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What are they called?
« on: June 09, 2008, 07:22:23 PM »
We know the fighter-mage is called a gish, but what about a fighter-rogue? A mage-rogue?
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Re: What are they called?
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2008, 07:29:32 PM »
A fighter-rogue is called a Ranger or Scout.   ;)

A Mage-rogue would be called suboptimal, I suspect.
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Re: What are they called?
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2008, 07:29:54 PM »
Quote from: Prime32 on June 09, 2008, 07:22:23 PM
We know the fighter-mage is called a gish, but what about a fighter-rogue? A mage-rogue?

Thug for fighter/rogue.
Arcane Trickster for mage/rogue.

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Quote from: Redeemer of Ogar on June 09, 2008, 07:29:32 PM
A fighter-rogue is called a Ranger or Scout.   ;)

Right, a very good answer too.  Swashbuckler works here too. :)

Quote from: Redeemer of Ogar on June 09, 2008, 07:29:32 PM
A Mage-rogue would be called suboptimal, I suspect.

Yes, but see Unseen Seer, getting twice as much sneak attack as a normal rogue via spells and class features while having 19th or 20th level wizard casting is tech.

Edit2: Tshern Ninjaed my edit :(
« Last Edit: June 09, 2008, 07:33:52 PM by Rebel7284 »
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Re: What are they called?
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2008, 07:31:01 PM »
Or Unseen Seer...
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Re: What are they called?
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2008, 07:33:30 PM »
Quote from: Rebel7284 on June 09, 2008, 07:29:54 PM
Arcane Trickster for mage/rogue.
Well, it's called gish, not eldritch knight.
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Re: What are they called?
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2008, 07:35:15 PM »
Quote from: Prime32 on June 09, 2008, 07:33:30 PM
Quote from: Rebel7284 on June 09, 2008, 07:29:54 PM
Arcane Trickster for mage/rogue.
Well, it's called gish, not eldritch knight.


I'm aware, but I chose my first two answers based on how well they sounded not on how (sub)optimal the classes associated with them are. :)
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Re: What are they called?
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2008, 07:50:14 PM »
Where did 'gish' originate  ???

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the term*
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Re: What are they called?
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2008, 07:58:19 PM »
Quote from: Prime32 on June 09, 2008, 07:22:23 PM
We know the fighter-mage is called a gish, but what about a fighter-rogue? A mage-rogue?

Bob and Doug?

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Quote from: MFLABIAS on June 09, 2008, 07:50:14 PM
Where did 'gish' originate  ???

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the term*
It was originally used to describe the Githyanki fighter mages. I can't find the specific reference/publication, but I'm sure someone here can remember the specifics.
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Re: What are they called?
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2008, 08:22:14 PM »
I think gish dates back to 2E...
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Re: What are they called?
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2008, 06:39:59 AM »
Gish dates Back to the first edition Fiend Folio.  It means "Skilled" and refers to an arcane spellcaster who fights.  iirc it actually says that a Mage/Thief is a Gish.
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Re: What are they called?
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2008, 07:23:12 AM »
Wasn't gish a term originally used on githyanki fighter/wizards?
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Re: What are they called?
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2008, 07:55:13 AM »
Thats what I heard as well.
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Re: What are they called?
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2008, 07:57:48 AM »
It says it in the Monster Manual.
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Tier 5: An expert cartographer or a decent marksman.
Tier 4: An expert marksman.
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Tier 2: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything, or the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy.
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