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Re: What is your favorite high ECL race?
« Reply #20 on: July 27, 2010, 04:49:18 PM »
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Re: What is your favorite high ECL race?
« Reply #21 on: July 27, 2010, 04:52:51 PM »
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Hrm... The Insectile Template specifically states that you gain no extra attacks. Are there any rules for grappling with one hand, then passing the grappled creature to a different hand?
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They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.

Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.

Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
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Re: What is your favorite high ECL race?
« Reply #22 on: July 27, 2010, 04:54:46 PM »
hmmmm  .....  :flirt .... how about Pixie ,... opps you mean above +4 LA

will reconsider ... maybe Phrenic Pixie  :smirk

 :D

Actually i said above ECL 4, pixies are ECL 5 are they not? (1 hd +4 La)

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Re: What is your favorite high ECL race?
« Reply #23 on: July 27, 2010, 04:56:08 PM »
hmmmm  .....  :flirt .... how about Pixie ,... opps you mean above +4 LA

will reconsider ... maybe Phrenic Pixie  :smirk

 :D

Actually i said above ECL 4, pixies are ECL 5 are they not? (1 hd +4 La)
Which is why he added Phrenic for another +2.
[Spoiler]
A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.

Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY!
They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.

Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.

Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
Best metaphor I have seen in a long time.  I give you much fu.
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Seven for the Barbarian-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Monks doomed to die,
One for the Wizard on his dark throne
In the Land of Charop where the Shadows lie.
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Re: What is your favorite high ECL race?
« Reply #24 on: July 27, 2010, 04:58:05 PM »
hmmmm  .....  :flirt .... how about Pixie ,... opps you mean above +4 LA

will reconsider ... maybe Phrenic Pixie  :smirk

 :D

Actually i said above ECL 4, pixies are ECL 5 are they not? (1 hd +4 La)
Which is why he added Phrenic for another +2.
But... you dont need phrenic...

This was mostly a reply for the above +4 LA bit...

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Re: What is your favorite high ECL race?
« Reply #25 on: July 27, 2010, 05:12:33 PM »
Stone Giant Natural Lycanthropy, getting Dire Bear.  14HD, +4 LA for Giant.  +3 LA for Natural, 12 HD for Dire Bear.  Total 26HD, +7LA.
+16 Str, +4 Dex, +8 Con, +2 Wis from Giant, +2 Wis for Lycanthropy, +20 Str, +2 Dex, +8 Con for Dire Bear.  Total mods: +36 Str, +6 Dex, +16 Con, +4 Wis.

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Re: What is your favorite high ECL race?
« Reply #26 on: July 27, 2010, 05:21:08 PM »
Mistling fey.

The LA is absolutely crippling, and the other abilities aren't that good, but living spells are soo cooool.  I mean, they're no great shakes in combat, but still soooo cooool.

Either that or half-red-dragon red dragon.  For the richest, deepest, red around.
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Re: What is your favorite high ECL race?
« Reply #27 on: July 27, 2010, 05:23:41 PM »
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Re: What is your favorite high ECL race?
« Reply #28 on: July 27, 2010, 05:50:44 PM »
Stone Giant Natural Lycanthropy, getting Dire Bear.  14HD, +4 LA for Giant.  +3 LA for Natural, 12 HD for Dire Bear.  Total 26HD, +7LA.
+16 Str, +4 Dex, +8 Con, +2 Wis from Giant, +2 Wis for Lycanthropy, +20 Str, +2 Dex, +8 Con for Dire Bear.  Total mods: +36 Str, +6 Dex, +16 Con, +4 Wis.

Does that work?

well yes but an ECL 33 character is going to need more than Str to compete, it is cool though.

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Re: What is your favorite high ECL race?
« Reply #29 on: July 27, 2010, 06:04:21 PM »
I'm partial to things that aren't what they appear to be. Yak folk, Ogre Mage, and Hengeyoki Unholy Scion. Yak folk are just fun. "Should I put on my giant pants or the elf frock?"

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Re: What is your favorite high ECL race?
« Reply #30 on: July 27, 2010, 06:11:12 PM »
Stone Giant Natural Lycanthropy, getting Dire Bear.  14HD, +4 LA for Giant.  +3 LA for Natural, 12 HD for Dire Bear.  Total 26HD, +7LA.
+16 Str, +4 Dex, +8 Con, +2 Wis from Giant, +2 Wis for Lycanthropy, +20 Str, +2 Dex, +8 Con for Dire Bear.  Total mods: +36 Str, +6 Dex, +16 Con, +4 Wis.

