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Re: Fun Finds!
« Reply #420 on: February 25, 2011, 09:04:58 AM »
Theller's Argauneau is a third level spell that lets you recover a spell slot of any level every time you cast it. The only problem is that it requires you to sacrifice a red dragon egg. Now you just need some way to get red dragon eggs (summoning perhaps), a dimensional pocket to store them in, and an item of it at will.

Next time I get to build a Sharn, this so is going to be one of the spells known.
Doesn't work as you'd think. The target is the egg, so you still have to find/make one.

Also iirc I dug for a way to create/purchase those mana potions. They were only given -> DM fiat.
You can't make the egg unless you have the ability to make living creatures since it specifies that the red dragon embryo has to be alive. As for finding them, if you are lazy you can buy them on the open market for 2000gp.

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Re: Fun Finds!
« Reply #421 on: February 25, 2011, 09:34:36 AM »
Wait, but that egg is a material component.  So, if you make it a Spell Like Ability, you can cast it without worrying whatsoever about those eggs.  Nice!

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Re: Fun Finds!
« Reply #422 on: February 25, 2011, 10:56:35 AM »
Wait, but that egg is a material component.  So, if you make it a Spell Like Ability, you can cast it without worrying whatsoever about those eggs.  Nice!

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Re: Fun Finds!
« Reply #423 on: February 25, 2011, 11:15:11 AM »
The Target line still requires it to be cast on an Egg.

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Re: Fun Finds!
« Reply #424 on: February 25, 2011, 11:19:57 AM »
The Target line still requires it to be cast on an Egg.

So? The egg is also a material component. Technically, the target line won't matter because the material component won't, either.
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« Reply #425 on: February 25, 2011, 11:27:23 AM »
Short of wishful thinking why would it invalidate the target line? Making it an SLA would be helpful because it won't destroy the egg, allowing this to all be done with any "One red dragon egg"

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« Reply #426 on: February 25, 2011, 11:41:23 AM »
Short of wishful thinking why would it invalidate the target line? Making it an SLA would be helpful because it won't destroy the egg, allowing this to all be done with any "One red dragon egg"

This seems correct.  I see no reason for the lack of material component to mean that it doesn't need a target, other than wishful thinking.
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Re: Fun Finds!
« Reply #427 on: February 25, 2011, 11:45:50 AM »
A one time 2,000 GP Focus is more than worth it.
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« Reply #428 on: February 25, 2011, 11:48:24 AM »
Well, until the egg hatches or goes bad.  Can't gentle repose it, since it has to be living.
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« Reply #429 on: February 25, 2011, 12:03:35 PM »
Then we get into that silly area about how long the eggs last. Or if a Red DWK can use it's own eggs.

either way, Quintessence will make it last a long time.

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Re: Fun Finds!
« Reply #430 on: February 25, 2011, 12:20:04 PM »
@TML
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hmpf. That teaches me to not only look up the price, but do a bit of reading around in the section. Would this restriction be worth it? I never looked into what the DII classes can actually do, but some are casters, obviously. Strong enough to make them worthwhile just for their potion access?

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The target egg doesn't technically need to contain a live embryo, so you could take one with a dead embryo that will never hatch.  :D


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Re: Fun Finds!
« Reply #431 on: February 26, 2011, 12:35:53 AM »
Alright, everyone, take a look at the SRD.

Bottom of the Artifact section is the Shield of the Sun. It gives you the ability to cast spells as a 20th level Paladin with 20 Wis. Spell slots are cumulative.

Any ideas on possible abuse?
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Bard: "I can get three idiots to kill guys for me."

On a strange note, would anyone be put out if we had a post about people or events we can spare a thought for, or if its within their creed, a prayer for? Just a random thought, but ... hells I wouldn't have known about either Archangels daughter or Saeomons niece if I didn't happen to be on these threads.
Sounds fine to me.
probably over on "Off-topic".
might want to put a little disclaimer in the first post.

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Re: Fun Finds!
« Reply #432 on: February 26, 2011, 12:46:59 AM »
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Re: Fun Finds!
« Reply #433 on: February 26, 2011, 02:52:42 PM »
Alright, everyone, take a look at the SRD.

