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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Viking Berserker Edition
« Reply #920 on: April 17, 2010, 06:40:18 PM »
Q 206: I'm playing a level 5 Dragonfire Adept who just got the Slow breath effect.  I'd like to know exactly what the Slow effect does limit the options of enemies.  According to the spell Slow an opponent can take only a standard or move action each turn.  Does this mean they cannot take free, swift, and immediate actions?  Further, taking a 5 foot step is described as a miscellaneous action (PHB 144).  Are enemies also denied taking a 5 foot step?

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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Viking Berserker Edition
« Reply #921 on: April 17, 2010, 06:59:14 PM »
In the rules compendium, it is clarified a little, but you can take a free, swift, or immediate action any time you are allowed another action. For instance, during surprise round, when using a readied action, etc.
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They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.

Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.

Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Viking Berserker Edition
« Reply #922 on: April 17, 2010, 07:28:09 PM »
Q203Where is the passage in ToB that covers restrictions on alignments and maneuvers/stances? Like taking a [Chaotic] stance, such as Aura of Chaos, if you are lawfully aligned. Is there such a restriction? Am I blind?
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In the case of stances/maneuvers which are clearly aligned (Doom Charge gives +damage vs. Good, DR from being "wreathed in unholy energy"), characters would probably never choose to learn those powers from a RP perspective because of opposite alignment. Evil characters would probably be exempt from this, though, seeing as they're okay with killing other Evil characters.
Doom Charge and it's Good counterpart actually do have alignment restrictions.  These are listed in the manuver prerequisites.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Viking Berserker Edition
« Reply #923 on: April 17, 2010, 07:32:57 PM »
Q 206: I'm playing a level 5 Dragonfire Adept who just got the Slow breath effect.  I'd like to know exactly what the Slow effect does limit the options of enemies.  According to the spell Slow an opponent can take only a standard or move action each turn.  Does this mean they cannot take free, swift, and immediate actions?  Further, taking a 5 foot step is described as a miscellaneous action (PHB 144).  Are enemies also denied taking a 5 foot step?

According to the Rules Compendium (page 7), you get your standard or move, and you also get swift, free, and immediate actions as normal.

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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Viking Berserker Edition
« Reply #924 on: April 17, 2010, 08:02:19 PM »
McPoyo and Negative Zero: thanks for the clarification.  I thought denying a whole slew of actions sounded too good to be true.  I didn't know about getting free and swift on readied actions and surprise rounds, which is really great.

I do still wonder about 5-foot steps, though.  If a 5 foot step is an action - a miscellaneous one - that can be performed once per turn without counting against other actions, that places it outside of the available action types while slowed.  Thoughts on this?

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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Viking Berserker Edition
« Reply #925 on: April 17, 2010, 08:04:43 PM »
McPoyo and Negative Zero: thanks for the clarification.  I thought denying a whole slew of actions sounded too good to be true.  I didn't know about getting free and swift on readied actions and surprise rounds, which is really great.

I do still wonder about 5-foot steps, though.  If a 5 foot step is an action - a miscellaneous one - that can be performed once per turn without counting against other actions, that places it outside of the available action types while slowed.  Thoughts on this?
Considering you can 5 foot step between attacks in a full attack, or when taking a readied action, i'd say it doesn't prevent them.
[Spoiler]
A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.

Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY!
They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.

Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.

Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
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Seven for the Barbarian-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Monks doomed to die,
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Viking Berserker Edition
« Reply #926 on: April 17, 2010, 08:13:56 PM »
McPoyo and Negative Zero: thanks for the clarification.  I thought denying a whole slew of actions sounded too good to be true.  I didn't know about getting free and swift on readied actions and surprise rounds, which is really great.

I do still wonder about 5-foot steps, though.  If a 5 foot step is an action - a miscellaneous one - that can be performed once per turn without counting against other actions, that places it outside of the available action types while slowed.  Thoughts on this?