Does that work?

well yes but an ECL 33 character is going to need more than Str to compete, it is cool though.

You get bear arms though :P  A more sane version would be something with Powerful Build and a Large Lycnthropy (like an ape, Horses and Camels are 3HD but I can't quite imagine them making sense.).  Then you'd be +7 for a Natural Ape, +5 if you were an Afflicted Camel.
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Re: What is your favorite high ECL race?
« Reply #31 on: July 27, 2010, 06:13:02 PM »
Stone Giant Natural Lycanthropy, getting Dire Bear.  14HD, +4 LA for Giant.  +3 LA for Natural, 12 HD for Dire Bear.  Total 26HD, +7LA.
+16 Str, +4 Dex, +8 Con, +2 Wis from Giant, +2 Wis for Lycanthropy, +20 Str, +2 Dex, +8 Con for Dire Bear.  Total mods: +36 Str, +6 Dex, +16 Con, +4 Wis.

Does that work?

well yes but an ECL 33 character is going to need more than Str to compete, it is cool though.

You get bear arms though :P  A more sane version would be something with Powerful Build and a Large Lycnthropy (like an ape, Horses and Camels are 3HD but I can't quite imagine them making sense.).  Then you'd be +7 for a Natural Ape, +5 if you were an Afflicted Camel.
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A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.

Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY!
They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.

Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.

Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
Best metaphor I have seen in a long time.  I give you much fu.
Three Errata for the Mage-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Barbarian-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Monks doomed to die,
One for the Wizard on his dark throne
In the Land of Charop where the Shadows lie.
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Re: What is your favorite high ECL race?
« Reply #32 on: July 27, 2010, 06:15:07 PM »
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Re: What is your favorite high ECL race?
« Reply #33 on: July 27, 2010, 06:16:50 PM »
Stone Giant Natural Lycanthropy, getting Dire Bear.  14HD, +4 LA for Giant.  +3 LA for Natural, 12 HD for Dire Bear.  Total 26HD, +7LA.
+16 Str, +4 Dex, +8 Con, +2 Wis from Giant, +2 Wis for Lycanthropy, +20 Str, +2 Dex, +8 Con for Dire Bear.  Total mods: +36 Str, +6 Dex, +16 Con, +4 Wis.

Does that work?

well yes but an ECL 33 character is going to need more than Str to compete, it is cool though.

You get bear arms though :P  A more sane version would be something with Powerful Build and a Large Lycnthropy (like an ape, Horses and Camels are 3HD but I can't quite imagine them making sense.).  Then you'd be +7 for a Natural Ape, +5 if you were an Afflicted Camel.
I have always been fond of weretiger for lycanthropes, 6hd but pounce and rake are nice(along with that PRC that gets your animal abilities while in hybrid)

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Re: What is your favorite high ECL race?
« Reply #34 on: July 27, 2010, 08:20:11 PM »
Tsuyo's interpretation of the Shaedling = you always have the Material Component for spells
What ... that's it  :rollseyes ??


Succubus as mentioned, especially if you can do a race rebuild into it or similar trickery.
Succubus 1 gets Cha +6, along with the extra goodies and outside stuff. Playable right away.


iirc - the Midgard Dwarf (or something like that) can make much higher level Magic Items.
Battlesmith PrC + the DwarfX Moi PrC (getting hazy) = more higher level Magic Items.

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Re: What is your favorite high ECL race?
« Reply #35 on: July 27, 2010, 08:50:58 PM »
Paragon.... besides LA what's not to like
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Re: What is your favorite high ECL race?
« Reply #36 on: July 27, 2010, 09:00:27 PM »
Paragon.... besides LA what's not to like
Paragon isn't high LA, it has no LA and is thus not eligible for PCs.
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Re: What is your favorite high ECL race?
« Reply #37 on: July 27, 2010, 09:28:37 PM »
Arrow Demon :D
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Re: What is your favorite high ECL race?
« Reply #38 on: July 28, 2010, 12:12:00 AM »
Glouria.  So pretty that it can't be hurt.  ^_^
Eh, the wizard have more money than them combined, he could in theory just use all his money on a fleet of trained attack mules, but then we aren't playing 3.5 but zergling rushing in Starcraft instead.

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Re: What is your favorite high ECL race?
« Reply #39 on: July 28, 2010, 12:14:37 AM »
Glouria.  So pretty that it can't be hurt.  ^_^
Nymph is good like that too... gotta love Unearthly Grace.