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Hallack

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Hallack's Swiftblade Builds
« on: March 16, 2010, 04:38:20 PM »
Just toying with some build ideas for combining Spelldancer with the Swiftblade for some gishing fun.  Likely this is not any new concept/combo but any ideas for improvements are welcome.

Of course the idea behind this build is to have fun with Spelldancing and Persistent spell.  For now I'm trying to keep the build to the realm of the living.

I'm also going to be posting other Swiftblade build ideas here as well.

Wizard/Swiftblade/Spelldancer (non-race dependent
[spoiler]Level    Class         ACF                        Feats/Features
   1      Wizard       Combat Wizard          (w) Dodge, (1) Mobility, (Flaw) Combat Casting, (Flaw) Endurance,
                                                         Perform 2(Cross class)
   2      Wizard      
   3      Wizard                                    (3) Extend Spell, Perform 3 (cross class)
   4      Wizard      
   5      Wizard       Combat Wizard          (w) Open
   6      Wizard                                    (6) Persistent Spell  
   7      Swiftblade
   8      Swiftblade
   9      Swiftblade                               (9) Open, Perform 6 (cross class)
   10    Spelldancer                              Max out Perform
   11    Swiftblade
   12    Swiftblade                               (12) Open[/spoiler]

Elf Wizard 5/Swiftblade 1 (Snow Elf for better CON)
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   1      Wizard       Combat Wizard          (Wiz) Dodge,
                                                        (1) open
                                                        (Flaw) Mobility
                                                        (Flaw) Fire Elf        3rd party Feat: Fire Elf - Gives +1 BAB
   2      Wizard
   3      Wizard                                     (3) Open
   4      Wizard      
   5      Wizard       Combat Wizard          (w) Mobility
   6      Swiftblade 1                              (6)  Open
   7      Swiftblade 2
   8      Swiftblade 3
   9      Swiftblade 4                             (9) Open  
   10    Swiftblade 5                            
   11    Swiftblade 6
   12    Swiftblade 7                              (12) Open

12th Level: BAB +10    Caster Level: 9th (5th level spells)

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Human Paragon/Wizard/Swiftblade/Spelldancer
[spoiler]Level    Class         ACF                        Feats/Features
   1     Wizard       Combat Wizard                  (w) Dodge, (1) Mobility, (Flaw) Combat Casting,
                                                               (Flaw) Endurance, (Human) Open  
   2      Human Paragon      
   3      Human Paragon                                (3) Extend Spell, (bonus) Open
   4      Wizard      
   5      Wizard                                    
   6      Human Paragon                                (6) Persistent Spell  
   7      Spelldancer
   8      Swiftblade
   9      Swiftblade                                       (9) Open
   10    Swiftblade                              
   11    Swiftblade
   12    Swiftblade                                       (12) Open[/spoiler]

Is there a better way to nab Perform as a class skill than Human Paragon.  I really don't want to loose the CL but it won't ruin this build.  I would also prefer not to have to spend 12 skill points cross class on dancing.

Those are a couple ideas so far that should be decent from start to finish if playing from 1st level I think.  There are several open feats that can be used to optimize in different directions and of course forms of Specialization are also a very good option most likely.

Possible ACFs
Focused Specialist (for extra spells particularly to fuel Arcane Strike) - I'm partial to Diviner for this.
Immediate Magic - Particularly Abrupt Jaunt

Open Feat Candidates
Knowledge Devotion
Minor Shapeshift [reserve]
Arcane Strike
Apprentice (DMGII) to avoid CrossClassing Perform if not doing Human Paragon
EWP: Elven Court Blade?  Spiked Chain?
Power Attack
Leap Attack
Improved Bull rush
Shock Trooper


Other PRCs of interest
Abjurant Champion- Why not, we've had to take the Prereq for Spelldancer.
Master Specialist - Some minor abilities and free feats (take only if want to burn Open feats on Spell Focus)
                        - If interested in Archmage this is also decent


Desirable Gear & Magic
Upcoming
FeyCraft....
Mithril Twilight Chain shirt
Gloves of Balanced Hand

Any other good tweeks, suggestions, or even better directions to this/these builds?
« Last Edit: April 19, 2010, 01:04:28 PM by Hallack »
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Re: Solid low to mid level Spelldaner/Swiftblade
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2010, 05:14:01 PM »
Apprentice feat from the DMG II can get perform as a class skill.

For elf there is aereni focus perform that gives it as a class skill and also grants skill focus.

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Re: Swiftblades with some Spelldancer fun
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2010, 03:38:30 PM »
Made some refinements and added more info/options.

Soon I'll also probably add some sorcerer and beguiler stubs as well.  But Beguiler I do not think will have as much overall to offer in conjunction with Spelldancer due to its limited spell list.
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Re: Swiftblades with some Spelldancer fun
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2010, 04:56:26 PM »
Be sure to grab Echoing Spell if going with a Wizard + Spelldancer. That's almost as broken Persistant Spells, since you simply get them back free (multiple times, too).

If you can, be a Domain Wizard (Transmutation Domain) - UA. If not, a Transmuter is best (Ditch Ench/Necro or Ench/Evoc).
You might also consider a level in Binder for Fast Ability Healing => This opens up Anima Mage, which is never a bad idea.
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Re: Hallack's Swiftblade Builds
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2010, 01:18:15 PM »
Elf Wizard 5/Swiftblade 1 (Snow Elf for better CON)
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   1      Wizard       Combat Wizard          (Wiz) Dodge,
                                                        (1) open
                                                        (Flaw) Mobility
                                                        (Flaw) Fire Elf                           3rd party Feat: Fire Elf - Gives +1 BAB
   2      Wizard
   3      Wizard                                     (3) Open
   4      Wizard       
   5      Wizard       Combat Wizard          (w) Mobility
   6      Swiftblade 1                              (6)  Open
   7      Swiftblade 2
   8      Swiftblade 3
   9      Swiftblade 4                             (9) Open   
   10    Swiftblade 5                             
   11    Swiftblade 6
   12    Swiftblade 7                              (12) Open

12th Level: BAB +10    Caster Level: 9th (5th level spells)
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Elf of course for the Martial Proficiencies.  I choose Snow Elf for the better Con though the +2 Int one is tempting too but less so for meleer.
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