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Loads of Spell Per Day.
« on: July 02, 2010, 08:41:33 AM »
Anyone have information on how to get more Spells Per Day as a Sorcerer?

Why? There is a Prestige Class in Player's Guide to Arcanis called the Spellcaller, you lose 2 spells per day, per spell level.

So I want more spells per day.

Barring, Rod of Absorption, Rings of Spell Storing, Magica Memento's. I've already thought of those :3
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Re: Loads of Spell Per Day.
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2010, 09:12:47 AM »
A very, very high Charisma.

Barring that, you may have to go for SLAs to get what you want. Become a spellstitched undead, use a bunch of reserve feats, and play a race with a decent natural SLA or two.

Can't an item familiar get you what you want? I don't remember if you can give it your slots or not.

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Re: Loads of Spell Per Day.
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2010, 10:20:21 AM »
Extra Spell/Extra Slot are naturals for this.
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Re: Loads of Spell Per Day.
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2010, 11:40:19 AM »
Nightmare Spinner PrC gets you one of each level IIRC, though you lose a caster level.

Spellcasting Prodigy and possibly some Eberron feats (I think they were published with Dragonmarked Sorcerer) let you treat your Cha score as higher for the purposes of bonus spells.

There's an ACF in Dragon which trades your familiar for the chance to recover a spell slot if the spell was negated somehow.

Can't an item familiar get you what you want? I don't remember if you can give it your slots or not.
You can, it's just that you can only invest one and the bonus spell slot is two levels lower than your highest.
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Re: Loads of Spell Per Day.
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2010, 12:15:27 PM »
i havent looked at them in a while but i think Rings of Wizardry mught be helpfull for at least one or two spell levels.  other than that i would just find a way to get my cha up to the heavens and then some to make up for the lost of spells per day.  and what does the class give you in return for the loss of 2 spells per day per spell level? thats a steep price to pay

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Re: Loads of Spell Per Day.
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2010, 01:31:32 PM »
Fiendish Familiar in the Fiend Folio lets you could as having a charisma 2 higher for the number of spells per day.

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Re: Loads of Spell Per Day.
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2010, 01:36:59 PM »
There should be a handbook on this...
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Re: Loads of Spell Per Day.
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2010, 01:39:03 PM »
Anyone have information on how to get more Spells Per Day as a Sorcerer?

Why? There is a Prestige Class in Player's Guide to Arcanis called the Spellcaller, you lose 2 spells per day, per spell level.

So I want more spells per day.

Barring, Rod of Absorption, Rings of Spell Storing, Magica Memento's. I've already thought of those :3
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Re: Loads of Spell Per Day.
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2010, 02:26:50 PM »
i havent looked at them in a while but i think Rings of Wizardry mught be helpfull for at least one or two spell levels.  other than that i would just find a way to get my cha up to the heavens and then some to make up for the lost of spells per day.  and what does the class give you in return for the loss of 2 spells per day per spell level? thats a steep price to pay
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Re: Loads of Spell Per Day.
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2010, 03:45:53 PM »
Tainted Scholar from HoH gains bonus spells based on their taint as opposed to their casting stat.

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Re: Loads of Spell Per Day.
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2010, 04:41:05 PM »
Tainted Scholar from HoH gains bonus spells based on their taint as opposed to their casting stat.
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Re: Loads of Spell Per Day.
« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2010, 06:08:46 PM »
okay so this is a homebrew prc from some one its not something i think i would let into a game i ran but i would just keep abusing its spell learning ability and castng arcane fusion as much as possible

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Re: Loads of Spell Per Day.
« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2010, 06:30:42 PM »
In return you gain 2 spells known per level, in addition you gain an additional spell known per level in the class that you can use to learn spells from other lists, if they aren't on your own list they are +1 level. And you pay 100 xp per spell lvl, you can change them for another XP cost.. and You can expend spellslots for metamagic effects, max spell lvlthough is what you can cast, i.e. if you can cast 8th level spells you can cast a Persistent Invisibility for a 2nd lvl slot and a 6th. (o.O?)

Not sure if I am going to go with it heh. Loss of spells per day makes me like a Wizard lol
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Re: Loads of Spell Per Day.
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2010, 06:48:07 PM »
if you really wanted access to a lot of spells as a sorcerer i would just get umd to high heavens fast or play a warmage/beguiler/dread necromancer and use feats/prcs to get things added to your spell list quickly that way.  ie the every fun rainbow warsnake.  but a sorcer or what not with heritage feats and prcs like rainbow servant can do a lot in the way of versitality.

dont forget to buy/make staves  or wands if possible to help out as well.  
i know that some one made a handbook about adding spells to your spell list just not sure if its here or lost
http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=2777.0 found it quick for you
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Re: Loads of Spell Per Day.
« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2010, 06:54:53 PM »
Not sure if I am going to go with it heh. Loss of spells per day makes me like a Wizard lol
No, it makes you a gimp. The wizard still has more tactical flexibility. I will second the suggestion of adding spells known via other means like Sandshaper, Runestaffs, etc.
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Re: Loads of Spell Per Day.
« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2010, 07:26:13 PM »
Now.. I will be using the Metamagic feat 'Undead Battery', as a Sorcerer. Any ideas on how to optimize the yummy? :P

Some Info, Gestalt, level 16, feats are effectively doubled for level progression. (1st lvl, 3rd lvl, etc are x2 feats at those levels). Fractional BaB, Weapon Groups, 2 Flaws..
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Re: Loads of Spell Per Day.
« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2010, 07:28:56 PM »
Now.. I will be using the Metamagic feat 'Undead Battery', as a Sorcerer. Any ideas on how to optimize the yummy? :P

Some Info, Gestalt, level 16, feats are effectively doubled for level progression. (1st lvl, 3rd lvl, etc are x2 feats at those levels). Fractional BaB, Weapon Groups, 2 Flaws..
 and free +2 LA

so your playing gestalt rules?
and a sorcerer?
do you have to be a sorcerer and how are you getting your stats? i know im no the only one who can have a lot of fun with this do you have any ideas on what you want the second side of the build to be?

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Re: Loads of Spell Per Day.
« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2010, 07:36:49 PM »
Want to be a sorcerer,specifically I want to be a Debuffer if possible, or at least decent with metamagic.

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Re: Loads of Spell Per Day.
« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2010, 08:20:11 PM »
The Wizard of High Sorcery prc has an ability that lets you take Con damage for bonus slots.

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Re: Loads of Spell Per Day.
« Reply #19 on: July 02, 2010, 08:41:58 PM »
Wizard of High Sorcery Requires the ability to prepare and cast 2nd lvl arcane spells.

Note: I don't -have- to be a sorcerer, but it helps if I were to use Undead Battery from Age of Mortals since it is based on Cha for use..

I wouldn't mind playing a Wizard heh.
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