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Endarire

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Metamorphic Transfer and Psicrystals
« on: May 14, 2010, 10:19:27 PM »
Let's assume I use metamorphosis on myself and share this power with my psicrystal.  We turn into pixies.  I'm invisible, but is my crystal, and if so, for how long?
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Speaking of which:
Don't even need TO for this.  Any decent Hood build, especially one with Celerity, one-rounds [Azathoth, the most powerful greater deity from d20 Cthulu].
Does it bug anyone else that we've reached the point where characters who can obliterate a greater deity in one round are considered "decent?"

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Re: Metamorphic Transfer and Psicrystals
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2010, 01:07:26 AM »
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Re: Metamorphic Transfer and Psicrystals
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2010, 05:09:15 PM »
It'd take quite a bit of work to get Metamorphic Transfer onto a Psicrystal.
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Re: Metamorphic Transfer and Psicrystals
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2010, 08:26:49 PM »
It'd take quite a bit of work to get Metamorphic Transfer onto a Psicrystal.
Like a Wis bump item that won't fall off ...  :D
It requires a manifester level that it can't get (even with Hidden Talent) until epic.

It's easier to get Assume Supernatural Ability.
[spoiler]Masculine men like masculine things. Masculine men are masculine. Therefore, liking masculine men is masculine.

I dare anyone to find a hole in that logic.
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[/spoiler]I'm a writer. These are my stories. Some are even SFW! (Warning: Mostly Gay.)
My awesome poster collection. (Warning, some are NSFW.)
Agita's awesome poster collection.
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Which book is Lycanthromancer in?
Lyca ... is in the book. Yes he is.
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shit.. concerning psionics optimization, lycan IS the book
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Re: Metamorphic Transfer and Psicrystals
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2010, 09:57:11 PM »
It'd take quite a bit of work to get Metamorphic Transfer onto a Psicrystal.
Like a Wis bump item that won't fall off ...  :D
It requires a manifester level that it can't get (even with Hidden Talent) until epic.

It's easier to get Assume Supernatural Ability.

The host feats give a psicrystal a manifester level.  You allow another psionic entity to possess your psicrystal

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Re: Metamorphic Transfer and Psicrystals
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2010, 10:35:08 PM »
If you could somehow change your psycrystal into a humanoid for a while you could mind seed it so it can have powers... Provided you were level 13 or higher when you did it.

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Re: Metamorphic Transfer and Psicrystals
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2010, 02:55:27 AM »
Mind seed is a level 8 power.  You could use it earlier from a dorje or power stone.
Hood - My first answer to all your build questions; past, present, and future.

Speaking of which:
Don't even need TO for this.  Any decent Hood build, especially one with Celerity, one-rounds [Azathoth, the most powerful greater deity from d20 Cthulu].
Does it bug anyone else that we've reached the point where characters who can obliterate a greater deity in one round are considered "decent?"

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Re: Metamorphic Transfer and Psicrystals
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2010, 03:08:30 AM »
you could but then the resulting crystal wouldnt have enough levels to get assume supernatural ability

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Re: Metamorphic Transfer and Psicrystals
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2010, 04:28:52 AM »
Noted.  The psicrystal only needs 12 HD for +3 CHA.  Maybe it can read a tome.
Hood - My first answer to all your build questions; past, present, and future.

Speaking of which:
Don't even need TO for this.  Any decent Hood build, especially one with Celerity, one-rounds [Azathoth, the most powerful greater deity from d20 Cthulu].
Does it bug anyone else that we've reached the point where characters who can obliterate a greater deity in one round are considered "decent?"

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Re: Metamorphic Transfer and Psicrystals
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2010, 11:47:31 AM »
Mind seed is a level 8 power.  You could use it earlier from a dorje or power stone.
Mind Seed is mind-affecting.  The Psicrystal is immune because it's a construct.
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Re: Metamorphic Transfer and Psicrystals
« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2010, 11:48:40 AM »
Mind seed is a level 8 power.  You could use it earlier from a dorje or power stone.
Mind Seed is mind-affecting.  The Psicrystal is immune because it's a construct.
That's why Littha said you turn it into a humanoid first (via Metamorphosis or something). This also works if you want to use Psychic Reformation on it.
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Re: Metamorphic Transfer and Psicrystals
« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2010, 11:56:16 AM »
Oh yeah...

Sorry, I'm playing a psion in a game where shapechanging spells/powers don't change type.  I forgot that wasn't the norm.

So I plan on making full use of that fact.  I also plan on enjoying symbionts...
I am constantly amazed by how many DM's ban Tomb of Battle.  The book doesn't even exist!

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By yes, she means no.
That explains so much about my life.
hiicantcomeupwithacharacterthatisntaghostwhyisthatamijustretardedorsomething
Why would you even do this? It hurts my eyes and looks like you ate your keyboard before suffering an attack of explosive diarrhea.
[/spoiler]

If using Genesis to hide your phylactry, set it at -300 degrees farenheit.  See how do-gooders fare with a liquid atmosphere.

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Re: Metamorphic Transfer and Psicrystals
« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2010, 05:53:40 PM »
Lyca - Assume Supernatural works too and it doesn't need everything that Metamorphic needs.


Warforged do this better, or a Cohort or Thrall.
PAO obviously, but that's much later ... unless a magic mart is around.
Elemental Envoys can do this more easily.

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Re: Metamorphic Transfer and Psicrystals
« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2010, 06:41:30 PM »
Player's Handbook 176 states:

Voluntarily Giving up a Saving Throw:
Hood - My first answer to all your build questions; past, present, and future.

Speaking of which:
Don't even need TO for this.  Any decent Hood build, especially one with Celerity, one-rounds [Azathoth, the most powerful greater deity from d20 Cthulu].
Does it bug anyone else that we've reached the point where characters who can obliterate a greater deity in one round are considered "decent?"

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Re: Metamorphic Transfer and Psicrystals
« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2010, 07:26:21 PM »
Lyca - Assume Supernatural works too and it doesn't need everything that Metamorphic needs.
I'm...pretty sure this is what I said.
[spoiler]Masculine men like masculine things. Masculine men are masculine. Therefore, liking masculine men is masculine.

I dare anyone to find a hole in that logic.
______________________________________
[/spoiler]I'm a writer. These are my stories. Some are even SFW! (Warning: Mostly Gay.)
My awesome poster collection. (Warning, some are NSFW.)
Agita's awesome poster collection.
[spoiler]
+1 Lycanthromancer
Which book is Lycanthromancer in?
Lyca ... is in the book. Yes he is.
 :D
shit.. concerning psionics optimization, lycan IS the book
[/spoiler]