Bottom of the Artifact section is the Shield of the Sun. It gives you the ability to cast spells as a 20th level Paladin with 20 Wis. Spell slots are cumulative.

Any ideas on possible abuse?

Step One: Guarantee obtaining one. How do we do it?
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Re: Fun Finds!
« Reply #434 on: February 26, 2011, 03:02:27 PM »
Alright, everyone, take a look at the SRD.

Bottom of the Artifact section is the Shield of the Sun. It gives you the ability to cast spells as a 20th level Paladin with 20 Wis. Spell slots are cumulative.

Any ideas on possible abuse?

Step One: Guarantee obtaining one. How do we do it?

Crank up your Knowledge Religion really high, for starters.
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Re: Fun Finds!
« Reply #435 on: February 26, 2011, 05:04:24 PM »
Alright, everyone, take a look at the SRD.

Bottom of the Artifact section is the Shield of the Sun. It gives you the ability to cast spells as a 20th level Paladin with 20 Wis. Spell slots are cumulative.

Any ideas on possible abuse?

Step One: Guarantee obtaining one. How do we do it?
1)Learn Apocalypse from the Sky
2)Buy a bag of material components
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Re: Fun Finds!
« Reply #436 on: February 26, 2011, 05:07:14 PM »
Alright, everyone, take a look at the SRD.

Bottom of the Artifact section is the Shield of the Sun. It gives you the ability to cast spells as a 20th level Paladin with 20 Wis. Spell slots are cumulative.

Any ideas on possible abuse?

Step One: Guarantee obtaining one. How do we do it?
1)Learn Apocalypse from the Sky
2)Buy a bag of material components
0)Become Necropolitan
3)Ignore the 4 negative levels you would otherwise gain from being evil (AftS is Vile, iirc.)
[spoiler]Fighter: "I can kill a guy in one turn."
Cleric: "I can kill a guy in half a turn."
Wizard: "I can kill a guy before my turn."
Bard: "I can get three idiots to kill guys for me."

On a strange note, would anyone be put out if we had a post about people or events we can spare a thought for, or if its within their creed, a prayer for? Just a random thought, but ... hells I wouldn't have known about either Archangels daughter or Saeomons niece if I didn't happen to be on these threads.
Sounds fine to me.
probably over on "Off-topic".
might want to put a little disclaimer in the first post.

This is the Min/Max board. We should be able to figure out a way to optimize the POWER OF PRAYER(TM) that doesn't involve "Pazuzu, Pazuzu, Pazuzu".
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Re: Fun Finds!
« Reply #437 on: February 26, 2011, 05:08:30 PM »
You can learn corrupt spells without being evil.
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Re: Fun Finds!
« Reply #438 on: March 02, 2011, 09:57:36 AM »
Just found an AMAZING feat in Fiendish Codex 2: Divine Defiance.  If you have Dispel Magic memorized (or the spell being cast), you can spend a Turn/Rebuke attempt as an immediate action to counter any spell or spell like ability being cast.  You have to make a Spellcraft check to identify the spell successfully when you do this.  

Is it just me, or is this a genuine caster killer feat? Combo it with Tenebrous as a Binder and now you can shut down casters rather decisively (since generally taking out their first spell really screws them).

This makes the old Binder 1/Archivist 3/Anima Mage 10/Tenebrous Apostate 5/Tainted Sorcerer 1 build that much more crazy.  The Cleric version ain't half bad either.

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Re: Fun Finds!
« Reply #439 on: March 02, 2011, 10:15:04 AM »
Just found an AMAZING feat in Fiendish Codex 2: Divine Defiance.  If you have Dispel Magic memorized (or the spell being cast), you can spend a Turn/Rebuke attempt as an immediate action to counter any spell or spell like ability being cast.  You have to make a Spellcraft check to identify the spell successfully when you do this.  

Is it just me, or is this a genuine caster killer feat? Combo it with Tenebrous as a Binder and now you can shut down casters rather decisively (since generally taking out their first spell really screws them).

This makes the old Binder 1/Archivist 3/Anima Mage 10/Tenebrous Apostate 5/Tainted Sorcerer 1 build that much more crazy.  The Cleric version ain't half bad either.

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It sure beats the pants off most other counterspell builds.
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