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Re: Demilich weaknesses
« Reply #80 on: August 10, 2010, 06:23:51 PM »
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Re: Demilich weaknesses
« Reply #81 on: August 10, 2010, 06:25:31 PM »
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Quote from: The_Mad_Linguist on July 27, 2009, 01:19:19 PM
A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.

Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY!
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They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.

Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.

Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
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Re: Demilich weaknesses
« Reply #82 on: August 11, 2010, 04:27:13 AM »
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Re: Demilich weaknesses
« Reply #83 on: August 11, 2010, 08:43:31 AM »
Quote from: Naldor on August 08, 2010, 04:55:48 AM
If you want poetic justice, have one of its greatest strength's be a weakness; its undead nature renders it vulnerable to turning.  I've got archived a 20 level cleric based build which can reliably turn a demi-lich.  It was from the 2004 CO contest at 339, which is now lost to board wipes, but if a character 10 levels lower can insta-kill it...

Why use turning, if you can use rebuking?
Is there an equivalent to Greater Turning?
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Re: Demilich weaknesses
« Reply #84 on: August 11, 2010, 09:12:44 AM »
Quote from: Korwin on August 11, 2010, 08:43:31 AM
Quote from: Naldor on August 08, 2010, 04:55:48 AM
If you want poetic justice, have one of its greatest strength's be a weakness; its undead nature renders it vulnerable to turning.  I've got archived a 20 level cleric based build which can reliably turn a demi-lich.  It was from the 2004 CO contest at 339, which is now lost to board wipes, but if a character 10 levels lower can insta-kill it...

Why use turning, if you can use rebuking?
Is there an equivalent to Greater Turning?
because intelligent undead get a resist check every day.
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Quote from: The_Mad_Linguist on July 27, 2009, 01:19:19 PM
A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.

Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY!
Quote from: snakeman830 on March 30, 2010, 05:19:30 PM
Quote from: McPoyo on March 30, 2010, 05:13:33 PM
They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.

Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.

Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
Best metaphor I have seen in a long time.  I give you much fu.
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Seven for the Barbarian-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Monks doomed to die,
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In the Land of Charop where the Shadows lie.
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Re: Demilich weaknesses
« Reply #85 on: August 11, 2010, 12:02:50 PM »
Quote from: McPoyo on August 11, 2010, 09:12:44 AM
Quote from: Korwin on August 11, 2010, 08:43:31 AM
Quote from: Naldor on August 08, 2010, 04:55:48 AM
If you want poetic justice, have one of its greatest strength's be a weakness; its undead nature renders it vulnerable to turning.  I've got archived a 20 level cleric based build which can reliably turn a demi-lich.  It was from the 2004 CO contest at 339, which is now lost to board wipes, but if a character 10 levels lower can insta-kill it...

Why use turning, if you can use rebuking?
Is there an equivalent to Greater Turning?
because intelligent undead get a resist check every day.
Interesting houserule.

Because that's exactly what this is: a houserule.  RAW, there is no check to resist control.  They just are controlled.
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Re: Demilich weaknesses
« Reply #86 on: August 11, 2010, 04:18:10 PM »
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http://geneticanomaly.com/RPG-Motivational/slides/dwarf.html
Sounds like a disappointing dwarf to me.
Sounds like a REAL DWARF to me.
What kind of terrible dwarf doesn't drink alcohol or live in a cave? I mean, next you'll be telling me that the dwarves have decided to go live in the trees with the elves.
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Re: Demilich weaknesses
« Reply #87 on: August 11, 2010, 06:18:57 PM »
*quietly nudges his sheet on the under-tree dwelling dwarvish race under a pile of paper...*
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Re: Demilich weaknesses
« Reply #88 on: August 11, 2010, 06:34:56 PM »
Quote from: Bozwevial on August 11, 2010, 04:18:10 PM
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http://geneticanomaly.com/RPG-Motivational/slides/dwarf.html
Sounds like a disappointing dwarf to me.
Sounds like a REAL DWARF to me.
What kind of terrible dwarf doesn't drink alcohol or live in a cave? I mean, next you'll be telling me that the dwarves have decided to go live in the trees with the elves.
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I suppose technically he's a gnome, but he looks more like a dwarf.[/spoiler]
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Re: Demilich weaknesses
« Reply #89 on: August 11, 2010, 06:44:53 PM »
Quote from: Agita on August 11, 2010, 06:34:56 PM
Quote from: Bozwevial on August 11, 2010, 04:18:10 PM
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http://geneticanomaly.com/RPG-Motivational/slides/dwarf.html
Sounds like a disappointing dwarf to me.
Sounds like a REAL DWARF to me.
What kind of terrible dwarf doesn't drink alcohol or live in a cave? I mean, next you'll be telling me that the dwarves have decided to go live in the trees with the elves.
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I suppose technically he's a gnome, but he looks more like a dwarf.[/spoiler]