I always understood that a 5-foot step was a 'no action'. That is, not any action. Do you have a source for "you may take a 5 foot step when taking a readied action", McPoyo?

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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Viking Berserker Edition
« Reply #927 on: April 17, 2010, 08:18:45 PM »
McPoyo and Negative Zero: thanks for the clarification.  I thought denying a whole slew of actions sounded too good to be true.  I didn't know about getting free and swift on readied actions and surprise rounds, which is really great.

I do still wonder about 5-foot steps, though.  If a 5 foot step is an action - a miscellaneous one - that can be performed once per turn without counting against other actions, that places it outside of the available action types while slowed.  Thoughts on this?
I always understood that a 5-foot step was a 'no action'. That is, not any action. Do you have a source for "you may take a 5 foot step when taking a readied action", McPoyo?
FAQ has several entries covering 5 foot steps, I am afb presently, however.

It tends to get answered in the middle of questions of "if I do X, can I still do Y, and when can I do Y during X?".

I know it was answered in a ToB question.
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A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.

Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY!
They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.

Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.

Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
Best metaphor I have seen in a long time.  I give you much fu.
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Seven for the Barbarian-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Monks doomed to die,
One for the Wizard on his dark throne
In the Land of Charop where the Shadows lie.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Viking Berserker Edition
« Reply #928 on: April 17, 2010, 08:35:27 PM »
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Viking Berserker Edition
« Reply #929 on: April 17, 2010, 08:37:57 PM »
McPoyo and Negative Zero: thanks for the clarification.  I thought denying a whole slew of actions sounded too good to be true.  I didn't know about getting free and swift on readied actions and surprise rounds, which is really great.

I do still wonder about 5-foot steps, though.  If a 5 foot step is an action - a miscellaneous one - that can be performed once per turn without counting against other actions, that places it outside of the available action types while slowed.  Thoughts on this?

I always understood that a 5-foot step was a 'no action'. That is, not any action. Do you have a source for "you may take a 5 foot step when taking a readied action", McPoyo?

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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Viking Berserker Edition
« Reply #930 on: April 17, 2010, 09:21:07 PM »
I always understood that a 5-foot step was a 'no action'.

The 5 foot step is listed in the miscellaneous action section of both the SRD and the PHB.  As it's an action and not of a type granted while slowed, it can't be used.

Under the same section treatment is given to activation of a feat and skill.  "Use feat" says there are two types of feats: some which take actions and some which don't.  Those that take actions are assigned actions by the feats themselves, such as Whirlwind Attack's full-round action.  Denying usage of a feat would only occur if the feat itself took a full-round action, just like Whirlwind Attack.  "Use skill" says most skills take a standard action, but could take other actions as stated in the skill description.  Denying the use of a skill would only happen in a full-round case or one which uses multiple rounds must be used like Disable Device, I suppose.

Notably the the other two miscellaneous actions say to refer to other portions of the book for their type of action.  5 foot step is an action, but not one of the defined types.  However, it does have specific conditions for use: no other movement, can be slipped between any other actions, only in non-hampered terrain or in darkness, must have a speed of 5 feet or more, must have a listed speed for that mode of movement.  Of course, I could be missing some FAQ clarification or Sage ruling.

Edit: Rules Compendium page 90 says you can take a 5 foot step at any time so long as your movement isn't hampered or prohibited.  Also, no language on actions on this version of the 5 foot step.  I think this closes the book on it.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Viking Berserker Edition
« Reply #931 on: April 17, 2010, 10:58:48 PM »
Q207: If my caster level increases while I am casting a spell, does the spell use the new caster level or the previous caster level?

For example: a 15th level Cleric is casting a Summon Monster spell (1 round casting time) and has Consumptive Field up and no other caster level boosts.  A party member drops an enemy to -4 hp and the enemy fails its save against the Consumptive Field.  Does the Summon Monster spell last for 15 rounds or 16 rounds?
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Viking Berserker Edition
« Reply #932 on: April 18, 2010, 12:06:48 AM »
Q 200! :What ways are there to automatically confirm a crit?
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Viking Berserker Edition
« Reply #933 on: April 18, 2010, 12:24:57 AM »
Q 200! :What ways are there to automatically confirm a crit?
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Doesn't stack with vorpal, which is what I'm going for. 

