Psuedodragon with +38 Grapple check and 20' reach(DM fiat required)

[carnivore]

heres a fun build:

as you look at the Tiny greenish hued Dragon that has a body about 1 foot long, with a 2-foot tail, you hear a little voice in your Mind, "Dont ever call me Cute ... that just makes me Angry .. you wouldnt like me when I'm Angry"


1/2 Troll Psuedodragon 9/ Ranger 2/ Rogue 2/ Stoneblessed(Goliath) 3/ Barbarian 3/ Horizonwalker 1

1/2 Troll Template
[spoiler]Half-Troll(a creature that is part Troll, usually due to magical experimentation)(FF p93)
Gains many Troll attributes, such as a pointy nose, long arms, greenish skin, and an insatiable hunger.
Inherited Template that can be added to any Animal, Dragon, Fey, Giant, Humanoid, Magical Beast, Monstrous Humanoid, or Outsider.
Becomes a Ranger:
Trap Expert (DS, p 12): Lose tracking. Gain trap finding, and disable device as a class skill.

Voice of the City (CS, web): Lose wild empathy to gain the ability to communicate with people who speak languages you do not know.

Fangshields Ranger Substitution Levels (CV, p 41): nonhumanoid, add Diplomacy
2nd level: Combat Style (Multiattack or Improved Natural Attack (single natural weapon), Weapon Focus (any natural weapon), Weapon Focus (any other natural weapon), or Greater Weapon Focus (single natural weapon))

Rogue:
Simple Variant Rogue:(UA)
The rogue who favors martial training over stealth and cunning can profit if she chooses her fights carefully.
Gain: Bonus feats (as fighter).
Lose: Sneak attack.

Goliath Rogue Substitution Levels (RS, p 152): d8 hitdice, add survival to class skills
2nd level: Mettle of Mountains (+4 bonus to For, Mettle), no evasion

Barbarian:
Goliath Barbarian Substitution Levels (RS, p 150): add knowledge: nature to class list
1st level: Mountain Rage (extra size: changes to Large/ +2 additional strength while raging), replaces normal rage

Bear Totem(UA)
A barbarian dedicated to the bear totem does not gain the standard fast movement, uncanny dodge, trap sense, and improved uncanny dodge barbarian class features, and instead gains the following abilities.
A 1st-level bear-totem barbarian gains Toughness as a bonus feat.
At 2nd level, a bear-totem barbarian gains Improved Grapple as a bonus feat, even if he doesn't meet the normal prerequisites.
A 3rd-level bear-totem barbarian gains Great Fortitude as a bonus feat.
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Attributes: 32pt buy
30 Str(base 16 +2 Racial +2 lvl +4 Inherent +6 Belt)
34 Dex(base 16 +6 racial +1 lvl +5 Inherent +6 Belt)
30 Con(base 14 +8 racial +2 Stone blessed +6 Belt)
18 Int(base 14 -2 racial +6 Belt)
16 Wis(base 8 +2 racial +6 Belt)
12 Chr(base 8 -2 racial +6 Belt)

when Raging: ... includes Boost from Size changes(Tiny>Small>Medium>Large)

36 Str
34 Dex
34 Con
18 Int
16 Wis
12 Cha


Flaws:
Vulnerable
Murkey Eyed

Progression and Feats:

Dragon HD ..................................... Weapon Finnesse(Racial bonus), Mourning Mutate*(Flaw bonus), Inhuman Reach(Flaw bonus), Deepspawn
Dragon HD
Ranger 1 ........................................ Barbed Stinger
Stoneblessed 1
Stoneblessed 2
Stoneblessed 3 ...............................  open feat? ,Toughness(Bonus)
Barbarian 1 ..................................... Toughness(Bonus)
Rogue 1 .......................................... TWF(Bonus)
Rogue 2 .......................................... Extra Rage, Endurance(Bonus)
Ranger 2 ......................................... Multiattack
Barbarian 2 ..................................... Imp Grapple(Bonus)
Barbarian 3 ..................................... Prehensile Tail, Great Fortitude(Bonus)
HorizonWalker 1

*Mourning Mutate feat:
[spoiler]Mourning Mutate
Type: Aberrant
Source: Dragon #359

You survived the Mourning, but it left its mark upon your body. While one feature is especially noteworthy, you might have any number of purely cosmetic oddities. Unusual skin, hair, and eye Colors are common, as are strange rashes or webs of scars. The form of a warped feature is up to you and the DM, It might be out of proportion, or it niight be truly monstrous in nature.

Benefit: You gain a physical feature that grants you a racial bonus on one type of check or actiQn. The bonus must be chosen from the following list:

Mourning Feature Benefit
Disturbing sores +3 on saving throws vs. poison and disease. (see below)
Hideous features +3 on Intimidate checks
Spongy flesh DR 3/- vs. nonlethal damage
Unnaturally flexible +3 on Escape Artist
Warped ears +3 on listen checks
Warped eyes +3 on Spot checks
Warped limb Limb deals +2 damage with unarmed strikes


Special: This feat is treated as Aberration Blood (Lords of Madness) for purposes of meeting feat prerequisites.
If you have disturbing sores and successfully save against a disease by 3 or fewer points, you avoid its effects.
You may only take this feat at 1st level.

