Board Challenge: Can You Qualify For These Prestige Classes?

[PlzBreakMyCampaign]

Can You Qualify For These Prestige Classes?

This is ONLY for people who have not used The Prerequisite and Early Entry Handbook as a cheat sheet.


Rules: (I'm quite serious about the first part of #2)

0) Cheese is welcome! Try to enter each imaginary 10 level PrC and make it to completion before ECL21!

1) Don't look up any answers in my Prerequisite and Early Entry Handbook.

2) Please start all posts with "I haven't read The PBMC PrC Cheat Sheet," name your tier and "[/spoiler]" your answers!

3) All non-ascended, non-epic builds will be considered, as long as they don't use consumption methods like DocRoc's last lovely giant joint build.



Good luck.

[PlzBreakMyCampaign]

Tier 4, aka Light Cheese:
Conglomeration 1

Special: size colossal or larger (hulking hurler)
Languages: any four (master of masks)
Base save bonus: Highest base save bonus must be lower than character level
Special: Must have darkvision as a racial trait or class feature (darkrunner)

Conglomeration 2

Fighter level 10th
Feats: 5 metamagic feats

[PlzBreakMyCampaign]

Tier 3, aka Moderate Cheese:
Conglomeration 1

Special: Base Size huge or larger (hulking hurler)
Special: Outsider type (Fiend of Possession)
Weapon proficiency: Must be proficient with all martial weapons (eldritch knight)
Speak Language druid [oops - repeated below] Special: flurry of blows (drunken master)
Language: Terran Gnome [its funnier cuz gnomes don't like big things]
Special: Flight extraordinary ability (Stormtalon)
Base Saves 7 5 (Initiate of Sophis)
Special: must have a favored enemy
Special: Must be a specialist wizard [oops - repeated below] Special: Mind blade (Illumine soul)
Special: must be a cleric or paladin of Pelor (shadowspy)

Conglomeration 2

Warlock Invocation: Must knowbrimstone blast or hellrime blast
Meldshaping: Meldshaper level 4th (witchborn binder)
Psionics: Manifester Level 5th (Thrallherd)
Essentia Pool: 3 (saphire heirarch)
Martial Maneuvers: Must know one Iron Heart stike and one Iron Heart stance (Bloodstorm Blade)
Special: Ability to bind a 2nd-level Vestige (Anima Mage)
Shadowcasting: Able to cast 1st-level mysteries (Noctumancer)

Conglomeration 3

Fighter level 10th
Feats: 10 metamagic feats

[PlzBreakMyCampaign]

Tier 2, aka Heavy Cheese:
Conglomeration 1

Type: Magical Beast (mortal hunter)
Special: large size or larger (hulking hurler)
Subtype: Dragonblood (Disciple of the eye)
Race: must have aquatic or reptilian subtype (scaled horror)
Special: must have a favored enemy (Foe Hunter)
Special: Must be a specialist wizard
Domain: Trickery (Eye of Lolth)
Weapon proficiency: Must be proficient with all martial weapons (eldritch knight)
Speak Language druid (fochlucan lyrist)
Special: Flight extraordinary ability (Stormtalon)
Languages: any four (master of masks)
Iajistu focus 9 ranks
Special: 3d6 SA (slayer of dromiel)
Special: 3d6 Eldritch blast (Enlightened Spirit)
Special: Evasion
Special: Must have an animal companion
Special: Wild empathy
Special: Wild Shape ability (Nature's warrior)
Special: Turn undead (swift wing)
Special: bardic music 5/day (lyric Thaumaturge)
Special: bardic knowledge (fochlucan lyrist)
Spells: Sun domain (radiant servant of pelor)
Special: energy mantle or natural world mantle (storm disciple)
Special: Must have a familiar (Bonded Summoner)
Special: rage class feature (totem ranger)
Base save bonus: Will +12 (hidecarved dragon)
Base Attack Bonus 7 (Defender of sealteal)
4 skills at 10, 3 at 5 (dungeon delver)
Special: trapfinding (combat trapsmith)
Special: DR 5/magic (Sacred Warder)

