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snakeman830

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Edgeworth begs to differ.
I counterpoint thusly.
I object to your counterpoint!
I have a rather obvious objection to that one.
Order! I will have order!
Mmmh tea.
yes, tea is nice.
But whips are bitter.
...and now all I can think about is amusing combinations of whips and tea.  whipped cream might have to be a factor.
Whos your papa?
apperently a guy named crusher. thematic, is it not?
Herr Chords of Steel requests the stand. I CAN SEE YOU TWITCH!
you make a valid point.
I believe we are in agreement, then.
apperently this quote pyramid makes DMs attack us without a save. cool.
Clearly we have reached the point where only rampant and unchecked stabbing can save us.
we reached that point a long time ago.
*insert joke about quotamid and penis growth here* Now can we get back on topic?
huh, it appears that solo's latent /quote trap has gotten you.
youve-activated-my-trap-card.jpg
Activate my trap card, why don't you?
I didn't actually like that anime, for some reason. yet I cannot escape people quoting it.
I spelled site wrong.
As if internet posters actually worried about morality.
Without morality, we are undone.
I have an objection to your statement.
I object to your objection!
I counterpoint your counterpoint, with yet another counter point! Also, your cunning trap won't work on me!
Where has the thread gone?
I don't know, but I just now got the horrible pun that comes from the context of our conversation combined with my proclamation of not being fooled by a trap.
you are not cleared for that level of comprehension, citizen....
You seem to be missing a certain something in your arguments, a certain flare...
Moar?
did you just try to convert our precious quotamid into a picture?
Sorry to break the pyramid.
This is QUOTAMID!
yes, yes it is.
OBJECTION

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[spoiler]Masculine men like masculine things. Masculine men are masculine. Therefore, liking masculine men is masculine.