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When Ragin ... goes from Tiny to Large....  
Grapple check when Raging:

+38 + 1d20 (+11 BAB+4 Imp Grapple +4 large +13 Str +2 Prehensile Tail +2 Deepspawn +2 Abberation blood)

can grapple Huge creatures

Attacks when Raging:
Tail Sting 1d8 +13... with 20' reach
Bite 1d6+6 ............ with 15' reach
2x Claw 1d8+6 ...... with 15' reach


Items:
200000gp +6 Belt of Magnificense
137000gp +5 Tome of Dex
110000gp +4 Tome of Str

any errors? ... thoughts

lots of fun to spring on someone

 

[woodenbandman]

Yeah, the error is that you don't gain increased size bonuses to strength vis a vis mountain rage, only the bonuses EXPLICITLY granted you by the ability. those bonuses are from racial HD increases. You still get the grapple bonus for being large but your strength is more like 36 than 50.

[A_Shadow_of_Life]

Still, yummy! Very awesome =D

[ninjarabbit]

If you take ability focus: poison with your open feat then your poison DC will be 35 (10 +6 HD +15 con +2 racial +2 ability focus) when raging.

[Summerstorm]

Umm... how do you get access to racial substitution levels when you are not of that race? I don't see any possibility to get Goliath substitution level for a trollish pseudodragon.

[Bastian]

Umm... how do you get access to racial substitution levels when you are not of that race? I don't see any possibility to get Goliath substitution level for a trollish pseudodragon.

Stoneblessed (Goliath) 3

[gorfnad]

Umm... how do you get access to racial substitution levels when you are not of that race? I don't see any possibility to get Goliath substitution level for a trollish pseudodragon.

Stoneblessed prestige class

Edit:Ninjas are out today

[Summerstorm]

Ah i see... so some goliath clan has invited this pseudodragon to live with them.. and he gets access to their stuff. THAT IS JUST WEIRD *g*.

Hm. Seems i always skipped reading over those classes. Hm, new possibilities...

[AngellusMortus]

Somehow, after reading that other Pseudodragon thread and seeing you post in it, I thought something like this would be incoming. Well done as always. 

[Rymosrac]

I swear, none of the big names in CharOp have quite the talent for playing off the beaten path, especially in regards to creative use of races. Well done, Carnivore. Though as previously mentioned, there is the issue of not explicitly being granted the STR increase from size changes.

[BowenSilverclaw]

No room for Totemist 2 or Hidden Talent (Grip of Iron)/Psychic Warrior?

Biut yeah, definitely a fun build

[Fadier]

Sorry to burst your bubble but Aberation Blood requires you to be a humanoid, which can be fixed with Human Heritage (RoD 152). Also another feat to increase reach is Extended Reach (SS 34) but its only going to take effect when you rage, which is not a big thing.

Half-Troll just adds a whole chunk of LA, I would just drop it and go with Human Heritage (which also covers Stoneblessed). Another way you could go with this is drop the Aberation line and take Extended Reach, Multigrab (SK 146), Greater Multigrab (also SK 146) and Fling Enemy (SS 34). Pick people up and fling them at no penalty? Yes please!

[carnivore]

ok  ... thanks for the feedback .... this was kind of a quick idea, so i didnt think it all thru very well

errors:

adjust for size .... change Raging Str to 36, Dex 34, Con 34

didnt consider Abberation Blood requiring Humanoid... could work if i take those feats after Stoneblessed 3 ... since then he will be considered a Goliath

cant remove 1/2 Troll .... Stoneblessed requires: Giant, Humanoid, or Monstrous Humanoid..... 1/2 Troll makes him a Giant

looks like this experiment is not a success .... since even if i were to try and take the Aberration Feats after the levels of Stoneblessed .... there is just not enough feats to use... this build would require DM fiat to be allowed ... i will adjust the OP to reflect the reduced attributes from the incorrect size change application .... thanks everyone for the input .... good thought exercise

 

[Fadier]

Actually Half-Troll is superfluous if you can get the Humanoid subtype, that qualifies you for Stoneblessed

[carnivore]

true ... however :

Human Heritage
Type: Racial
Source: Races of Destiny
Your human heritage is more prominent than in others of your kind.
Prerequisite: Half-human race or human-descended race.
Benefit: You are treated as a humanoid with the human-subtype for the purpose of adjudicating all effects. If you are not a humanoid, your type changes to humanoid and you gain the human subtype. If you are already a humanoid, you gain the human subtype. In either case, you retain any other subtypes you had (such as orc or extraplanar), and you retain any traits common to all creatures of your original type (such as darkvision).
You gain 4 additional skill points.
Special: This feat may only be taken at 1st level.

which will be hard to explain .... since Pseudodragon is not 1/2 Human or Human Descended.... i dont know of any ways to get Humanoid for a Pseudodragon

 

[Prime32]

Mount Handbook to the rescue!

The Mourning Mutate feat counts as Aberration Blood but doesn't require you to be Humanoid.

[PhaedrusXY]

Mount Handbook to the rescue!

The Mourning Mutate feat counts as Aberration Blood but doesn't require you to be Humanoid.

Bah, I came here to post this! 

[BowenSilverclaw]

Mount Handbook to the rescue!

The Mourning Mutate feat counts as Aberration Blood but doesn't require you to be Humanoid.

Bah, I came here to post this! 

Source?

[Agita]

Mount Handbook to the rescue!

The Mourning Mutate feat counts as Aberration Blood but doesn't require you to be Humanoid.

Bah, I came here to post this! 

Source?

Dragon 359, apparently. Also here.

[BowenSilverclaw]

Mount Handbook to the rescue!

The Mourning Mutate feat counts as Aberration Blood but doesn't require you to be Humanoid.

Bah, I came here to post this! 

Source?

Dragon 359, apparently. Also here.

Thanks