Conglomeration 2

Spells: Able to cast 7th-level divine spells (heirophant)
4th level Divine AND arcane casting (Prophet of Erathaol)
Psionics: Ability to manifest a 7th-level power, knowledge of 4th-level or higher powers from at least 3 psionic disciplines (Arch Psion)
Meldshaping: ability to bind soulmelds to crown, feet and hand chakras (necrocarnate)
Meldshaping: Ability to shape three soulmelds (Soul Manifester)
Special: ability to bind soulmelds to totem chakra (totem ranger)
Martial Maneuvers: Must know 3 tiger claw maneuvers (Bloodclaw Master)
Martial Maneuvers: Must know atleast 2 Stone Dragon maneuvers and one stone Dragon stance (Deepstone Sentinel)
Martial Maneuvers: Must know at least one maneuver from six different disciplines (Master of Nine)
Special: Ability to bind Dantalion (Scion of Dantalion)

Conglomeration 3

Special: May not possess any arcane spellcasting class levels (witchborn binder)
Spells: Able to cast 6th-level arcane spells (archmage)

Conglomeration 4

Special: must put out central antimagic eye (Beholder Mage)
Special: ECL14 (Legacy Champion) [Enter the 10 deep PrC as your 11th class level & finish it pre-epic]

[PlzBreakMyCampaign]

Tier 1, aka Unacceptable Cheese requiring one of a very limited number of tricks:
Conglomeration 1

Race: Orc or Half-Orc
Special: May not have orc blood or subtype

Conglomeration 2

Alignment: LG
Special: Must be able to Rebuke Undead.

Conglomeration 3

Type: Fey
Type: Giant
Able to cast seventh level arcane spells
Extraordinary fly speed with perfect maneuverability.

Conglomeration 4

Special: May not possess any arcane or divine spellcasting class levels (witchborn binder)
Special: May not possess the heighten metamagic feat
Spells: Able to cast 6th-level arcane spells (archmage)

[PlzBreakMyCampaign]

Feel free to post a tier-numbered theoretical PrC after you have answered my example one of like tier.

Info for making your own:

• Yes all these Prereqs are based off of REAL prereqs for something or other.
• No there doesn't need to be a PrC or something with the value of a prereq this high. Making a prereq of "Must have Ooze type with Orc subtype" is okay because other PrCs or feats have those categories of prereqs, even though none have that exact value.
• For all Tiers except 1 please include what has the sort of prereq in parentheses if it is not obvious

[KellKheraptis]

Tier 1, aka Unacceptable Cheese requiring one of a very limited number of tricks:
Conglomeration 1

Race: Orc or Half-Orc
Special: May not have orc blood or subtype

Oops...
[spoiler]Wouldn't a Changeling or Doppelganger get into this one really easily?[/spoiler]

[PlzBreakMyCampaign]

Pay attention to them spoilers everyone

[JaronK]

Tier 4, aka Light Cheese:
Conglomeration 1

Special: base size huge or larger (hulking hurler)
Languages: any four (master of masks)
Base save bonus: Highest base save bonus must be lower than character level
Special: Must have darkvision as a racial trait or class feature (darkrunner)
Type: Outsider (mortal hunter)

Tier 4, and yeah, I haven't read it.

[spoiler]Assimar Cloistered Cleric 7 with a high enough Int, Extend Spell, Persistant Spell, DMM:  Persistant Spell, persistant Righteous Might.[/spoiler]  Pretty straightforward, really.

JaronK

[JaronK]

Conglomeration 2

Alignment: LG
Special: Must be able to Rebuke Undead.

Tier 1, [spoiler]Dread Necromancer 1 who then changes alignment, or Cleric 6/Bone Knight 1 who happens to be Lawful Good[/spoiler]  That second answer isn't even cheesy at all. 

JaronK

[NiteCyper]

http://www.google.ca/search?q=plzbreakmycampaign+prerequisite+early+entry&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=mTl&filter=0 What handbook?

addendum: 31-01-2010, 17:22, -8 GMT, nor can I find it in your sig nor a forum sticky.

addendum 2: -8 GMT, 31-01-2010, 17:32, oh, I see it now. It's new. Please do the Shadowcraft Mage PrC.

[bearsarebrown]

I haven't read The PBMC PrC Cheat Sheet

Tier 1, Conglomeration 1

Race: Orc or Half-Orc
Special: May not have orc blood or subtype

[spoiler]Changling.[/spoiler]

Tier 1, Conglomeration 2

Alignment: LG
Special: Must be able to Rebuke Undead.

