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The Domain Fighter?
« on: December 16, 2009, 08:56:17 PM »
So as I was trying to keep myself awake so I wouldn't sleep through my final today I was messing around with D&D builds and this sort of struck me as I glossed over divine crusader. It's a 10 level PrC in the complete divine that gives 9th divine casting for domain spells only. Naturally they only get 1 spell, but we know there are ways around that.

 So how about we get a Pouncing Dungeon Crashing Fighter that happens to have 12 domains at his disposal?

Human Lion Totem Barbarian 1/Fighter 6/Divine Crusader 1/Sovereign Speaker 9/Contemplative 1/Divine Oracle 2
1) Educated, Wolf Berserker
2) Improved Trip
3) Combat Reflexes
4) Weapon Focus: Halberd
6) Worldy Focus
9) Intimidating Rage
12) Imperious Command
15) Robliar's Gambit
18) Skill Focus: Knowledge Religion

Domains: Travel, Celerity, Spell, Oracle, Luck, Pride, Commerce, Charm, Competition, Transformation*/Time
Devotions: Animal, Knowledge, Strength, Law
*Can a contemplative take this? He's not a shapechanger, but the contemplative lets you take one of any domain. This is domain is on crack though, Enlarge Person, Alter Self, Gaseous Form, Involuntary Shapeshifting, Polymorph, Baleful Polymorph, Doppleganer Transformation, Polymorph Any Object!, Shapechange~!!!! +1 CL to these spells too.

 I dunno, what do you guys think of this guy?

EDIT: Picked out some better domain spells.
« Last Edit: December 16, 2009, 09:40:52 PM by DerWille »

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Re: The Domain Fighter?
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2009, 09:09:42 PM »
contemplative lets you take any domain within a small restriction of diety if you have one andalaignment so no evil if you are good and yada yada.  so i would you say your in the clear with it and i would let it go


nice find by the way
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Re: The Domain Fighter?
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2009, 09:22:21 PM »
Thanks, I was thinking, it might be a better idea to drop the intimidating rage + imperious command for practiced spellcaster and spontaneous domain. Be able to cast any spell of those domains at CL 17 would definitely be worth it. It'd reduce the mad a bit too.

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Re: The Domain Fighter?
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2009, 11:36:56 PM »
With a feat to change divine to arcane casting, you can combine this with rainbow servant and be a less badass ur-priest.
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« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2009, 11:41:13 PM »
With a feat to change divine to arcane casting, you can combine this with rainbow servant and be a less badass ur-priest.
How about the Shadow Domain and Shadowcraft Mage? :P
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Re: The Domain Fighter?
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2009, 01:45:38 AM »
With a feat to change divine to arcane casting, you can combine this with rainbow servant and be a less badass ur-priest.

 What feat? And I'm not sure if that will help too much because this build already receives Divine Power, Righteous Might, and Miracle. I know those aren't the only great Cleric spells, but damn, what else does a fighter need? Also that loses out on some of those awesome domain powers.

 Does anyone know of any classes that grant domains/bonus feats for enhancing spell casting? Like something that lets me grab more practiced spell caster as a bonus feat.

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« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2009, 01:47:06 AM »
Southern magician.
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Re: The Domain Fighter?
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2009, 02:13:01 AM »
I'm having a hard time finding that one. Do you know what book it's in?

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Re: The Domain Fighter?
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2009, 05:12:58 AM »
http://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GGLS_enUS343US343&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=site:wizards.com+feats+list

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/lists/feats

 Thank you.

With a feat to change divine to arcane casting, you can combine this with rainbow servant and be a less badass ur-priest.

 No kidding about less of a bad ass Ur-Priest. I ran the build as Barbarian 1/Figher 6/Divine Crusader 3/Rainbow Servant 10 and he only gets 4 domains, 1 is terrible, 1 is mediocre, and the last is better as a devotion. The progression is awful too. 10 levels with barely any good spells. It'd be better to just go Ur-Priest instead of Rainbow Servant.

