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Re: What spells and abilities radically change how the game is played?
« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2010, 05:16:48 PM »
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Re: What spells and abilities radically change how the game is played?
« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2010, 09:37:36 PM »
Quote from: Solo on July 17, 2010, 05:09:41 PM
Quote from: veekie on July 17, 2010, 05:07:49 PM
Find the City.
Never find civilization again!
Among other things.
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Quote from: The_Mad_Linguist on July 27, 2009, 01:19:19 PM
A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.

Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY!
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They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.

Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.

Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
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Re: What spells and abilities radically change how the game is played?
« Reply #22 on: July 17, 2010, 09:47:01 PM »
Quote from: McPoyo on July 17, 2010, 09:37:36 PM
Quote from: Solo on July 17, 2010, 05:09:41 PM
Quote from: veekie on July 17, 2010, 05:07:49 PM
Find the City.
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Among other things.
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Re: What spells and abilities radically change how the game is played?
« Reply #23 on: July 17, 2010, 10:08:09 PM »
Gotta throw some love the way of Extend Spell. It ain't an ability per se, but it's the cornerstone on which so much of a caster's power is based.
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Re: What spells and abilities radically change how the game is played?
« Reply #24 on: July 17, 2010, 10:13:00 PM »
Locate city is what I think you're talking about.

Shrink item? It's good for so many things.

Also, explosive runes. Lesser planar binding. Rary's mnemonic enhancer. Lots of the stuff in Core, really.
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Re: What spells and abilities radically change how the game is played?
« Reply #25 on: July 17, 2010, 10:44:29 PM »
Celerity, Polymorph, Synchronicity.
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Quote from: The_Mad_Linguist on July 27, 2009, 01:19:19 PM
A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.

Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY!
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They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.

Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.

Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
Best metaphor I have seen in a long time.  I give you much fu.
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Re: What spells and abilities radically change how the game is played?
« Reply #26 on: July 18, 2010, 12:00:45 AM »
Quote from: Solo on July 17, 2010, 05:09:41 PM
Quote from: veekie on July 17, 2010, 05:07:49 PM
Find the City.
Never be lost again!
Among other things.

Oh comon, how could a spell with an area of miles be deadly?
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Re: What spells and abilities radically change how the game is played?
« Reply #27 on: July 18, 2010, 02:44:53 AM »
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Re: What spells and abilities radically change how the game is played?
« Reply #28 on: July 18, 2010, 09:37:08 AM »
Quote from: Aliment on July 18, 2010, 12:00:45 AM
Quote from: Solo on July 17, 2010, 05:09:41 PM
Quote from: veekie on July 17, 2010, 05:07:49 PM
Find the City.
Never be lost again!
Among other things.

Oh comon, how could a spell with an area of miles be deadly?
you dont know the locate city bomb? :D
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Re: What spells and abilities radically change how the game is played?
« Reply #29 on: July 18, 2010, 11:59:51 PM »
What about feats that allow early PrC entry like:

Versatile Spell caster
Santium Spell
Alternative Sourced Spell
Southern magician (I forget if they added Errata on this one saying no?)

Free wish and money tricks:
Dweomerkeeper
Wall of salt and ancestral relic
Summoning genie's
Shapechange into the Construct that can supernatural up a wish
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Re: What spells and abilities radically change how the game is played?
« Reply #30 on: July 19, 2010, 01:26:04 AM »
Message.  Yes.  Another zero-level game-changer.

Doesn't say anything about WILLING targets.  and it goes around barriers.  So you can eavesdrop on ANYBODY.
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Re: What spells and abilities radically change how the game is played?
« Reply #31 on: July 19, 2010, 01:56:47 AM »
Leadership
Divine Metamagic - Anything
Item Creation Feats - Maybe not a radical departure of game play base, but, with optimization...
Greenbound Summoning - At early levels you summon monsters that cast a 5th level spell.  Or 1st level Entangle at will.
Flyby Attack/Pounce with RAW interpretation.
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Re: What spells and abilities radically change how the game is played?
« Reply #32 on: July 26, 2010, 02:19:20 AM »
Create Water. Its quite an amazing spell
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Re: What spells and abilities radically change how the game is played?
« Reply #33 on: July 26, 2010, 05:53:02 AM »
Quote from: Lycanthromancer on July 17, 2010, 10:13:00 PM
Locate city is what I think you're talking about.

Shrink item? It's good for so many things.

Also, explosive runes. Lesser planar binding. Rary's mnemonic enhancer. Lots of the stuff in Core, really.
+10000 for planar binding. I'd also suggest Animate Dead for changing a roleplaying game into a strategy game :P
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Re: What spells and abilities radically change how the game is played?
« Reply #34 on: July 26, 2010, 05:56:19 AM »
Depends on what role you play.  Some people are the types to earn the Lichloved feat even if they don't bother taking it...
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Re: What spells and abilities radically change how the game is played?
« Reply #35 on: July 26, 2010, 06:02:16 AM »
[i}Create water[/i] at will is even more world-changing!
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Re: What spells and abilities radically change how the game is played?
« Reply #36 on: July 26, 2010, 10:24:45 AM »
Quote from: weenog on July 26, 2010, 05:56:19 AM
Depends on what role you play.  Some people are the types to earn the Lichloved feat even if they don't bother taking it...
To be fair, they never said no.
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Re: What spells and abilities radically change how the game is played?
« Reply #37 on: July 26, 2010, 11:03:32 AM »
Quote from: Tenebrous Apostate on July 26, 2010, 05:53:02 AM
+10000 for planar binding. I'd also suggest Animate Dead for changing a roleplaying game into a strategy game :P
Animate Dead belongs on the list. It's the main thing I miss on my good-aligned cleric. :P The Planar Ally spells can be a big deal, also, but the DM has a lot more control over those.
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Re: What spells and abilities radically change how the game is played?
« Reply #38 on: July 26, 2010, 03:10:34 PM »
Quote from: Tenebrous Apostate on July 26, 2010, 05:53:02 AM
I'd also suggest Animate Dead for changing a roleplaying game into a strategy game :P
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Re: What spells and abilities radically change how the game is played?
« Reply #39 on: July 26, 2010, 03:21:13 PM »
Or combine the two and take Undead Leadership.
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