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Re: Ask a Simple Question; Get a Simple Answer. Version 5.0
« Reply #20 on: October 07, 2009, 12:59:15 PM »
A5 mainly just the psionic sandwich precursor trick.
You mean Polymorph them into something else first? Isn't that how that worked?
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Re: Ask a Simple Question; Get a Simple Answer. Version 5.0
« Reply #21 on: October 07, 2009, 02:00:24 PM »
Speaking of Monks!

Q7: The human body has 216 bones. A skeleton monk can make an unarmed attack with any part of his body. What happens if he decides to pick up multiweapon fighting?
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Re: Ask a Simple Question; Get a Simple Answer. Version 5.0
« Reply #22 on: October 07, 2009, 02:06:26 PM »
Speaking of Monks!

Q7: The human body has 216 bones. A skeleton monk can make an unarmed attack with any part of his body. What happens if he decides to pick up multiweapon fighting?

Nothing. "Unarmed Strike" is a natural weapon, that makes iteratives, that anyone with IUS has.

And even if you want to argue it's not, the question is no different then asking, "The human body has two fists, two knees, a forehead, two elbows, two feet, one chest, ten finger..... what happens if it decides to pick up multiweapon fighting?"

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Re: Ask a Simple Question; Get a Simple Answer. Version 5.0
« Reply #23 on: October 07, 2009, 05:29:05 PM »
Speaking of Monks!

Q7: The human body has 216 bones. A skeleton monk can make an unarmed attack with any part of his body. What happens if he decides to pick up multiweapon fighting?

Nothing. "Unarmed Strike" is a natural weapon, that makes iteratives, that anyone with IUS has.

And even if you want to argue it's not, the question is no different then asking, "The human body has two fists, two knees, a forehead, two elbows, two feet, one chest, ten finger..... what happens if it decides to pick up multiweapon fighting?"

By default natural weapons do not allow iteratives. The monk's unarmed strike already breaks that. The only indication that you might be unable to pick up multi- or two-weapon fighting with the monk is this line:

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There is no such thing as an off-hand
attack for a monk striking unarmed.
A monk may
thus apply her full Strength bonus on damage rolls
for all her unarmed strikes.

However, inserted in the context of the ability's entry, it seems to be there only to explain the presence of the next line.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question; Get a Simple Answer. Version 5.0
« Reply #24 on: October 07, 2009, 05:38:56 PM »
Q8: Can someone explain the Metapower feat to me? Let's say I choose Split Ray as my metapsionic and Energy Ray as the power. Now, does the feat make Split Ray free as long as I use it with Energy Ray? (That is, two minus two extra power points.) What if I have two psionic foci (via Psicrystal containment) and apply Split Ray and Empower? Does Metapower reduce the cost of Empower also? Do I have the option of manifesting Energy Ray without using Split Ray, or does this feat make that impossible?

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Re: Ask a Simple Question; Get a Simple Answer. Version 5.0
« Reply #25 on: October 07, 2009, 07:51:46 PM »
By default natural weapons do not allow iteratives. The monk's unarmed strike already breaks that. The only indication that you might be unable to pick up multi- or two-weapon fighting with the monk is this line:

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There is no such thing as an off-hand
attack for a monk striking unarmed.
A monk may
thus apply her full Strength bonus on damage rolls
for all her unarmed strikes.

However, inserted in the context of the ability's entry, it seems to be there only to explain the presence of the next line.


That's the stupidest thing Wizard has ever printed. That's worse then letting Pun Pun slip through the cracks. That one line has been debated since print. I think my explanation is the intent, but RAW? It honestly doesn't make sense. It's especially silly when in the FAQ it is stated that you can take TWF to allow for more attacks. But that begs the question, how? Due to how IUS is written, it'd be like taking TWF to make offhand attacks with a two handed weapon. If IUS is a special type of natural attack that allows iterative attacks, that makes sense. But if it allows TWF, that implies there is an offhand, because that's why TWF does, lowers penalties on offhand strikes. Therefore, if you can make offhand attacks, whats to stop you from taking Multi-weapon fighting? ...nothing. You're right. If there is an offhand attack option for IUS, there are infinite attack options for IUS.