I dare anyone to find a hole in that logic.
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My awesome poster collection. (Warning, some are NSFW.)
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+1 Lycanthromancer
Which book is Lycanthromancer in?
Lyca ... is in the book. Yes he is.
 :D
shit.. concerning psionics optimization, lycan IS the book
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Edgeworth begs to differ.
I counterpoint thusly.
I object to your counterpoint!
I have a rather obvious objection to that one.
Order! I will have order!
Mmmh tea.
yes, tea is nice.
But whips are bitter.
...and now all I can think about is amusing combinations of whips and tea.  whipped cream might have to be a factor.
Whos your papa?
apperently a guy named crusher. thematic, is it not?
Herr Chords of Steel requests the stand. I CAN SEE YOU TWITCH!
you make a valid point.
I believe we are in agreement, then.
apperently this quote pyramid makes DMs attack us without a save. cool.
Clearly we have reached the point where only rampant and unchecked stabbing can save us.
we reached that point a long time ago.
*insert joke about quotamid and penis growth here* Now can we get back on topic?
huh, it appears that solo's latent /quote trap has gotten you.
youve-activated-my-trap-card.jpg
Activate my trap card, why don't you?
I didn't actually like that anime, for some reason. yet I cannot escape people quoting it.
I spelled site wrong.
As if internet posters actually worried about morality.
Without morality, we are undone.
I have an objection to your statement.
I object to your objection!
I counterpoint your counterpoint, with yet another counter point! Also, your cunning trap won't work on me!
Where has the thread gone?
I don't know, but I just now got the horrible pun that comes from the context of our conversation combined with my proclamation of not being fooled by a trap.
you are not cleared for that level of comprehension, citizen....
You seem to be missing a certain something in your arguments, a certain flare...
Moar?
did you just try to convert our precious quotamid into a picture?
Sorry to break the pyramid.
This is QUOTAMID!
yes, yes it is.
OBJECTION
Your combo has been broken. Please try again.
I reject your objection, and substitute my own.
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Final Fantasy 7
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Edgeworth begs to differ.
I counterpoint thusly.
I object to your counterpoint!
I have a rather obvious objection to that one.
Order! I will have order!
Mmmh tea.
yes, tea is nice.
But whips are bitter.
...and now all I can think about is amusing combinations of whips and tea.  whipped cream might have to be a factor.
Whos your papa?
apperently a guy named crusher. thematic, is it not?
Herr Chords of Steel requests the stand. I CAN SEE YOU TWITCH!
you make a valid point.
I believe we are in agreement, then.
apperently this quote pyramid makes DMs attack us without a save. cool.
Clearly we have reached the point where only rampant and unchecked stabbing can save us.
we reached that point a long time ago.
*insert joke about quotamid and penis growth here* Now can we get back on topic?
huh, it appears that solo's latent /quote trap has gotten you.
youve-activated-my-trap-card.jpg
Activate my trap card, why don't you?
I didn't actually like that anime, for some reason. yet I cannot escape people quoting it.
I spelled site wrong.
As if internet posters actually worried about morality.
Without morality, we are undone.
I have an objection to your statement.
I object to your objection!
I counterpoint your counterpoint, with yet another counter point! Also, your cunning trap won't work on me!
Where has the thread gone?
I don't know, but I just now got the horrible pun that comes from the context of our conversation combined with my proclamation of not being fooled by a trap.
you are not cleared for that level of comprehension, citizen....
You seem to be missing a certain something in your arguments, a certain flare...
Moar?
did you just try to convert our precious quotamid into a picture?
Sorry to break the pyramid.
This is QUOTAMID!
yes, yes it is.
this is madness, maybe a moderator will attack us without a save
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Edgeworth begs to differ.
I counterpoint thusly.
I object to your counterpoint!
I have a rather obvious objection to that one.
Order! I will have order!
Mmmh tea.
yes, tea is nice.
But whips are bitter.
...and now all I can think about is amusing combinations of whips and tea.  whipped cream might have to be a factor.
Whos your papa?
apperently a guy named crusher. thematic, is it not?
Herr Chords of Steel requests the stand. I CAN SEE YOU TWITCH!
you make a valid point.
I believe we are in agreement, then.
apperently this quote pyramid makes DMs attack us without a save. cool.
Clearly we have reached the point where only rampant and unchecked stabbing can save us.
we reached that point a long time ago.
*insert joke about quotamid and penis growth here* Now can we get back on topic?
huh, it appears that solo's latent /quote trap has gotten you.
youve-activated-my-trap-card.jpg
Activate my trap card, why don't you?
I didn't actually like that anime, for some reason. yet I cannot escape people quoting it.
I spelled site wrong.
As if internet posters actually worried about morality.
Without morality, we are undone.
I have an objection to your statement.
I object to your objection!
I counterpoint your counterpoint, with yet another counter point! Also, your cunning trap won't work on me!
Where has the thread gone?
I don't know, but I just now got the horrible pun that comes from the context of our conversation combined with my proclamation of not being fooled by a trap.
you are not cleared for that level of comprehension, citizen....
You seem to be missing a certain something in your arguments, a certain flare...
Moar?
did you just try to convert our precious quotamid into a picture?
Sorry to break the pyramid.
This is QUOTAMID!
yes, yes it is.
OBJECTION
Your combo has been broken. Please try again.
I reject your objection, and substitute my own.
this is madness, maybe a moderator will attack us without a save
we could always claim this is a dirty trick against moderators and admins....
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Along with embrace/shun the dark chaos, a single level in swordsage can get you an extra 6 feats. You get Weapon Focus with each weapon in a single school, so you take Setting Sun or Shadow Hand for 6 Weapon Focus feats.
[spoiler]Masculine men like masculine things. Masculine men are masculine. Therefore, liking masculine men is masculine.

I dare anyone to find a hole in that logic.
______________________________________
[/spoiler]I'm a writer. These are my stories. Some are even SFW! (Warning: Mostly Gay.)
My awesome poster collection. (Warning, some are NSFW.)
Agita's awesome poster collection.
[spoiler]
+1 Lycanthromancer
Which book is Lycanthromancer in?
Lyca ... is in the book. Yes he is.
 :D
shit.. concerning psionics optimization, lycan IS the book
[/spoiler]

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Along with embrace/shun the dark chaos, a single level in swordsage can get you an extra 6 feats. You get Weapon Focus with each weapon in a single school, so you take Setting Sun or Shadow Hand for 6 Weapon Focus feats.
verges on weapon proficiencies abuse, but gj. Citation?
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An interesting read, nice to see a civil discussion
The point of Spell Resistance is to make it harder to get buffed.
And healed. Don't forget that.
Huge amounts of people are fuckwits. That doesn't mean that fuckwit is a valid lifestyle.
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Your a shifter... you have all you ever need.
It blows MoMF out of the water

