the true arcane dilliante

[McPoyo]

pun-pun

He's like the Godwin of borderline-TO builds.

[Anklebite]

That's true. You can cover most bases with Ex things but you just can't keep full coverage without spells. I'm just trying to figure something out that will stop it.

you pretty much need epic spells to stop a disjunction. the damn thing is overpowered as hell; but not in a good way, you can't really make use of it in a campaign. do so, and lose loot.

[KellKheraptis]

I've got it!  My build for killing the TBoS I wanted to be stylish.  MDJ, followed by at least a DC 60+spell level save or die.     Twice-Betrayer, DC 68 Save or Die, reroll it if you do roll a nat 20.  And just to be sure, cast out of a quickened Greater Arcane Fusion so there's something else making a grease spot out of the corpse.

[Anklebite]

I've got it!  My build for killing the TBoS I wanted to be stylish.  MDJ, followed by at least a DC 60+spell level save or die.     Twice-Betrayer, DC 68 Save or Die, reroll it if you do roll a nat 20.  And just to be sure, cast out of a quickened Greater Arcane Fusion so there's something else making a grease spot out of the corpse.

my version of "stylish" is slightly different.

cast MDJ.

cast Iceberg.  laugh as the so-called unkillable build dies from being unable to breathe or move while being crushed under several hundred tons of ice.

[KellKheraptis]

Here we go : Chained Apocalypse from the Sky.  DC 70.  Explosive.  Sculpted a spot out for us, contingent Planar Bubble to keep from suffocating on the off chance we were lazy and didn't bother making breathing a non-issue.  Watch the world burn.  Literally.  All of it.  With the last little spot being where he's standing

[PhaedrusXY]

Here we go : Chained Apocalypse from the Sky.  DC 70.  Explosive.  Sculpted a spot out for us, contingent Planar Bubble to keep from suffocating on the off chance we were lazy and didn't bother making breathing a non-issue.  Watch the world burn.  Literally.  All of it.  With the last little spot being where he's standing

Except Explosive means everyone else flies towards that spot where he is standing... Better also be incorporeal.

[KellKheraptis]

Here we go : Chained Apocalypse from the Sky.  DC 70.  Explosive.  Sculpted a spot out for us, contingent Planar Bubble to keep from suffocating on the off chance we were lazy and didn't bother making breathing a non-issue.  Watch the world burn.  Literally.  All of it.  With the last little spot being where he's standing

Except Explosive means everyone else flies towards that spot where he is standing... Better also be incorporeal.

That can be done as well.  Hell, my build is a shadowcraft mage...for all the TBoS knows I considered him such an ant I used my CL to make a Sim at mostly full power and it owned his ass

[McPoyo]

Question on the ur-priest build posted back on page one: How do you qualify for SotAO with only a single level of paladin, prestige or no?

[KellKheraptis]

Question on the ur-priest build posted back on page one: How do you qualify for SotAO with only a single level of paladin, prestige or no?

Dicey reading of Dragon Magic pg 18.  Partly RAI also on the Ranger and Paladin deity specific feats, but since proven RAW illegal.  Besides...the new one gets higher CL and WAY more spell slots, at impossible DC's.  And 100% RAW legal, if kinda cheesy on the early entry...but fuck, that's the least of a DM's worries when something has Tainted Sorc/SCM and a CL over 140

[Hijax]

Kell, the previous build you said was in error because it was using circle magic, I'm assuming that's where the +40 cl to each class was coming from? If not, where did that come from?

Edit:

i'm not sure which to be more worried about, the fact that i'm apparently mad, or that i just lay down positive arguments regarding that fact.

Do you wear a hat and/or enjoy tea parties?

you have no idea how hard i fought to resist the "Mad as a hatter" schtick.

but no, i usually wear a hood. crap, there's another reference!
and fuck tea. real men drink coffee.

[Anklebite]

Kell, the previous build you said was in error because it was using circle magic, I'm assuming that's where the +40 cl to each class was coming from? If not, where did that come from?

Edit:

i'm not sure which to be more worried about, the fact that i'm apparently mad, or that i just lay down positive arguments regarding that fact.