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Re: Ask a Simple Question; Get a Simple Answer. Version 5.0
« Reply #26 on: October 07, 2009, 08:27:44 PM »
Q9: Empower Spell feat, plus Dispel Magic spell, equals boosted Caster Level check?
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Re: Ask a Simple Question; Get a Simple Answer. Version 5.0
« Reply #27 on: October 07, 2009, 08:49:23 PM »
By default natural weapons do not allow iteratives. The monk's unarmed strike already breaks that. The only indication that you might be unable to pick up multi- or two-weapon fighting with the monk is this line:

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There is no such thing as an off-hand
attack for a monk striking unarmed.
A monk may
thus apply her full Strength bonus on damage rolls
for all her unarmed strikes.

However, inserted in the context of the ability's entry, it seems to be there only to explain the presence of the next line.


That's the stupidest thing Wizard has ever printed. That's worse then letting Pun Pun slip through the cracks. That one line has been debated since print. I think my explanation is the intent, but RAW? It honestly doesn't make sense. It's especially silly when in the FAQ it is stated that you can take TWF to allow for more attacks. But that begs the question, how? Due to how IUS is written, it'd be like taking TWF to make offhand attacks with a two handed weapon. If IUS is a special type of natural attack that allows iterative attacks, that makes sense. But if it allows TWF, that implies there is an offhand, because that's why TWF does, lowers penalties on offhand strikes. Therefore, if you can make offhand attacks, whats to stop you from taking Multi-weapon fighting? ...nothing. You're right. If there is an offhand attack option for IUS, there are infinite attack options for IUS.

Yes. Yes, it's beyond silliness. And the funniest thing is, an unarmed strike is considered a light weapon, so you cannot use two-handed fighting with it!

That's right. You can't use both fists to punch someone in the face!

Now imagine the same question on something with more bones.  :smirk

I think this is going to the Halloween build thread.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question; Get a Simple Answer. Version 5.0
« Reply #28 on: October 07, 2009, 09:11:19 PM »
Q10: Why is the seventh level ability of the dracolexi to refill his spell slots not a big deal?




Q11: where is the dungeon crasher variant?

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Re: Ask a Simple Question; Get a Simple Answer. Version 5.0
« Reply #29 on: October 07, 2009, 09:25:58 PM »
By default natural weapons do not allow iteratives. The monk's unarmed strike already breaks that. The only indication that you might be unable to pick up multi- or two-weapon fighting with the monk is this line:

Quote
There is no such thing as an off-hand
attack for a monk striking unarmed.
A monk may
thus apply her full Strength bonus on damage rolls
for all her unarmed strikes.

However, inserted in the context of the ability's entry, it seems to be there only to explain the presence of the next line.


That's the stupidest thing Wizard has ever printed. That's worse then letting Pun Pun slip through the cracks. That one line has been debated since print. I think my explanation is the intent, but RAW? It honestly doesn't make sense. It's especially silly when in the FAQ it is stated that you can take TWF to allow for more attacks. But that begs the question, how? Due to how IUS is written, it'd be like taking TWF to make offhand attacks with a two handed weapon. If IUS is a special type of natural attack that allows iterative attacks, that makes sense. But if it allows TWF, that implies there is an offhand, because that's why TWF does, lowers penalties on offhand strikes. Therefore, if you can make offhand attacks, whats to stop you from taking Multi-weapon fighting? ...nothing. You're right. If there is an offhand attack option for IUS, there are infinite attack options for IUS.
It made more sense in 3.0, when Ambidexterity was a feat.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question; Get a Simple Answer. Version 5.0
« Reply #30 on: October 07, 2009, 09:46:30 PM »
Q11: where is the dungeon crasher variant?
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Dungeonscape, page 10.

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Re: Ask a Simple Question; Get a Simple Answer. Version 5.0
« Reply #31 on: October 07, 2009, 10:12:39 PM »
 Q12 Can an anarchic initiate apply Chaotic Surge to both overchannel and Wild surge on the same power?

