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alternative ways to get new class skills
« on: January 03, 2010, 10:20:27 PM »
This was originally compiled by Griff over at 339. I'll do my best to keep it updated.


o Any

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o Appraiseo Balanceo Bluffo Climbo Concentration
o Craft

o Decipher Script

o Diplomacyo Disable Deviceo Disguiseo Escape Artisto Forgeryo Gather Informationo Handle Animal

o Healo Hideo Intimidateo Jumpo Knowledgeo Listeno Move Silentlyo Open Locko Performo Profession


o Ride


o Searcho Sense Motiveo Sleight Of Hand


o Speak Languageo Spellcraft

Keeper of forbidden lore [abyssal heritor] - Feindish codex 1 (also know: planes)


o Spoto Survivalo Swimo Tumbleo Use Magic Device

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Cleric domains which grant new class skills:


Appraise

Pact - Spell compendium (also Intimidate, sense motive)
Wealth - Spell compendium.


Bluff

Baator [planar] - Spell compendium
Dragon - Spell compendium (also Intimidate)
Envy - Spell compendium
Trickery - PHB (also disguise and hide)


Disable Device

Kobold - here (also search and trapfinding ability)


Disguise

Trickery - PHB (also bluff and hide)


Hide

Trickery - PHB (also bluff and Disguise)


Intimidate

Abyss [planar] - Spell compendium
Dragon - Spell compendium (also Bluff)
Herald - BOED
Pact - Spell compendium (also appraise, sense motive)


Knowledge

All: knowledge - PHB
Nature: Animal - PHB
Nature: Plant - PHB


Search

Kobold - here (also Disable device and trapfinding ability)


Sense Motive

Celestia [planar] - Spell compendium
Pact - Spell compendium (also appraise, intimidate)


Survival

Arborea [planar] - Spell compendium
Travel - PHB
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Re: alternative ways to get new class skills
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2010, 10:24:56 PM »
Wasn't there a feat called Versatile or Versatile Mind that added any two?  And also, the 3.0 version of Cosmopolitan added two.
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Re: alternative ways to get new class skills
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2010, 10:27:10 PM »
I'm fairly sure there is a OA feat that adds any one. There isn't.

Also, why isn't this in the Handbook section?
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Re: alternative ways to get new class skills
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2010, 10:49:39 PM »
I've seen Cosmopolitan in some FR book, but if it's 3.0 or 3.5 I'm not sure.
IIRC though, it was one skill, not two.

So perhaps the 3.0 version was 2 and the 3.5 is 1.
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Re: alternative ways to get new class skills
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2010, 11:04:25 PM »
Versatile is a feat in the Rokugan campaign setting book (p.55) that grants 2 class skills. I think it's 3.0 though.

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Re: alternative ways to get new class skills
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2010, 12:48:34 AM »
I'm pretty sure Rokugan Campaign Setting is third-party.

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Re: alternative ways to get new class skills
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2010, 05:27:00 AM »
Also, why isn't this in the Handbook section?
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Also, Uldra race (Frostburn) has Knowledge (Nature) and Speak Language as a class skills.
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Re: alternative ways to get new class skills
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2010, 11:00:29 AM »
Factotum gains all skills as class skills with a single level, combine with able learner for more fun.
First off, the Joker is a smooth operator. He is very good at convincing people of things, twisting them to further his goals. This is the guy who turned Harvy Dent into Two Face with a simple Bluff check and ten minutes of RP.

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Re: alternative ways to get new class skills
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2010, 12:48:53 PM »
Illumian (Races of Destiny) always has Speak Language as a class skill.
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Re: alternative ways to get new class skills
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2010, 12:56:06 PM »
The Skilled City-Dweller alternate class feature from the Cityscape web enhancement lets you trade Ride for Tumble, and Handle Animal for Gather Information, regardless of class.
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Re: alternative ways to get new class skills
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2010, 07:19:17 AM »
Edgewalker Sentinel feat (Secrets of Sarlona) grants Knowledge (planes) as class skill for rangers and scouts

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Re: alternative ways to get new class skills
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2010, 10:57:27 AM »
The 1st Level of Human Paragaon (Unearthed Arcana) also adds any class skill permanently to your list, if you desperatly need one. UMD for example.

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Re: alternative ways to get new class skills
« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2010, 06:30:22 AM »
Consider adding Guerrilla Scout and Guerrilla Warrior (Heroes of Battle) as special mention.

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Re: alternative ways to get new class skills
« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2010, 04:05:27 PM »
Human Paragon can select 10 skills at a time and can make one of them a class skills for all classes.
First off, the Joker is a smooth operator. He is very good at convincing people of things, twisting them to further his goals. This is the guy who turned Harvy Dent into Two Face with a simple Bluff check and ten minutes of RP.

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Re: alternative ways to get new class skills
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2010, 04:12:35 PM »
Shadow Shaper-ACF, UA, Illusionist. Hide as class skill.

Generic NPC classes (e.g. generic Spellcaster) chooses their class skills. Remember, having a class skill for at least one of your classes raises the max ranks you can put into that to character level + 3, forever. [Wed 2011-01-26T04:29:27-0500] Better than Factotum because the generic classes grant a bonus feat.
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Re: alternative ways to get new class skills
« Reply #15 on: November 06, 2010, 01:19:15 PM »
Skill Prodigy in Player's Guide to Kingdom of Kalamar. Gain Int Mod x Class Skills.

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Re: alternative ways to get new class skills
« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2010, 07:35:17 PM »
I think Jack of All Trades deserves honorable mention here. Its probably one of my favorite feats.
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Re: alternative ways to get new class skills
« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2011, 04:27:27 AM »
Feats
from smite to song (CoV 29) - add perform to paladin class skills
initiate of arvoreen (CoV 30) - add hide/move silently to halfling cleric/paladin skills
broken one monk sublevel (CoV 36) - heal and survival

Substitution levels
crescent moon knight paladin (CoV 37) - knowledge local impiltur
darksong knight fighter (CoV 38) - perform (dance)
dukar wizard (CoV 38) - swim
fangshield ranger (CoV 41) - diplomacy
holy judge paladin (CoV 44) - knowledge (the planes)
lion legionnaire (CoV 44) - knowledge (nature)
mystic fire knight paladin (CoV 45) - knowledge (arcana), spellcraft
noble heart paladin (CoV 46) - survival
red falcon paladin (CoV 48) - knowledge (history)
ruby rose knight paladin (CoV 49) - bluff and perform (some)
shadow sword ranger (CoV 49) - knowledge (history)
shooting star ranger (CoV 50) - knowledge (arcana), spellcraft
wary swordknight paladin (CoV 51) - listen and spot

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golden hands rogue - survival
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Re: alternative ways to get new class skills
« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2011, 09:08:32 AM »
Would it be worth mentioning that Pathfinder has a number of traits which grant class skills?
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And shouldn't this be in Handbooks?
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Re: alternative ways to get new class skills
« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2011, 04:14:54 PM »
A couple of obscure Monk ACF-like options: (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ebds/20041213a)

A Flayed Hand monk adds Intimidate to her list of class skills. However, while her devotional marks are visible, she suffers a -2 circumstance penalty on Diplomacy or Gather Information checks.

Knowledge (local) and Knowledge (history) are class skills for shaarat'khesh monks. These take the place of Knowledge (arcana) and Knowledge (religion).
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