Possible New Caster Break...

[KellKheraptis]

I really don't think Taint needs to be broken any further... I mean... it's as bad as it gets. Infinite CL? Feats for free?

Noone in their right minds uses Taint, anyway.

I've been slacking on my Taint homework, how do you get infinite CL from it? All I really know is that Tainted Scholar lets a Wizard dump Int.

Casting Tainted spells (anything you're casting by that point most likely) raises taint.  Doing nasty things with them raises taint.  You become more powerful by fucking shit up.  Now, I had only thought that applied to spell slots...if this thing can raise CL with it too...imagine that on a blaster (read : the hellfire warlock eldritch theurge/disciple ur-priest I'm working on now that's already at 8d6 EB + 24d6 Hellfire per blast...).

[Brainpiercing]

Hmm, I thought the main shtick of the tainted scholar was using Taint-score = CL. Or was it taint-score instead of dominant ability? I forgot, it's been a while since I looked at it. Either is fucked up.
So if you're undead that just means NI caster level just by casting more spells, UNLESS the default undead taint overrides that and cannot be circumvented or increased. If you're not undead it means you'll be insane really quick.

[Agita]

Hmm, I thought the main shtick of the tainted scholar was using Taint-score = CL. Or was it taint-score instead of dominant ability? I forgot, it's been a while since I looked at it. Either is fucked up.
So if you're undead that just means NI caster level just by casting more spells, UNLESS the default undead taint overrides that and cannot be circumvented or increased. If you're not undead it means you'll be insane really quick.

Besides the standard casting advancement description, the only other Tainted Scholar ability which references caster level is, as far as I can tell, Blood Component, which raises your CL by one if you deal yourself 1 damage while casting the spell (Which can only be done 1/spell). So it's "just" NI bonus Spells and DC (And, I suppose, spell levels, if you're into cheesing yourself 1337th level spell slots).

[archangel.arcanis]

Taint why women rule the world 
Wait what not that taint....Oh TAINT why undead should rule the world got it.

[Anklebite]

  I am FAR from being in my right mind, despite being left handed (technically ambidextrous, but most of us lefties are...)

two things: left handed tends to mean right brained, and woooo!, another lefty CO-er!

[Bozwevial]

  I am FAR from being in my right mind, despite being left handed (technically ambidextrous, but most of us lefties are...)

two things: left handed tends to mean right brained, and woooo!, another lefty CO-er!

Make that 3.

[Akalsaris]

I actually run a relatively high-powered game with the taint rules.  So far none of my PCs have seriously broken it though, which surprised me. 

[awaken DM golem]

Arch.arca is being silly ... 

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Apostle of Peace with the OA taint Caster mechanics was one of the really weird versions.

Idk the differences between the OA taint caster and the HoH one.
If the HoH version is not an official update on the OA one, there might be some real silliness available.

[NeverGetDrunkButStaySober]

Heroes of Horror does update the general taint mechanics of OA, but effectively grandfathers in the taint-based classes themselves. Both maho-bujin (heh, Blood Wind) and maho-tsukai are implicitly permitted.

[KellKheraptis]

I looked into the Tainted Scholar, and from the looks of it some of the Secrets were the base abilities of the Tainted Sorcerer (blood metamagic and friends).  However...I didn't see the same restriction Loremaster has on taking the Secret that gives a feat.  Did I just miss it or is this true, and the reference to free feats cited earlier?  Also, can blood metamagic exceed maximum spell level akin to DMM (in other words, DMM using HP instead of turn attempts)?  I can divert HP damage, no problem...oh my this guy is turning evil fast 

[NeverGetDrunkButStaySober]

[KellKheraptis]

Actually : Long story short is Tainted Scholar is 1 level long

[NeverGetDrunkButStaySober]

*stuff*

Actually : Long story short is Tainted Scholar is 1 level long

Assuming that you can make the Will save to not take another level, yes.

[Tshern]

Spell levels are easy to acquire though, so no worries about that. Just used the shenanigans our lord and master LordofProcrastination did.

[KellKheraptis]

Spell levels are easy to acquire though, so no worries about that. Just used the shenanigans our lord and master LordofProcrastination did.

Would that be the portable hole glacier of spell levels or the chaotic spell recall break?

[PlzBreakMyCampaign]

This ability does not shield a hellbred from from losing access to class features if he violates a class's code of conduct. For example, using a +1 unholy longsword to slay orcs would not violate a hellbred paladin's code of conduct, though using the weapon to kill another paladin would."
Nowhere does it say you're immune to the effects of evil spells you or anyone else cast.

I always expected someone to half read it and claim something like

lol omg I'm awesome. Check this out guys
"a hellbred can cast spells with the evil descriptor and never gains negative levels while welding evil magic items"

Grab an unholy weapon and you're immune to negative levels. leet haxxors rolf rolf roflmao.

Awesome case and point to why I ignore all RAW complaints with semantics arguments.

I really don't think Taint needs to be broken any further... I mean... it's as bad as it gets. Infinite CL? Feats for free?

Noone in their right minds uses Taint, anyway.

The CL is actually NI infinite. Only 2 feats though. I'd allow it, except the approaching infinite stuff. That's always a red flag.

[awaken DM golem]

" ... I'd allow it, except the approaching infinite stuff. That's always a red flag ... "

Kill joy.

Oh, wait ... me too.

Apostle of Peace + Maho Tsukai = really weird spell interactions, but do-able.
I forget the details at this point, but both have very restricted spell lists, as to which exact spells get the Loop, well idk.
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