But if your greedy for more [Wish] for something that only effects you, like another class level or two that doesn't count against your ECL.
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Yes, I'm the 3.0 "Masters of the Wild" shifter, the awesome kind. My favorite form to take is Force Dragon. Yes, I am immortal ... My character is hands down the coolest guy in the campaign and there is nothing I could possibly want.
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Along with embrace/shun the dark chaos, a single level in swordsage can get you an extra 6 feats. You get Weapon Focus with each weapon in a single school, so you take Setting Sun or Shadow Hand for 6 Weapon Focus feats.
verges on weapon proficiencies abuse, but gj. Citation?
Tome of Battle, of course.

...
...
...
...

You want more? Okay, then.

Discipline Focus (Weapon Focus): At 1st level, you gain the benefit of the Weapon Focus feat for weapons associated with the chosen discipline. See the discipline descriptions in Chapter 4.
~ToB p. 16

By the way, unarmed swordsages also get Unarmed Strike. So that's 7.
[spoiler]Masculine men like masculine things. Masculine men are masculine. Therefore, liking masculine men is masculine.

I dare anyone to find a hole in that logic.
______________________________________
[/spoiler]I'm a writer. These are my stories. Some are even SFW! (Warning: Mostly Gay.)
My awesome poster collection. (Warning, some are NSFW.)
Agita's awesome poster collection.
[spoiler]
+1 Lycanthromancer
Which book is Lycanthromancer in?
Lyca ... is in the book. Yes he is.
 :D
shit.. concerning psionics optimization, lycan IS the book
[/spoiler]

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Gain the benefit of is different than getting the actual feat, though.
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How about this then: Be a warforged. Add the blueshine property to your composite plating (MIC p 9), and become immune to rust attacks and acid. Forever.
[spoiler]Masculine men like masculine things. Masculine men are masculine. Therefore, liking masculine men is masculine.

I dare anyone to find a hole in that logic.
______________________________________
[/spoiler]I'm a writer. These are my stories. Some are even SFW! (Warning: Mostly Gay.)
My awesome poster collection. (Warning, some are NSFW.)
Agita's awesome poster collection.
[spoiler]
+1 Lycanthromancer
Which book is Lycanthromancer in?
Lyca ... is in the book. Yes he is.
 :D
shit.. concerning psionics optimization, lycan IS the book
[/spoiler]

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That assumes that the warforged is equivalent to their suit of armor, which, well, would mean that a normal warforged would be able to be instagibbed by rust monsters.
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That assumes that the warforged is equivalent to their suit of armor, which, well, would mean that a normal warforged would be able to be instagibbed by rust monsters.
They kind of are. They're dealt pretty good damage by those things.

They're just more durable than a non-living metal object.
[spoiler]Masculine men like masculine things. Masculine men are masculine. Therefore, liking masculine men is masculine.

I dare anyone to find a hole in that logic.
______________________________________
[/spoiler]I'm a writer. These are my stories. Some are even SFW! (Warning: Mostly Gay.)
My awesome poster collection. (Warning, some are NSFW.)
Agita's awesome poster collection.
[spoiler]
+1 Lycanthromancer
Which book is Lycanthromancer in?
Lyca ... is in the book. Yes he is.
 :D
shit.. concerning psionics optimization, lycan IS the book
[/spoiler]

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An interesting read, nice to see a civil discussion
The point of Spell Resistance is to make it harder to get buffed.
And healed. Don't forget that.
Huge amounts of people are fuckwits. That doesn't mean that fuckwit is a valid lifestyle.
[/Spoiler]

Old Geezer's Law of Hobby Taste: The more objectively inconsequential a hobby is, the more disagreements within the community will be expressed in outrageously insulting, overblown, and ludicrously emotionally laden terms.

