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Re: A useful feat for any buffer
« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2010, 02:04:18 PM »
Necrotic Empowerment wouldn't work, it's Necromancy, not Transmutation.

Could possibly be done with a Transmuter Changeling. Don't they get a sub-level that lets them pick a few spells and change them to [Transmutation]? Maybe it's a PrC. I forget...

It's actually a variant from UA, but whatever. Yes, that works.
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Re: A useful feat for any buffer
« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2010, 10:01:51 PM »
combine with "fell energy" metamagic and wish your ability scores up!
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Re: A useful feat for any buffer
« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2010, 10:37:12 PM »
combine with "fell energy" metamagic and wish your ability scores up!

As in the inherent bonuses? Oooh, nice...

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Re: A useful feat for any buffer
« Reply #23 on: May 08, 2010, 10:42:35 PM »
combine with "fell energy" metamagic and wish your ability scores up!

As in the inherent bonuses? Oooh, nice...
That is a really nice trick, using a liberal interpretation of that interaction you could get a +15 bonus permanently out of that.l

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Re: A useful feat for any buffer
« Reply #24 on: May 08, 2010, 10:47:09 PM »
Even with less liberal, you could either get the whole +5 with a single wish, or get a +9 if you use it as your last wish.
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Re: A useful feat for any buffer
« Reply #25 on: May 08, 2010, 10:58:25 PM »
A psychic warrior with the magic mantle and strength of my enemy would gain +3 Strength for every point he drained from his foes. :D
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Re: A useful feat for any buffer
« Reply #26 on: May 09, 2010, 03:45:51 AM »
Owl's Insight is another one.  normally your insight bonus to wisdom is half your caster level, now it is half your caster level +2.

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Re: A useful feat for any buffer
« Reply #27 on: May 09, 2010, 04:39:36 AM »
Could an artificer make use of this feat?
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Re: A useful feat for any buffer
« Reply #28 on: May 09, 2010, 02:08:03 PM »
Could an artificer make use of this feat?

I do not thing they actually cast transmutation spells, so likely not.

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Re: A useful feat for any buffer
« Reply #29 on: May 09, 2010, 02:42:25 PM »
I think the best use I've seen so far is the Wish method. By RAW, I don't know if +15 is possible due to the way Wish is worded, but +3 for a single Wish, or +7 for 5 would certainly be possible.

The great thing about this feat is that it's a general feat, rather than a metamagic one. This means it stacks with metamagic. An Empowered Cat's Grace with this feat would grant +9 to Dexterity.

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Re: A useful feat for any buffer
« Reply #30 on: May 09, 2010, 02:49:24 PM »
An Empowered Cat's Grace with this feat would grant +9 to Dexterity.
no, it would supply 6 dex. empower does nothing for cat's grace.
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Re: A useful feat for any buffer
« Reply #31 on: May 09, 2010, 02:52:50 PM »
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Re: A useful feat for any buffer
« Reply #32 on: May 09, 2010, 04:20:46 PM »
An Empowered Cat's Grace with this feat would grant +9 to Dexterity.
no, it would supply 6 dex. empower does nothing for cat's grace.

It'd work for the 3.0 version, IIRC, but not the 3.5 version. So if you can convince your DM to let you use the 3.0 version (not too hard a task, I imagine, given that a 3.0 Cat's Grace will be worse than a 3.5 version 50% of the time, equivalent 25%, and better by a point 25%), it's pretty good.

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Re: A useful feat for any buffer
« Reply #33 on: May 09, 2010, 06:44:39 PM »
So, how again are we getting Wish to be a Transmutation spell?
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Re: A useful feat for any buffer
« Reply #34 on: May 09, 2010, 07:08:40 PM »
So, how again are we getting Wish to be a Transmutation spell?

Wasn't the UA Transmuter variant mentioned?

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Re: A useful feat for any buffer
« Reply #35 on: May 10, 2010, 01:17:54 AM »
combine with "fell energy" metamagic and wish your ability scores up!

I have often wondered if the inherent bonus would stay +3 instead of +1 if you were no longer undead, like if you cast shroud of undeath or kiss of the vampire first.