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Shadowchar help needed plz
« on: July 06, 2010, 09:32:41 AM »

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Re: Shadowchar help needed plz
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2010, 12:24:38 PM »
I'd suggest a Dark (Tome of Magic) Whisper Gnome (Races of Stone) with the Troll-blooded feat (some dragon magazine, and Dragon Compendium, IIRC). You'll have hide in plain sight, great hide and move silently modifiers, and regeneration 1. You'll be fatigued in sunlight, unless you take another feat to counteract that. I know there is one that works for that, but I forget the name...
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Re: Shadowchar help needed plz
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2010, 12:56:12 PM »
daylight adaption?

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« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2010, 12:57:47 PM »
daylight adaption?
That sounds right.
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Re: Shadowchar help needed plz
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2010, 01:05:23 PM »
what classes and feats would be good?

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« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2010, 01:13:48 PM »
Rogue and Swordsage are the most obvious ones... It depends on if you want to go ranged or melee for combat, too.
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« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2010, 01:16:45 PM »
what classes and feats would be good?

If you are going to be stealthy, pick a class that benefits from it - Rogue or Factotum (from Dungeonscape), for example - and go to town while you SA people to death from the shadows  :smirk

Should you choose this route, don't forget to grab some ranks in UMD and carry some utility wands - Grave Strike (SpC), Hunter's Eye (PHB2, IIRC)...

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« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2010, 01:17:19 PM »
Dark, Shadow, Chameleon, Wisper Gnome, that is +4, so if you wanted smaller I might drop shadow.

If you go troll-blooded, I suggest a level in Horizon Walker, select desert for you terrain.

Swordsage 2, late enough to get assassin's stance. The assassin's spells probably wouldn't be a bad addition. With Int in you stats now, a few levels of Factotum can't be all bad.
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« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2010, 01:28:32 PM »
Just taking the Shadow Creature template from Lords of Madness seems to get you what you want; it's the beefed up version of the dark template, and one of the options is fast healing 2.  +2 LA, and it also gets you Cold resist 5+HD (max 15), total concealment at all times except under full natural daylight and daylight, and +6 racial mod to move silently.  You also get +50% speed, and increasing abilities as you gain HD (plane shift to/from Plane of Shadow 1/day, DR 5/magic, +2 luck bonus to all saves, evasion, fast healing 2, Mirror Image 1/day.)

Does the Dark template give you a bonus to hide?  I guess I find it odd that one is supposed to be a weaker version of the other, but they might give bonuses to different skills...
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Re: Shadowchar help needed plz
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2010, 01:36:45 PM »

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« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2010, 02:26:07 PM »
One interesting thing I've recently come across, in combination with the Troll-blooded feat, is the At Home in the Deep feat from Drow of the Underdark.  It requires that you have Darkvision and a Darkness spell-like ability (though not necessarily a racial SLA), and it allows you to see unhindered within a darkness spell/SLA.

Dipping a single level of Warlock would allow you to get the darkness SLA.  Just pick a race with darkvision.
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« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2010, 04:02:32 PM »
How could it be possible to get more feats? I know only fighter or factotum lvls....but no tricks...are there some tricks? ^^

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« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2010, 04:13:54 PM »
One interesting thing I've recently come across, in combination with the Troll-blooded feat, is the At Home in the Deep feat from Drow of the Underdark.  It requires that you have Darkvision and a Darkness spell-like ability (though not necessarily a racial SLA), and it allows you to see unhindered within a darkness spell/SLA.

Dipping a single level of Warlock would allow you to get the darkness SLA.  Just pick a race with darkvision.
Or you could just use the warlock invocation that grants you darkvision, including darkvision in magical darkness.
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« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2010, 04:27:25 PM »
I see, the first thing I have to look at tomorrow is the race. Then I ask more ^^

Oh...the problem with my DM is, I am not allowed to use anything with the word "psion...". No races, no classes, no items....ok, maybe items.

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« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2010, 04:33:33 PM »
Oh...the problem with my DM is, I am not allowed to use anything with the word "psion...". No races, no classes, no items....ok, maybe items.
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These are the kinds of things you should be telling us in the first post. Also: What level(s) are you starting and playing at? What books can you use? What things are banned? etc.
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Re: Shadowchar help needed plz
« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2010, 04:38:32 PM »
Or you could just use the warlock invocation that grants you darkvision, including darkvision in magical darkness.
True, but that would require 2 levels of Warlock to get both.
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« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2010, 04:43:58 PM »
Or you could skip warlock completely and get ebon eyes and darkvision (caster level one of course) as continuous items.
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Re: Shadowchar help needed plz
« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2010, 04:51:10 PM »
These are the kinds of things you should be telling us in the first post. Also: What level(s) are you starting and playing at? What books can you use? What things are banned? etc.


Sorry :(
And I thought I have infos for the first post.

I "can" start, cauze its in the middle of a plot between lvl 10 till 12/13...
What do you mean with playing at? Which location or dungeon? Or with how many others I play and their chars?

I can use nearly every 3.5 Rule book, but nothing with psionics.

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« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2010, 04:57:54 PM »
What do you mean with playing at? Which location or dungeon? Or with how many others I play and their chars?
He means what level character are you making, and what levels do you think the campaign will run through.

It sounds like you are starting with a 10th level character, and plan for the adventure to last until you are 13th level.
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Re: Shadowchar help needed plz
« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2010, 05:21:10 PM »
Sorry, I am german ^^

The other Characterlvls are a lvl 11, a 12 and a 14. So I think I can have a 11 or 12 lvl char I think.

The adventure is a legendary underground city. So I need at least something to make light with, that I can hide in shadows then xD
The adventure goes till 20...or I am dead...depends how you help me, without you I am dead fast ;)