[spoiler]Dread Necromancer 1 with alignment shift.
Ur-Priest 2 with Dead God adaptation allowing for LG.[/spoiler]

Tier 2, Conglomeration 1
Ohh god[spoiler]Illithid Savant who eats another IS's brain. I don't know if you can enter IS by ECL 11 though.[/spoiler]

Tier 3, Conglomeration 1

Special: Base Size huge or larger (hulking hurler)
Special: Outsider Subtype (Fiend of Possession)
Weapon proficiency: Must be proficient with all martial weapons (eldritch knight)
Speak Language druid (fochlucan lyrist)
Language: Terran (Stonelord)
Special: Flight extraordinary ability (Stormtalon)
Base Saves 7 (Defender of sealteal)
Special: must have a favored enemy (Foe Hunter)
Special: Must be a specialist wizard
Special: must be a cleric or paladin of Pelor (shadowspy)

[spoiler]Raptorian (Ex Flight)
Otherworldly + Savage Species Rituals (there is a pay-as-you-go option in book) (Outsider with Evil Subtype)
Wizard 1 (Specialist)
Druid 1 (Speak Language)
Foe Hunter (Players Guide to Faerun) (Favored Enemy)
Cleric+ w/ Hero Domain (BAB and Giant Size for size)

OH! Huge base? That's crazy hard then. To get 7 BAB by level 11 you'll need to get Huge size in 4 levels. You can't do that! I can get it temporarily(even without magic) but not Base Size.[/spoiler]

Tier 4, Conglomeration 1
[spoiler]Dwarf with Giant Size Scroll[/spoiler]

[PlzBreakMyCampaign]

Tier 4, and yeah, I haven't read it.

[spoiler]Assimar Cloistered Cleric 7 with a high enough Int, Extend Spell, Persistant Spell, DMM:  Persistant Spell, persistant Righteous Might.[/spoiler]  Pretty straightforward, really.

JaronK

I'm right about to post it up now.

And note that it says Base size. If you get dispelled if go down to that base size... Hmm maybe its a little too hard. I'll swap around that part on Light and Medium cheese.

NiteCyper, I am doing both simultaneous. Google hasn't gotten to it, I suspect.

Bearsarebrown, the DN class references the cleric class. I'm pretty sure that won't work but that is exactly the sort of out of the box thinking required for Tier 1's.

What about the Base Attack part and what Feat are you talking about (I'm ignorant of it). Also can you have to find the outsider you want to become and make sure you can afford the ritual at or before ECL11. Remember this is for 10 level deep PrCs.

[Viletta Vadim]

I had an idea for tier 3 involving a half-fiend treant before I re-read that 'make it to completion by ECL21' part.  But the lines where it says 'Base Saves 7 (Defender of sealteal),' are those correct?  I'm looking at Defender of Sealteal in BoED and it reads BAB +7, but nothing about saves.

[bearsarebrown]

Bearsarebrown, the DN class references the cleric class. I'm pretty sure that won't work but that is exactly the sort of out of the box thinking required for Tier 1's.

What about the Base saves part and what Feat are you talking about (I'm ignorant of it). Also can you have to find the outsider you want to become and make sure you can afford the ritual at or before ECL11. Remember this is for 10 level deep PrCs.

Updated some stuff. And as said, Defender of Sealteal has BAB +7 as req, not saves.

[The_Mad_Linguist]

The tier 2 isn't hard, just boring amounts of nonsynergistic multiclassing.

[bearsarebrown]

The tier 2 isn't hard, just boring amounts of nonsynergistic multiclassing.

Agreed. That's why I gave up. I imagine the best way to do it would involve just a ton of single level dips.

[The_Mad_Linguist]

Tier 3, aka Moderate Cheese:

[spoiler]Outsider subtype? I assume you mean type.[/spoiler]


Tier 1 Challenge:

Type: Fey
Able to cast seventh level arcane spells
Extraordinary fly speed with perfect maneuverability.
Type: Giant

[bearsarebrown]

Tier 1 Challenge:
Type: Fey
Able to cast seventh level arcane spells
Extraordinary fly speed with perfect maneuverability.
Type: Giant

...both?

[Sinfire Titan]

Threads like this are how I can tell I'm not hardcore.