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Re: Demilich weaknesses
« Reply #90 on: August 11, 2010, 06:50:38 PM »
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http://geneticanomaly.com/RPG-Motivational/slides/dwarf.html
Sounds like a disappointing dwarf to me.
Sounds like a REAL DWARF to me.
What kind of terrible dwarf doesn't drink alcohol or live in a cave? I mean, next you'll be telling me that the dwarves have decided to go live in the trees with the elves.
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I suppose technically he's a gnome, but he looks more like a dwarf.[/spoiler]

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I refuse to believe it.  Dwarves will remain drunkards, Elves will remain Arrogant and Secretive, Humans will remain Bossy, and Orcs will continue to be slaughtered by the previous three.  But since we're on the topic of breaking down stereotypes is the Demilich a former Orc?
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Re: Demilich weaknesses
« Reply #91 on: August 11, 2010, 06:53:03 PM »
Quote from: Agita on August 11, 2010, 06:34:56 PM
Quote from: Bozwevial on August 11, 2010, 04:18:10 PM
Quote from: McPoyo on August 10, 2010, 06:25:31 PM
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http://geneticanomaly.com/RPG-Motivational/slides/dwarf.html
Sounds like a disappointing dwarf to me.
Sounds like a REAL DWARF to me.
What kind of terrible dwarf doesn't drink alcohol or live in a cave? I mean, next you'll be telling me that the dwarves have decided to go live in the trees with the elves.
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I suppose technically he's a gnome, but he looks more like a dwarf.[/spoiler]

Must be 4th edition dwarves.  Look, there's no beard on the little girl.  Or maybe she's diseased, the poor dear.  :(
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Re: Demilich weaknesses
« Reply #92 on: August 11, 2010, 07:17:57 PM »
Nah, they're gnomes.  Dwarf/Elf hybrids.
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Re: Demilich weaknesses
« Reply #93 on: August 11, 2010, 07:31:36 PM »
So THAT's why they hate each other's guts!

Gnomes are too chubby for elven likes and not bearded enough for Dwarven tastes!
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Re: Demilich weaknesses
« Reply #94 on: August 11, 2010, 07:34:10 PM »
And half-elf half-humans whine about not fitting in...
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Re: Demilich weaknesses
« Reply #95 on: August 11, 2010, 07:40:16 PM »
Quote from: Kuroimaken on August 11, 2010, 07:31:36 PM
So THAT's why they hate each other's guts!

Gnomes are too chubby for elven likes and not bearded enough for Dwarven tastes!
Dwarves hate elves. 

Elves hate dwarves. 

Both hate gnomes. 

Gnomes hate gnomes.

Everyone hates gnomes.
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Re: Demilich weaknesses
« Reply #96 on: August 11, 2010, 07:54:36 PM »
Quote from: The_Mad_Linguist on August 11, 2010, 07:40:16 PM
Gnomes hate gnomes.
You just gave me an idea for an emo gnome character.
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Re: Demilich weaknesses
« Reply #97 on: August 11, 2010, 07:59:51 PM »
Quote from: Agita on August 11, 2010, 07:54:36 PM
Quote from: The_Mad_Linguist on August 11, 2010, 07:40:16 PM
Gnomes hate gnomes.
You just gave me an idea for an emo gnome character.

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Re: Demilich weaknesses
« Reply #98 on: August 11, 2010, 08:11:28 PM »
Quote from: Agita on August 11, 2010, 07:54:36 PM
Quote from: The_Mad_Linguist on August 11, 2010, 07:40:16 PM
Gnomes hate gnomes.
You just gave me an idea for an emo gnome character.

Blood Magus or Hexblade.
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Re: Demilich weaknesses
« Reply #99 on: August 11, 2010, 09:26:11 PM »
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Quote from: The_Mad_Linguist on July 27, 2009, 01:19:19 PM
A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.

Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY!
Quote from: snakeman830 on March 30, 2010, 05:19:30 PM
Quote from: McPoyo on March 30, 2010, 05:13:33 PM
They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.

Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.

Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
Best metaphor I have seen in a long time.  I give you much fu.
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Three Errata for the Mage-kings under the sky,
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