of attacks for the fighter.

The clay golem had fast and the stone golem had both fast and slow or slo2 (which were also black mage spells I believe that never (at least for me) seemed to work).

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Any other thoughts on this matter?

How far can we go looking for spells that were given to white mages?  I only know up to VI(III).

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Re: Final Fantasy White Mage
« Reply #36 on: August 12, 2010, 08:47:04 PM »
I forgot black mages had it because I never used it for them. :D

I seem to remember one of the golem-types having FAST and the other having SLOW.

Wow, fast was my favorite spell for black mages.  Doubled the number of attacks for the fighter.

The clay golem had fast and the stone golem had both fast and slow or slo2 (which were also black mage spells I believe that never (at least for me) seemed to work).

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Any other thoughts on this matter?

How far can we go looking for spells that were given to white mages?  I only know up to VI(III).


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Quote from: Negative Zero on November 04, 2009, 02:16:14 AM
In my humble opinion, CO is haberdashery. Some say we're mad, but we can all agree we're hatters. Yes, we have potential to make very sophisticated hats, very fancy hats, be they dark or light. But the truth is that the color of the hat does not come from the group of us - our community doesn't directly produce hats. We simply give average head circumferences, list current fashion trends, and point out some shiny, obscure baubles to add to the latest hat line.

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Re: Final Fantasy White Mage
« Reply #37 on: August 12, 2010, 10:36:51 PM »
I forgot black mages had it because I never used it for them. :D

I seem to remember one of the golem-types having FAST and the other having SLOW.

Wow, fast was my favorite spell for black mages.  Doubled the number of attacks for the fighter.

The clay golem had fast and the stone golem had both fast and slow or slo2 (which were also black mage spells I believe that never (at least for me) seemed to work).

Quote
Any other thoughts on this matter?

How far can we go looking for spells that were given to white mages?  I only know up to VI(III).


Any FF is at least worth considering.

I point you to X-2 and XII.
Gendou Ikari is basically Gregory House in Kaminashades. This is FACT.

For proof, look here:

http://www.layoutjelly.com/image_27/gendo_ikari/

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Re: Final Fantasy White Mage
« Reply #38 on: August 12, 2010, 11:25:57 PM »
I forgot black mages had it because I never used it for them. :D

I seem to remember one of the golem-types having FAST and the other having SLOW.

Wow, fast was my favorite spell for black mages.  Doubled the number of attacks for the fighter.

The clay golem had fast and the stone golem had both fast and slow or slo2 (which were also black mage spells I believe that never (at least for me) seemed to work).

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Any other thoughts on this matter?

How far can we go looking for spells that were given to white mages?  I only know up to VI(III).


Any FF is at least worth considering.

I point you to X-2 and XII.

Bad games, but if they have good spells we can convince the DM!
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Quote from: Negative Zero on November 04, 2009, 02:16:14 AM
In my humble opinion, CO is haberdashery. Some say we're mad, but we can all agree we're hatters. Yes, we have potential to make very sophisticated hats, very fancy hats, be they dark or light. But the truth is that the color of the hat does not come from the group of us - our community doesn't directly produce hats. We simply give average head circumferences, list current fashion trends, and point out some shiny, obscure baubles to add to the latest hat line.