More Funny than Humble[Spoiler]
Quote from: PlzBreakMyCampaign
Your a shifter... you have all you ever need.
It blows MoMF out of the water

But if your greedy for more [Wish] for something that only effects you, like another class level or two that doesn't count against your ECL.
Quote from: hungryhungryhippo987
Yes, I'm the 3.0 "Masters of the Wild" shifter, the awesome kind. My favorite form to take is Force Dragon. Yes, I am immortal ... My character is hands down the coolest guy in the campaign and there is nothing I could possibly want.
PBMC gets a cookie for DotA r

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Step 1: Be an artificer or a caster that uses a lot of buffs or touch spells.

Step 2: Commission (or craft) a batch of aurorum dye arrows (for 4301 gp).

Step 3: Have them enhanced with spell storing.

Step 4: Fill them with lots of touch spells and buffs, and fire them from a bow.

Congratulations, now you can buff your party members and debuff your foes with a touch attack action, rather than a move action, and if you have Rapid Shot and Manyshot you can multi(de)buff all over the place, and can move around without having to get into the thick of things.

You also get to reuse those arrows over and over and over again.

Now, how do you get all of an artificers infusions down to a standard action?
« Last Edit: June 20, 2010, 10:38:46 PM by Lycanthromancer »
[spoiler]Masculine men like masculine things. Masculine men are masculine. Therefore, liking masculine men is masculine.

I dare anyone to find a hole in that logic.
______________________________________
[/spoiler]I'm a writer. These are my stories. Some are even SFW! (Warning: Mostly Gay.)
My awesome poster collection. (Warning, some are NSFW.)
Agita's awesome poster collection.
[spoiler]
+1 Lycanthromancer
Which book is Lycanthromancer in?
Lyca ... is in the book. Yes he is.
 :D
shit.. concerning psionics optimization, lycan IS the book
[/spoiler]

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Step 1: Be an artificer or a caster that uses a lot of buffs or touch spells.

Step 2: Commission (or craft) a batch of aurorum dye arrows (for 4301 gp).

Step 3: Have them enhanced with spell storing.

Step 4: Fill them with lots of touch spells and buffs, and fire them from a bow.

Congratulations, now you can buff your party members and debuff your foes with a touch attack action, rather than a move action, and if you have Rapid Shot and Manyshot you can multi(de)buff all over the place, and can move around without having to get into the thick of things.

You also get to reuse those arrows over and over and over again.

Now, how do you get all of an artificers infusions down to a standard action?
Action points. Also are 3rd party things are worth mentioning in this thread?
« Last Edit: June 20, 2010, 10:50:21 PM by Bastian »

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Action points.
I'll be using those action points pretty much every battle. There aren't enough for that. :-(

Also are 3rd party things are worth mentioning in this thread?
Probably not unless they're widely used, like Hyperconscious and Untapped Potential.
[spoiler]Masculine men like masculine things. Masculine men are masculine. Therefore, liking masculine men is masculine.

I dare anyone to find a hole in that logic.
______________________________________
[/spoiler]I'm a writer. These are my stories. Some are even SFW! (Warning: Mostly Gay.)
My awesome poster collection. (Warning, some are NSFW.)
Agita's awesome poster collection.
[spoiler]
+1 Lycanthromancer
Which book is Lycanthromancer in?
Lyca ... is in the book. Yes he is.
 :D
shit.. concerning psionics optimization, lycan IS the book
[/spoiler]

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Action points.
I'll be using those action points pretty much every battle. There aren't enough for that. :-(

Unfettered heroism should solve that issue.

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Action points.
I'll be using those action points pretty much every battle. There aren't enough for that. :-(

Unfettered heroism should solve that issue.
Good call, that.

I'm glad I have access to Races of Eberron.
[spoiler]Masculine men like masculine things. Masculine men are masculine. Therefore, liking masculine men is masculine.

I dare anyone to find a hole in that logic.
______________________________________
[/spoiler]I'm a writer. These are my stories. Some are even SFW! (Warning: Mostly Gay.)
My awesome poster collection. (Warning, some are NSFW.)
Agita's awesome poster collection.
[spoiler]
+1 Lycanthromancer
Which book is Lycanthromancer in?
Lyca ... is in the book. Yes he is.
 :D
shit.. concerning psionics optimization, lycan IS the book
[/spoiler]