I suppose I just need to obtain an obscene bonus to crit confirmation.  And possibly rerolls.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Viking Berserker Edition
« Reply #934 on: April 18, 2010, 12:29:29 AM »
Q 200! :What ways are there to automatically confirm a crit?
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Doesn't stack with vorpal, which is what I'm going for. 

I suppose I just need to obtain an obscene bonus to crit confirmation.  And possibly rerolls.
aren't you doing this with TK'ed vorpal serpentstongue arrows?

anyways, there is a mountain hammer strike that gives everyone +10 on crit confirm vs the opponent it hits for a period of time(1 minute, I think).
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Viking Berserker Edition
« Reply #935 on: April 18, 2010, 12:34:49 AM »
Edit: Rules Compendium page 90 says you can take a 5 foot step at any time so long as your movement isn't hampered or prohibited.  Also, no language on actions on this version of the 5 foot step.  I think this closes the book on it.

If that's the case, couldn't you take a 5 foot step, say, after someone charges you but before the attack goes off, a la Abrupt Jaunt? Sorry, I don't mean to make this harder than it should be, I just want to know what the rules say you can do here.

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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Viking Berserker Edition
« Reply #936 on: April 18, 2010, 12:44:22 AM »
Edit: Rules Compendium page 90 says you can take a 5 foot step at any time so long as your movement isn't hampered or prohibited.  Also, no language on actions on this version of the 5 foot step.  I think this closes the book on it.

If that's the case, couldn't you take a 5 foot step, say, after someone charges you but before the attack goes off, a la Abrupt Jaunt? Sorry, I don't mean to make this harder than it should be, I just want to know what the rules say you can do here.
Can't move during someone else's turn, except with a readied action, so...
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A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.

Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY!
They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.

Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.

Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
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Nine for Mortal Monks doomed to die,
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Viking Berserker Edition
« Reply #937 on: April 18, 2010, 12:52:00 AM »
Q 200! :What ways are there to automatically confirm a crit?
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Doesn't stack with vorpal, which is what I'm going for. 

I suppose I just need to obtain an obscene bonus to crit confirmation.  And possibly rerolls.
aren't you doing this with TK'ed vorpal serpentstongue arrows?

anyways, there is a mountain hammer strike that gives everyone +10 on crit confirm vs the opponent it hits for a period of time(1 minute, I think).
Yeah, I am.  But having to roll 2 twenties in a row for a sure kill is too irritating.

Even with 84 attacks, that's still only get a 20% chance of killing the opponent.  Whereas with a 18-20 crit confirmation, I'd succeed 47% of the time.

Lets see... serren wood serpentstongue arrows, of course, since ghost touch attacks bypass most armors... maybe I should split this off into its own thread.

Probably should peel away the first two attacks as well, since using a splash weapon would remove any form of mirror image, and glowbug paste negates miss chances from blur, et cetera.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Viking Berserker Edition
« Reply #938 on: April 18, 2010, 12:55:41 AM »
Q208: this one has always bugged me. technically speaking, since readying an action is always a standard action, regardless of whether or not you ready a standard, move or full round action, couldn't anyone technically move towards someone, ready a full round action, and then full attack someone in the same turn? basically, a level1 monk could move 40ft to someone, and then drop a flurry(of misses) or decisive strike on them in the same round(but possibly at a lower initiative)?

seriously, this one has always bothered me. does it work?
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Viking Berserker Edition
« Reply #939 on: April 18, 2010, 01:09:52 AM »
A 208: No, you can only ready a standard, move, or free action.  By the Rules Compendium, with your readied action you can also use a free action, swift, and immediate action as well as a 5 foot step so long as you have not moved this round.

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You can ready a standard action, a move action, or a free action.