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Re: Ask a Simple Question: The Revenge of the Grue
« Reply #280 on: January 12, 2010, 01:01:26 AM »
Divine Insight is not an arcane spell, and so can't be put into an Eternal Wand in the first place, IIRC.

Minor Schema solves that problem right? It's an Eternal Wand but 1/day and works for divine IIRC. Magic of Eberron.
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Q76 What are a Sword Archon's swords? Are they natural weapons? He has a BAB of 11 and, as a full attack, can make two 'main-hand' Armbalde attacks.
Are they both at his full BAB? Or iterative? God knows... that's a weird creature.

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Q77 Can SLA's qualify you for prestige classes? Also, do they count as spontaneous casting?
They can qualify for ones that require you to cast specific spells, but not X level spells in general. I'm not sure about the second part.

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Re: Ask a Simple Question: The Revenge of the Grue
« Reply #281 on: January 12, 2010, 01:13:38 AM »
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Q77 Can SLA's qualify you for prestige classes? Also, do they count as spontaneous casting?
They can qualify for ones that require you to cast specific spells, but not X level spells in general. I'm not sure about the second part.

It's in BoED(my favorite... 0:) ) Yes, both are at full BAB. So I think that solidifies that they're Natural Attacks. Which means IUS allows for interatives...  :hmm

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Re: Ask a Simple Question: The Revenge of the Grue
« Reply #282 on: January 12, 2010, 01:24:02 AM »
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Q77 Can SLA's qualify you for prestige classes? Also, do they count as spontaneous casting?
They can qualify for ones that require you to cast specific spells, but not X level spells in general. I'm not sure about the second part.

It's in BoED(my favorite... 0:) ) Yes, both are at full BAB. So I think that solidifies that they're Natural Attacks. Which means IUS allows for interatives...  :hmm
Not quite. IUS allows for iteratives with an "unarmed strike", which does crap damage, even if you have sword arms. To get iteratives with true natural weapons, you need the Rapidstrike feat chain.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: The Revenge of the Grue
« Reply #283 on: January 12, 2010, 02:21:52 AM »
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Q77 Can SLA's qualify you for prestige classes? Also, do they count as spontaneous casting?
They can qualify for ones that require you to cast specific spells, but not X level spells in general. I'm not sure about the second part.

It's in BoED(my favorite... 0:) ) Yes, both are at full BAB. So I think that solidifies that they're Natural Attacks. Which means IUS allows for interatives...  :hmm
Not quite. IUS allows for iteratives with an "unarmed strike", which does crap damage, even if you have sword arms. To get iteratives with true natural weapons, you need the Rapidstrike feat chain.

Oh, I know. I meant in addition to the Swords. Feats/Items can make the unarmed strike not crap damage.

Yeah I'm full of questions today. Q78 What happens if you get a domain power based of Cleric level and you have no cleric levels? Is it just useless?

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Re: Ask a Simple Question: The Revenge of the Grue
« Reply #284 on: January 12, 2010, 02:23:02 AM »
Q78 What happens if you get a domain power based of Cleric level and you have no cleric levels? Is it just useless?
Yes, unless you have a very nice DM.  :D
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: The Revenge of the Grue
« Reply #285 on: January 12, 2010, 02:24:54 AM »
Q79: What book is the Sharn from?

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« Reply #286 on: January 12, 2010, 03:24:23 AM »
q 80 I'm having a bit of a disagreement with my DM. How many domains does the Cloistered Cleric have all at once, and what are the abilities gained by the Knowledge Domain?
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« Reply #287 on: January 12, 2010, 03:51:04 AM »
Q79: What book is the Sharn from?
A79: Anuaroch: the empire of shade

A80: Three domains, one of which must be knowledge.  Knowledge domain gives all knowledge skills as class skills and has some spells - look it up.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: The Revenge of the Grue
« Reply #288 on: January 12, 2010, 03:53:33 AM »
A80: Three domains, one of which must be knowledge.  Knowledge domain gives all knowledge skills as class skills and has some spells - look it up.
I did. I even quoted the SRD. I needed verification aside from that so he couldn't say I was interpreting it in my own way so as to make it beneficial to me. Runner up question:
Q 81 Those knowledge skills that you gain, does that only work for the cleric, or do your additional classes get affected by that too?
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: The Revenge of the Grue
« Reply #289 on: January 12, 2010, 04:01:42 AM »
A81: Only to your class skill list as a Cleric.

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Re: Ask a Simple Question: The Revenge of the Grue
« Reply #290 on: January 12, 2010, 04:02:30 AM »
A81: Only to your class skill list as a Cleric.
So if you're cloistered, it's essentially moot because you get them anyways.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: The Revenge of the Grue
« Reply #291 on: January 12, 2010, 04:32:43 AM »
A81: Only to your class skill list as a Cleric.
So if you're cloistered, it's essentially moot because you get them anyways.

It's not moot:
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Class Skills

The cloistered cleric's class skill list includes Decipher Script, Speak Language, and all Knowledge skills (from the Knowledge domain, see below). The cloistered cleric gains skill points per level equal to 6 + Int modifier (and has this number x4 at 1st level).
So if you trade it for knowledge devotion you don't get it.