 I'm trying to think of some way to combine Divine Crusader with the Swiftblade and Abjurant Champion but it's hard. He needs to increase his spells known while keeping a 3/4ths progression. I'm thinking something like Barbarian 1/Fighter 6/Divine Crusader 1/Sovereign Speaker 3/Swiftblade 6/Abjurant Champion 3 but I dunno if the feats match up.

 The other idea is skip out on that and do Barbarian 1/Fighter 6/Divine Crusader 2/Prestige Paladin 1/Swift Blade 3/Sand Shaper 1/Swift Blade +6. This just barely nets 9th level spells.

 This PrC is challenging, but I'm starting to like it.


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Re: The Domain Fighter?
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2009, 10:58:14 AM »
Have you tried sovereign speaker?

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Re: The Domain Fighter?
« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2009, 11:04:37 AM »
It's apart of the main build in the first post. The other builds were trying to make more of an arcane focused Divine Crusader by using Southern Magician.

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Re: The Domain Fighter?
« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2009, 11:40:28 AM »
Your feats are off in the early levels, (although I realize that's not the point of this build :))

Human Lion Totem Barbarian 1/Fighter 6/Divine Crusader 1/Sovereign Speaker 9/Contemplative 1/Divine Oracle 2
1) Educated, Wolf Berserker Needs combat Expertise for Improved Trip or go Lion/Wolf Totem Barb 2.
2) Improved Trip
3) Combat Reflexes
5) Weapon Focus: Halberd

I can't make productive comments on the rest, except, I'm impressed. I always thought The Divine Crusader makes no sense, well, now he does.

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Re: The Domain Fighter?
« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2009, 11:56:38 AM »
Thanks man, I appreciate it.

He doesn't need combat expertise. Wolf Berserker gives a +4 to trip and waives the prereqs for improved trip.

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Re: The Domain Fighter?
« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2009, 12:51:11 PM »
Thanks man, I appreciate it.

He doesn't need combat expertise. Wolf Berserker gives a +4 to trip and waives the prereqs for improved trip.
Ah, sorry, didn't realize that. Where is that from?

Edit: Got it, awesome feat! I have to use that, too, some day.
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Re: The Domain Fighter?
« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2009, 03:16:42 PM »
No problem man.

 I'm realizing Divine Crusader is actually a pretty awesome PrC when it's combined with Sovereign Speaker. And funny enough, Crusader is a natural fit with it because it starts with Knowledge Religion.

Human
Crusader 7/Divine Crusader 1/Sovereign Speaker 3/Contemplative 1/Sacred Exorcist 1/Adapted Ruby Knight Vindicator 7

Feats
1) Combat Reflexes, Stand Still
3) Weapon Focus: Halberd
6) Worldly Focus
9) Extra Granted Manuever
12) Quicken Spell
15) DMM: Quicken
18) Extra Turning

Domains: Celerity, Transformation, Competition, Luck, Good*
*I'd prefer not to get this one, but it's the only one that can get dispel evil needed for sacred exorcist (dismissal works too)

This build gets 9th level spells of Time Stop, Miracle, Greater Visage of the Deity, Shapechange, and Summon Monster IX. Other cool spells are Moment of Prescience, Divine Power, Righteous Might, Holy Word, Haste, and Freedom of Movement.

This build also gets 9th level maneuvers with an IL of 17.

 Damn I'm loving this PrC. This might be hand book worthy, maybe after I finish my module (1 more area left!!! Then creatures and maps).

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« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2009, 04:53:25 PM »
This build brings up a question: Just what happens when you have 13 full spellcasting levels in a 10-level casting class anyway?  -- Pteryx

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Re: The Domain Fighter?
« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2009, 04:57:07 PM »
not a lot?
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« Reply #18 on: December 17, 2009, 05:30:15 PM »
Buy that Skill focus from a magical location. Frog God's Fane or something like that.

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Re: The Domain Fighter?
« Reply #19 on: December 17, 2009, 06:13:48 PM »
You'll want more Cha synergy:

paladin5/pioustemplar4/divinecrusader1/fistofraziel10: 19 BAB, 8 smites/day as a 19th level paladin with extras via FoR

paladinoftyranny5/hexblade4/divinecrusader1/boneknight10: similar but with mount progression, better saves, and debuffing