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Re: How do you pull off a Schrödinger's cat schtick?
« Reply #20 on: February 01, 2010, 05:25:19 AM »
Of course, that requires a perfectly elastic ball and no loss of energy due to heat, right?

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Re: How do you pull off a Schrödinger's cat schtick?
« Reply #21 on: February 01, 2010, 06:40:06 AM »
Of course, that requires a perfectly elastic ball and no loss of energy due to heat, right?
No, the point is that in the process of calculating the distance a ball has traveled vertically by taking the sum of the height of the bounces, as long as it bounces by a fraction of its previous height, it will never stop bouncing. I presume bouncy balls stop bouncing because of extra factors, but in the case of theoretical mathematics for the sake of diminishing geometric sequence sums, the bouncy balls keep on bouncing as if the ""Aura of Chaos" stance + a shuriken (1d2-damage weapon) + the "Imbued Healing" feat" infinite damage trick forced you to keep rolling damage dice.

addendum: -8 GMT, 01-02-2010, 01:45, example 2: halve a piece of cheese, then again, indefinitely. There'll always be cheese there (screw atoms). Hey, I made an internal reference (while making a simultanous external reference)

addendum 2: -8 GMT, 01-02-2010, 01:47, I'm the man.

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Bill Nye - that episode about molecules and atoms
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Re: How do you pull off a Schrödinger's cat schtick?
« Reply #22 on: February 01, 2010, 11:10:50 AM »
And the idea behind the problem is much older though, it's one of Zeno of Elea's paradoxons.

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Re: How do you pull off a Schrödinger's cat schtick?
« Reply #23 on: February 01, 2010, 11:35:09 AM »
And the idea behind the problem is much older though, it's one of Zeno of Elea's paradoxons.
Right. And it wasn't "solved" until the invention of calculus.
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Re: How do you pull off a Schrödinger's cat schtick?
« Reply #24 on: February 01, 2010, 03:31:05 PM »
Kids, focus! How do I multiply my freakin' cat?!
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Re: How do you pull off a Schrödinger's cat schtick?
« Reply #25 on: February 01, 2010, 04:07:45 PM »
Find a bunch of mundane cats. Use Mindrape on your cat to learn everything your cat knows (might need an Autohypnosis check to accurately memorize it all). Use Mindrape on the normal cats to replace their minds with your cat's.

Alternately: Body Outside Body is persistable, right?

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Re: How do you pull off a Schrödinger's cat schtick?
« Reply #26 on: February 01, 2010, 05:43:00 PM »
Be a Wu Jen who takes the Complete Arcane feat Acquire Familiar, then BOB Cat.
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Re: How do you pull off a Schrödinger's cat schtick?
« Reply #27 on: February 02, 2010, 08:17:05 PM »
And the idea behind the problem is much older though, it's one of Zeno of Elea's paradoxons.
Right. And it wasn't "solved" until the invention of calculus.

I remember this coming up on the old TO-board.
I think the context was: LoP found Aleph Zero, but Aleph One has not been done.
I've no idea how a real Aleph One would be described effectively enough to this/these boards, or to prove it somehow isn't just an Aleph Zero.
It;s all over my pay-grade.

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Re: How do you pull off a Schrödinger's cat schtick?
« Reply #28 on: February 03, 2010, 11:44:01 AM »
Also, to have the cat in two places at once, create two teleporting traps that port to each other, and since said teleporting happens instantaneously, cat is in two places at once. Or 17 places at once if you build 17 teleportation traps.

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Re: How do you pull off a Schrödinger's cat schtick?
« Reply #29 on: February 03, 2010, 11:48:48 AM »
Also, to have the cat in two places at once, create two teleporting traps that port to each other, and since said teleporting happens instantaneously, cat is in two places at once. Or 17 places at once if you build 17 teleportation traps.

Something close to this?  :smirk


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Re: How do you pull off a Schrödinger's cat schtick?
« Reply #30 on: February 03, 2010, 02:36:13 PM »
Thing is he doesn't want a Quantummechanical effect, but a straight up multiplication of his cat into several "real" entities

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Re: How do you pull off a Schrödinger's cat schtick?
« Reply #31 on: February 03, 2010, 03:31:39 PM »
Should have named the trick better then. The quantum effect is the famous one, except to people who have watched a certain(abeit popular) anime.
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Re: How do you pull off a Schrödinger's cat schtick?
« Reply #32 on: February 03, 2010, 03:53:47 PM »
I hate to bring him up, but Pun-pun is all types and subtypes simultaneously, so there must be some paradoxes in there, like whether he both does and does not have a constitution score.

There's that epic spell that shoots you forward in time a round or something, maybe something wacky can be done with your familiar using that.

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Re: How do you pull off a Schrödinger's cat schtick?
« Reply #33 on: February 03, 2010, 03:59:34 PM »
So...try to ascend the kitty?
The mind transcends the body.
It's also a little cold because of that.
Please get it a blanket.

I wish I could read your mind,
I can barely read mine.

"Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. At 2:15, it begins rolling up characters."

[spoiler]
"Just what do you think the moon up in the sky is? Everyone sees that big, round shiny thing and thinks there must be something round up there, right? That's just silly. The truth is much more awesome than that. You can almost never see the real Moon, and its appearance is death to humans. You can only see the Moon when it's reflected in things. And the things it reflects in, like water or glass, can all be broken, right? Since the moon you see in the sky is just being reflected in the heavens, if you tear open the heavens it's easy to break it~"
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Hekatonkatis kai khiliakis astrapsato.
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Re: How do you pull off a Schrödinger's cat schtick?
« Reply #34 on: February 03, 2010, 04:57:23 PM »
Now, now, I'm trying to look for something practical here...

Though I admit the thread can't really be considered "derailed", and changing the name at this point would be confusing.  :P
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Re: How do you pull off a Schrödinger's cat schtick?
« Reply #35 on: February 04, 2010, 12:31:17 AM »
well, there are plenty of ways to do the multiplying thing if you are the cat, but I highly doubt that would help you. Maybe you could give us some context?

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Re: How do you pull off a Schrödinger's cat schtick?
« Reply #36 on: February 04, 2010, 12:32:50 AM »
Magic Jar the cat. Cast Shapechange. Turn into a Protean Scourge. Hit yourself a few times. End Shapechange. End Magic Jar.
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Re: How do you pull off a Schrödinger's cat schtick?
« Reply #37 on: February 04, 2010, 09:33:16 AM »
well, there are plenty of ways to do the multiplying thing if you are the cat, but I highly doubt that would help you. Maybe you could give us some context?

I'm just looking for a way to multiply a cat familiar (could be done with anything, really). 

Magic Jar the cat. Cast Shapechange. Turn into a Protean Scourge. Hit yourself a few times. End Shapechange. End Magic Jar.

Why Magic Jar the cat? Wouldn't sharing the spell work?
Gendou Ikari is basically Gregory House in Kaminashades. This is FACT.

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http://www.layoutjelly.com/image_27/gendo_ikari/

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Re: How do you pull off a Schrödinger's cat schtick?
« Reply #38 on: February 04, 2010, 11:05:08 AM »
Why Magic Jar the cat? Wouldn't sharing the spell work?
Yeah, if it's your familiar.
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