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Re: Any use for noncombat pets?
« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2009, 05:06:43 PM »
Pretty sure this argument already went over at the wizards boards and they got a designer to say they didn't intend for psicrystals to work that way. If the DM allows it that would be useful, though.
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Re: Any use for noncombat pets?
« Reply #21 on: September 24, 2009, 05:14:39 PM »
Quote from: Scottbert on September 24, 2009, 05:06:43 PM
Pretty sure this argument already went over at the wizards boards and they got a designer to say they didn't intend for psicrystals to work that way. If the DM allows it that would be useful, though.
since when did the min/max boards care about their intentions? errata or it stays  :D
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Re: Any use for noncombat pets?
« Reply #22 on: September 24, 2009, 05:34:39 PM »
Quote from: Scottbert on September 24, 2009, 05:06:43 PM
Pretty sure this argument already went over at the wizards boards and they got a designer to say they didn't intend for psicrystals to work that way. If the DM allows it that would be useful, though.
What they said was "while we didn't intend for it to work that way, as the rules are currently written it explicitly does".

Even if he will just allow you to swap out the Alertness feat for Mindsight (once you hit 5th level), it can be incredibly useful. There are a couple of "tricks" that can be used to do this.

Even without mindsight, psicrystals can make awesome scouts. I'd definitely find out about how you replace one, though. If he says you take the XP hit as you would for losing a familiar, I might not risk it.
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Re: Any use for noncombat pets?
« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2009, 05:53:02 PM »
What's mindsight?

After further discussion with the DM he decided UMD/UPD use by familiars/psicrystals was okay after all.
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Re: Any use for noncombat pets?
« Reply #24 on: September 24, 2009, 06:01:49 PM »
Quote from: Scottbert on September 24, 2009, 05:53:02 PM
What's mindsight?

After further discussion with the DM he decided UMD/UPD use by familiars/psicrystals was okay after all.

It's a feat from Lords of Madness that lets you sense the location of any thinking creature (int 1+) within range of your telepathy.
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Re: Any use for noncombat pets?
« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2009, 06:28:10 PM »
Psycrystals can't take Shape Soulmeld they don't have 13 Con. Or any Con.
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Re: Any use for noncombat pets?
« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2009, 08:42:23 PM »
Quote from: bearsarebrown on September 24, 2009, 06:28:10 PM
Psycrystals can't take Shape Soulmeld they don't have 13 Con. Or any Con.
The (wo?)man has a point. And constructs don't even get a feat like the undead do.

But that's why you take the Shape Soulmeld feat and then take Share Soulmeld. It never says construct 'familiars' can't use YOUR soulmelds. But that's a bit physhie.
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Re: Any use for noncombat pets?
« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2009, 08:48:32 PM »
If you can get access to scrolls and UMD/UPD, you can always make a Haunt Shifted pet.  Consider having a dead feline of at least 10 HD, animating it, and then Haunt Shifting it (using some holy arrows) into a Huge cat-like statue body that's hardened a great deal (I know there's a great Psion power for hardening).  Make sure that you've used Permanent Shrink Item on the body first.  Now you have a nearly indestructable tiny cat that can turn into a huge cat at will.  Fun!

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Re: Any use for noncombat pets?
« Reply #28 on: September 25, 2009, 03:50:49 AM »
Quote from: PhaedrusXY on September 24, 2009, 04:34:38 PM
Quote from: Scottbert on September 24, 2009, 04:33:49 PM
Related to this: Can Tiny creatures be useful in combat? If they can be that might justify getting a Wild Cohort rather than just a regular pet.
I can't really see how a tiny wild cohort would be useful in combat, no.

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Re: Any use for noncombat pets?
« Reply #29 on: September 25, 2009, 04:05:59 AM »
You could have an awakened Ioun stone :lmao
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Re: Any use for noncombat pets?
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