Best Way to Abuse Int

[Sooner]

So for a new build I am thinking a Warblade 10/ Factotum 8 / Chameleon 2.

Game rules here
[spoiler]4d6 - Best 3
No LA buyoff
No Skill Tricks (CS)
No Homebrew
Books the DM isn't familiar with are subject to approval.
No Regens or Rerolls; you die and you are out.
55k gp to start with, might have access to some party funds[/spoiler]

Raise Intelligence ludicrously high and revel in the synergy. Perhaps a 1 level dip in cleric for knowledge, trickery, travel, celerity, or whatever else I want as a domain. That being said Warblade is more of a stand in. Any good classes that I can pick up that synergize well with Factotum / Chameleon. Preferably a damage dealer (caster or melee fine) and not a summoner (too much genning).

[bayar]

Wouldnt 3 levels of Swashbuckler get you some INT synergy as well ?

[KellKheraptis]

So for a new build I am thinking a Warblade 10/ Factotum 8 / Chameleon 2.

Game rules here
[spoiler]4d6 - Best 3
No LA buyoff
No Skill Tricks (CS)
No Homebrew
Books the DM isn't familiar with are subject to approval.
No Regens or Rerolls; you die and you are out.
55k gp to start with, might have access to some party funds[/spoiler]

Raise Intelligence ludicrously high and revel in the synergy. Perhaps a 1 level dip in cleric for knowledge, trickery, travel, celerity, or whatever else I want as a domain. That being said Warblade is more of a stand in. Any good classes that I can pick up that synergize well with Factotum / Chameleon. Preferably a damage dealer (caster or melee fine) and not a summoner (too much genning).

If you can get into Beholder Mage/have access to it, Factotem 8/Beholder Mage 1/Swiftblade 9/Abjurant Champion 2 gets you 9th arcanes, spontaneous with infinite spells known, 17 BAB, and cleric 9ths from being in the far more convenient Planatar or Solar forms for combat.  Not to mention two+whatever extra from blown Inspiration standard actions

[Sooner]

Wouldnt 3 levels of Swashbuckler get you some INT synergy as well ?

Yes but that is pseudo-Sneak Attack with no bonus in medium+ armor as well as only working with light weapons

Also would it be feasible to take a spellcaster to pair with that or would something with armor proficiences and higher BaB and HD be better?

f you can get into Beholder Mage/have access to it, Factotem 8/Beholder Mage 1/Swiftblade 9/Abjurant Champion 2 gets you 9th arcanes, spontaneous with infinite spells known, 17 BAB, and cleric 9ths from being in the far more convenient Planatar or Solar forms for combat.  Not to mention two+whatever extra from blown Inspiration standard actions Smile

You can have access to infinite 9th arcanes at level 10?

[PhaedrusXY]

Wouldnt 3 levels of Swashbuckler get you some INT synergy as well ?

Yes but that is pseudo-Sneak Attack with no bonus in medium+ armor as well as only working with light weapons

IIRC, it works with finessable weapons. Spiked chains are finessable.

Also would it be feasible to take a spellcaster to pair with that or would something with armor proficiences and higher BaB and HD be better?

My first thought upon reading the thread title was "Play a wizard".

You can have access to infinite 9th arcanes at level 10?

The build he listed wasn't level 10. It also didn't have infinite numbers of spells. It can cast spontaneously from the entire wizard list. So it basically has infinite spells known.

[KellKheraptis]

The level 10 version would be just that, the first 10 levels of the build.  Factotum 8/Beholder Mage 1/Swiftblade 1.  You wouldn't have the uber raw power of a Wizard 10, but you're taking two standards a round, with almost guaranteed extra precision damage.

[Rebel7284]

what's the starting level?

[Sooner]

The level 10 version would be just that, the first 10 levels of the build.  Factotum 8/Beholder Mage 1/Swiftblade 1.  You wouldn't have the uber raw power of a Wizard 10, but you're taking two standards a round, with almost guaranteed extra precision damage.

Hmm interesting what books are Beholder Mage and Swiftblade in?

what's the starting level?

10 - Gestalt

[Sooner]

Sorry to double post but...

Would Beguiler be an ok partner for the Factotum side of the gestalt. Both work off int, benefit from numerous skills, and who doesn't love some int damage with no saves on all the wizards of the underdark.

[bearsarebrown]

10 - Gestalt

Oh, well, your first post looked like a level 20 build!

[Sooner]

10 - Gestalt

Oh, well, your first post looked like a level 20 build!

Sorry, I had no idea what to do, How should that be posted?

[BowenSilverclaw]

10 - Gestalt

Oh, well, your first post looked like a level 20 build!

Sorry, I had no idea what to do, How should that be posted?

Warblade 10// Factotum 8 / Chameleon 2




EDIT: and it doesn't hurt to actually mention that you're using gestalt rules either

[Sooner]

So would Warblade 10 // Factotum 8 / Chameleon 2 be any good?

So Human or Doppelganger or Changeling (pretty sure I can get this ruled in)

[Prime32]

Hmm interesting what books are Beholder Mage and Swiftblade in?

Note that Beholder Mage requires you to turn yourself into a beholder that has access to its SLAs first, and then poke out your eye (losing antimagic and eyerays). It's a PrC which grants sorcerer casting at ur-priest speed (another level of spells at each level) and the ability to cast multiple spells per round.

Swiftblade is online.

[Sooner]

Note that Beholder Mage requires you to turn yourself into a beholder that has access to its SLAs first, and then poke out your eye (losing antimagic and eyerays). It's a PrC which grants sorcerer casting at ur-priest speed (another level of spells at each level) and the ability to cast multiple spells per round.

Swiftblade is online.

Thank you, that is quite the uh... runaround for a prc. And I thought Swiftblade looked complex.

[Prime32]

Thank you, that is quite the uh... runaround for a prc.

Meh. It's not much of a runaround if you happen to be a beholder, it's just that all the non-beholders saw it and said "WANT!"

[Tshern]

Supernaturals, not SLAs, right?

[Sooner]

Thank you, that is quite the uh... runaround for a prc.

Meh. It's not much of a runaround if you happen to be a beholder, it's just that all the non-beholders saw it and said "WANT!"

Wow I usually have to deal with paladin pcs so I have to blow by most evil casters but man 9th level spells in only 10 levels is sick and multiple a round? That is almost overkill

[KellKheraptis]

It's not available given that it's gesault, but I have a build that gets double 9's with 9th level maneuvers as well.  And IIRC Initiate of Mystra also.  Also another one that's dual 9's without Ur or BM (or SubChord for that matter).  Also with IoM.

[awaken DM golem]

so don't be a Beholder ... be something else.
PAO is one of the few INT jackers.
Plus you can get whatever form you want.
Of course, if it's not available then fizzle.


Minor detail on Beholder Mage ...
you put out the Anti-Magic Eye only,
then B.M. let's you cast spells via the Eye Stalks,
then you get the 10 spells per round thingy,
that's the Dirty Trick #1 part
... being a Beholder without it, is comparatively a yawner; you can't go to town, you can't do blah, you can't use items blah