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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Ragnarok Edition
« Reply #600 on: May 01, 2010, 09:24:52 PM »
it just means that levels in that class stack for determining what level the rogue needs to be in order to SA you.

btw -- there is one exception to evasions from different classes not stacking -- master thrower (explicitly states it does improve ; but like I said, this is the exception).
Yeah, but if the levels already stack due to it having uncanny dodge and improved uncanny dodge, gaining it a third or fourth time doesn't seem like it'd be worth it for the sake of level stacking.
consider this:
if you have barbarian 5/fighter 4, then a rogue only has to be 9th level to SA you.  However, if you are a barbarian 5/rogue 4 (or even barb 5/rogue 2/darkwood stalker 2, for example), then that rogue needs to be 13th level in order to SA you. 
That's what I mean by stacking (which can actually be useful from time to time).
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Ragnarok Edition
« Reply #601 on: May 01, 2010, 09:28:25 PM »
@ Freshums Actually the classes are exactly as I listed in the example. There's a science to my madness.

I'd looked at Spell Reflection and Uncanny Bravery, and they were definitely key considerations. I was just about to look up the Bravery one to see if there were any "exceptions" to the resist fear part.

@ wotmaniac -- True, I won't deny that, but if you have enough levels in a class that gives you both Uncanny and Improved Uncanny, then you really only need one of the two. So in the case of the rogue 7/shadowdancer 5, you gain Uncanny twice, and Improved Uncanny once. If you trade in the second regular Uncanny from Shadowdancer, you'll still stack.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Ragnarok Edition
« Reply #602 on: May 01, 2010, 10:30:58 PM »
Q 138 Other than what's in the PHB for Rogue talents, is there another list that you can choose from (or multiple lists)?
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Ragnarok Edition
« Reply #603 on: May 01, 2010, 10:49:59 PM »
ug I totally asked the wrong question last time (and even had the previous answer in front of me...  :rollseyes)

Q134: What's the best way to deliver sneak attack from very far range? Spells are allowed.
That 1st level sorcerer spell mentioned, and remember, if they can't see you, (Hide check, invisible, too dang far away) they're flat footed.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Ragnarok Edition
« Reply #604 on: May 01, 2010, 10:53:20 PM »
ug I totally asked the wrong question last time (and even had the previous answer in front of me...  :rollseyes)

Q134: What's the best way to deliver sneak attack from very far range? Spells are allowed.
That 1st level sorcerer spell mentioned, and remember, if they can't see you, (Hide check, invisible, too dang far away) they're flat footed.
No, they are just denied their Dex bonus, they are not flat footed.

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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Ragnarok Edition
« Reply #605 on: May 01, 2010, 11:12:12 PM »
Q 138 Other than what's in the PHB for Rogue talents, is there another list that you can choose from (or multiple lists)?

All I can think of is Wilderness Rogue, where you can choose some ranger abilities off the list (HiPS mainly, though you have to take camouflage before that).

It's a class variant, though.

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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Ragnarok Edition
« Reply #606 on: May 01, 2010, 11:53:45 PM »
and striking from afar.
um, how? the question is the means of striking from very very far away. Using a regular bow doesn't sound like a good idea. Eldritch spear isn't far enough.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Ragnarok Edition
« Reply #607 on: May 02, 2010, 12:01:07 AM »
and striking from afar.
um, how? the question is the means of striking from very very far away. Using a regular bow doesn't sound like a good idea. Eldritch spear isn't far enough.
Sniper crossbow?
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Ragnarok Edition
« Reply #608 on: May 02, 2010, 02:29:17 AM »
Q139:

What's the easiest way for a Mystic Fire Knight Paladin // Sorcerer to get cleric spells added to his spell list?

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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Ragnarok Edition
« Reply #609 on: May 02, 2010, 03:03:21 AM »
Q139:

What's the easiest way for a Mystic Fire Knight Paladin // Sorcerer to get cleric spells added to his spell list?
Rainbow Servant.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Ragnarok Edition
« Reply #610 on: May 02, 2010, 03:34:52 AM »
Q139:

What's the easiest way for a Mystic Fire Knight Paladin // Sorcerer to get cleric spells added to his spell list?
Rainbow Servant.
Doesn't that just give you +1 existing arcane spellcasting each level?
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Ragnarok Edition
« Reply #611 on: May 02, 2010, 03:40:21 AM »
Q139:

What's the easiest way for a Mystic Fire Knight Paladin // Sorcerer to get cleric spells added to his spell list?
Rainbow Servant.
Doesn't that just give you +1 existing arcane spellcasting each level?
And adds all cleric spells to your spell list (but not inherently spells known) at level 10.  Which is only really useful to beguilers and their friends.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Ragnarok Edition
« Reply #612 on: May 02, 2010, 03:42:45 AM »
Q139:

What's the easiest way for a Mystic Fire Knight Paladin // Sorcerer to get cleric spells added to his spell list?
Rainbow Servant.
Doesn't that just give you +1 existing arcane spellcasting each level?
And adds all cleric spells to your spell list (but not inherently spells known) at level 10.  Which is only really useful to beguilers and their friends.
Interesting. Since it casts as divine spells, does that mean that it requires Wisdom?
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Ragnarok Edition
« Reply #613 on: May 02, 2010, 04:01:27 AM »
Q 140: A +1 Throwing returning Necklase of Natural weapons, on a body slam, how would it work?
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Ragnarok Edition
« Reply #614 on: May 02, 2010, 04:14:34 AM »
Q 140: A +1 Throwing returning Necklase of Natural weapons, on a body slam, how would it work?
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Ragnarok Edition
« Reply #615 on: May 02, 2010, 04:19:22 AM »
A 140: The world's most awesome hip thrust?
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Ragnarok Edition
« Reply #616 on: May 02, 2010, 04:47:46 AM »
Q 140: A +1 Throwing returning Necklase of Natural weapons, on a body slam, how would it work?
It's Princess Peach's Hip attack from SSBM.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Ragnarok Edition
« Reply #617 on: May 02, 2010, 04:59:31 AM »
Q 141
Is there any way to emulate Power Attack without the feat?

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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Ragnarok Edition
« Reply #618 on: May 02, 2010, 05:16:33 AM »
Q 141
Is there any way to emulate Power Attack without the feat?
bite of the weretiger gives you power attack.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Ragnarok Edition
« Reply #619 on: May 02, 2010, 05:32:40 AM »
Q139:

What's the easiest way for a Mystic Fire Knight Paladin // Sorcerer to get cleric spells added to his spell list?
Rainbow Servant.
Doesn't that just give you +1 existing arcane spellcasting each level?
And adds all cleric spells to your spell list (but not inherently spells known) at level 10.  Which is only really useful to beguilers and their friends.
Interesting. Since it casts as divine spells, does that mean that it requires Wisdom?

No.