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Re: Ask a Simple Question; Get a Simple Answer. Version 5.0
« Reply #32 on: October 07, 2009, 10:36:04 PM »
Q5 How can I break immunity to Mind Affects with my psion? I know Shatter Mind Blank, and that's being out to good use, but what about things innately immune? Is there any way to break it?
A5The Blade of Ragnarok Epic Destiny allows you to suppress an opponent's immunity. Furthermore is you have a lenient DM you can take an Epic Destiny before epic levels.

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Re: Ask a Simple Question; Get a Simple Answer. Version 5.0
« Reply #33 on: October 07, 2009, 10:51:09 PM »
A6: Weapon Supremacy. Requires Greater WEapon Focus and specialization, as well as the relevant weapon mastery, and 18 fighter levels.

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Re: Ask a Simple Question; Get a Simple Answer. Version 5.0
« Reply #34 on: October 07, 2009, 10:52:59 PM »
Q10: Why is the seventh level ability of the dracolexi to refill his spell slots not a big deal?

Took me a while to figure this out, too.

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Re: Ask a Simple Question; Get a Simple Answer. Version 5.0
« Reply #35 on: October 07, 2009, 11:53:24 PM »
Q9: Empower Spell feat, plus Dispel Magic spell, equals boosted Caster Level check?
No, because your bonus on dispel checks is not a variable (no XDY+Z formula).
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Re: Ask a Simple Question; Get a Simple Answer. Version 5.0
« Reply #36 on: October 07, 2009, 11:54:35 PM »
Yes. Yes, it's beyond silliness. And the funniest thing is, an unarmed strike is considered a light weapon, so you cannot use two-handed fighting with it!

That's right. You can't use both fists to punch someone in the face!

Now imagine the same question on something with more bones.  :smirk

I think this is going to the Halloween build thread.

But thats the thing that screws a lot of people up. The have a misconception that IUS means 'punch' and therefore you can TWF because you have two fists. but it's not! IUS is 'strike with any part of the body.' It's all of a martial arts style rolled into a single attack.

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Re: Ask a Simple Question; Get a Simple Answer. Version 5.0
« Reply #37 on: October 08, 2009, 12:15:06 AM »
Yes. Yes, it's beyond silliness. And the funniest thing is, an unarmed strike is considered a light weapon, so you cannot use two-handed fighting with it!

That's right. You can't use both fists to punch someone in the face!

Now imagine the same question on something with more bones.  :smirk

I think this is going to the Halloween build thread.

But thats the thing that screws a lot of people up. The have a misconception that IUS means 'punch' and therefore you can TWF because you have two fists. but it's not! IUS is 'strike with any part of the body.' It's all of a martial arts style rolled into a single attack.

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Re: Ask a Simple Question; Get a Simple Answer. Version 5.0
« Reply #38 on: October 08, 2009, 12:17:16 AM »
Yes. Yes, it's beyond silliness. And the funniest thing is, an unarmed strike is considered a light weapon, so you cannot use two-handed fighting with it!

That's right. You can't use both fists to punch someone in the face!

Now imagine the same question on something with more bones.  :smirk

I think this is going to the Halloween build thread.

But thats the thing that screws a lot of people up. The have a misconception that IUS means 'punch' and therefore you can TWF because you have two fists. but it's not! IUS is 'strike with any part of the body.' It's all of a martial arts style rolled into a single attack.

You can TWF. It's in the FAQ.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question; Get a Simple Answer. Version 5.0
« Reply #39 on: October 08, 2009, 12:43:44 AM »
Yes. Yes, it's beyond silliness. And the funniest thing is, an unarmed strike is considered a light weapon, so you cannot use two-handed fighting with it!

That's right. You can't use both fists to punch someone in the face!

Now imagine the same question on something with more bones.  :smirk

I think this is going to the Halloween build thread.

But thats the thing that screws a lot of people up. The have a misconception that IUS means 'punch' and therefore you can TWF because you have two fists. but it's not! IUS is 'strike with any part of the body.' It's all of a martial arts style rolled into a single attack.

You can TWF. It's in the FAQ.

The FAQ says that you can use the unarmed strike in TWF, but not as both parts. Nowhere has Wizards ever confirmed that you can use Two Weapon Fighting with two unarmed strikes. It's very frustrating, and this argument is always very frustrating. If we're going to debate it, it deserves its own thread.