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Re: Ask a Simple Question: The Revenge of the Grue
« Reply #292 on: January 12, 2010, 04:42:26 AM »
A81: Only to your class skill list as a Cleric.
So if you're cloistered, it's essentially moot because you get them anyways.

It's not moot:
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Class Skills

The cloistered cleric's class skill list includes Decipher Script, Speak Language, and all Knowledge skills (from the Knowledge domain, see below). The cloistered cleric gains skill points per level equal to 6 + Int modifier (and has this number x4 at 1st level).
So if you trade it for knowledge devotion you don't get it.
I see now. I misinterpreted that. I thought he got it regardless. That's good to know.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: The Revenge of the Grue
« Reply #293 on: January 12, 2010, 10:15:08 AM »
A80: Three domains, one of which must be knowledge.  Knowledge domain gives all knowledge skills as class skills and has some spells - look it up.
I did. I even quoted the SRD. I needed verification aside from that so he couldn't say I was interpreting it in my own way so as to make it beneficial to me. Runner up question:
Q 81 Those knowledge skills that you gain, does that only work for the cleric, or do your additional classes get affected by that too?
Straight from UA (Just in case, as the SRD can contain errors):
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Deity, Domains, and Domain Spells: Most cloistered clerics worship deities associated with knowledge and learning, including (but not necessarily limited to) Boccob, Vecna, and Wee Jas. Other deities who might have cloistered clerics among their clergy include Corellon Larethian, Moradin, Pelor, and Yondalla.
, a cloistered cleric automatically gains Knowledge as a bonus domain (even if Knowledge is not normally available to clerics of that deity). He gains the Knowledge domain granted power and may select his bonus domain spell from the Knowledge domain or from one of his two regular domains.
Emphasis mine. Doesn't leave a lot open to interpretation.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: The Revenge of the Grue
« Reply #294 on: January 12, 2010, 12:06:25 PM »
A81: Only to your class skill list as a Cleric.
So if you're cloistered, it's essentially moot because you get them anyways.

It's not moot:
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Class Skills

The cloistered cleric's class skill list includes Decipher Script, Speak Language, and all Knowledge skills (from the Knowledge domain, see below). The cloistered cleric gains skill points per level equal to 6 + Int modifier (and has this number x4 at 1st level).
So if you trade it for knowledge devotion you don't get it.
I see now. I misinterpreted that. I thought he got it regardless. That's good to know.
Yeah, I felt the pinch on this one when I traded out the Knowledge Domain on my CCleric for Divine Magician, and then later wanted to be the party's "knowledge guy". :D Although, even with only 1 rank (cross class), I can still do decently well with Collector of Stories + Lore of the Gods, and if I really need to make one, I can whip out Guidance of the Avatar. :P
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: The Revenge of the Grue
« Reply #295 on: January 12, 2010, 12:15:03 PM »
Q 71: Dex, Wis, and Int have Necrotic Empowerment and Wis has Owl's Inspiration or whatever the one is that adds a massive insight bonus to Wis.  What's the highest boost Cha can get?  Can it match those three, let alone Str?
Well, nothing can match str buffs (diseases and shocking, of course). There are a bunch of +cha spells, but they all appear to be enhancement, or don't boost nearly similar to NE or Owl's Insight, that I have found, aside from Greater Visage of the Deity (Which is a +4 if good, +2 if evil, with a possible +8/+6 instead, depending on how your DM reads the interaction between Lesser VotD and Greater VotD's Charisma boosting, it may be unnamed, or enhancement, by that same token). Anyone else have any more?
Add in fell energy spell and the ability enhancer feat for an additional +4.
Nixie's Grace is another one. It's enhancement, but a base of +8, so +12 with those two feats...
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They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.

Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.

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Re: Ask a Simple Question: The Revenge of the Grue
« Reply #296 on: January 12, 2010, 12:16:13 PM »
Does that to AC or Saves, like sirine's grace?  Guess there's no harm in casting both, though, even if the enhancements don't stack.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: The Revenge of the Grue
« Reply #297 on: January 12, 2010, 12:18:44 PM »
Does that to AC or Saves, like sirine's grace?  Guess there's no harm in casting both, though, even if the enhancements don't stack.
swim 30, water breathing, low-light vision, DR 5/cold iron, +6 Dex, +2 Wis, and +8 Cha. Bard 6, iirc, though.
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Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY!
They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.

Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.

Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: The Revenge of the Grue
« Reply #298 on: January 12, 2010, 02:09:00 PM »
Does that to AC or Saves, like sirine's grace?  Guess there's no harm in casting both, though, even if the enhancements don't stack.
swim 30, water breathing, low-light vision, DR 5/cold iron, +6 Dex, +2 Wis, and +8 Cha. Bard 6, iirc, though.

And Cha as Insight o AC. Barb 5 I think.

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Re: Ask a Simple Question: The Revenge of the Grue
« Reply #299 on: January 12, 2010, 02:38:17 PM »
Q82: I remember somewhere a quick/easy Summon Monster list of some sort with stats and what not. Now i would find it very useful. Anybody happen to have a copy/know where it is?