Do you wear a hat and/or enjoy tea parties?

you have no idea how hard i fought to resist the "Mad as a hatter" schtick.

but no, i usually wear a hood. crap, there's another reference!
and fuck tea. real men drink coffee.

hey now, don't be dissin' tea.  I have a special homebrew ( ) version I make that has been dubbed "death tea", or "the tea of death".

basically, about 12 caffeine filled tea bags in 4 liters of water, along with another 4 camomile tea bags, and then add a cup or two of sugar.  the result is a super potent caffeine buzz that doesn't cause hyperactivity, allowing for several hours of win.  recipe is, of course, party sized. and is normally iced.  I use it for DnD.

[Hijax]

Kell, the previous build you said was in error because it was using circle magic, I'm assuming that's where the +40 cl to each class was coming from? If not, where did that come from?

Edit:

i'm not sure which to be more worried about, the fact that i'm apparently mad, or that i just lay down positive arguments regarding that fact.

Do you wear a hat and/or enjoy tea parties?

you have no idea how hard i fought to resist the "Mad as a hatter" schtick.

but no, i usually wear a hood. crap, there's another reference!
and fuck tea. real men drink coffee.

hey now, don't be dissin' tea.  I have a special homebrew ( ) version I make that has been dubbed "death tea", or "the tea of death".

basically, about 12 caffeine filled tea bags in 4 liters of water, along with another 4 camomile tea bags, and then add a cup or two of sugar.  the result is a super potent caffeine buzz that doesn't cause hyperactivity, allowing for several hours of win.  recipe is, of course, party sized. and is normally iced.  I use it for DnD.

FUCK PARTY SIZE!


i am changing my opinion on tea.

i wonder where one would buy caffeine around here.

[Anklebite]

Kell, the previous build you said was in error because it was using circle magic, I'm assuming that's where the +40 cl to each class was coming from? If not, where did that come from?

Edit:

i'm not sure which to be more worried about, the fact that i'm apparently mad, or that i just lay down positive arguments regarding that fact.

Do you wear a hat and/or enjoy tea parties?

you have no idea how hard i fought to resist the "Mad as a hatter" schtick.

but no, i usually wear a hood. crap, there's another reference!
and fuck tea. real men drink coffee.

hey now, don't be dissin' tea.  I have a special homebrew ( ) version I make that has been dubbed "death tea", or "the tea of death".

basically, about 12 caffeine filled tea bags in 4 liters of water, along with another 4 camomile tea bags, and then add a cup or two of sugar.  the result is a super potent caffeine buzz that doesn't cause hyperactivity, allowing for several hours of win.  recipe is, of course, party sized. and is normally iced.  I use it for DnD.

FUCK PARTY SIZE!


i am changing my opinion on tea.

i wonder where one would buy caffeine around here.

you miss-interpret. it's "party sized" because of how many I usually end up sharing with.  although, come to think of it, people often decline....

"hey, want some tea?"

"sure, what kind?"

"ah, It's a specialty of mine. I call it The Tea of Death."

".....I think I'll pass."

the conversation tends to go like that.

[Hijax]

Kell, the previous build you said was in error because it was using circle magic, I'm assuming that's where the +40 cl to each class was coming from? If not, where did that come from?

Edit:

i'm not sure which to be more worried about, the fact that i'm apparently mad, or that i just lay down positive arguments regarding that fact.

Do you wear a hat and/or enjoy tea parties?

you have no idea how hard i fought to resist the "Mad as a hatter" schtick.

but no, i usually wear a hood. crap, there's another reference!
and fuck tea. real men drink coffee.

hey now, don't be dissin' tea.  I have a special homebrew ( ) version I make that has been dubbed "death tea", or "the tea of death".

basically, about 12 caffeine filled tea bags in 4 liters of water, along with another 4 camomile tea bags, and then add a cup or two of sugar.  the result is a super potent caffeine buzz that doesn't cause hyperactivity, allowing for several hours of win.  recipe is, of course, party sized. and is normally iced.  I use it for DnD.

FUCK PARTY SIZE!


i am changing my opinion on tea.

i wonder where one would buy caffeine around here.

you miss-interpret. it's "party sized" because of how many I usually end up sharing with.  although, come to think of it, people often decline....

"hey, want some tea?"

"sure, what kind?"

"ah, It's a specialty of mine. I call it The Tea of Death."

".....I think I'll pass."

the conversation tends to go like that.

I like this thing more and more.

"Hey i'm brewing some caffeine bomb for the party tonight"

"Sure thi... OHMYGODTHERESLIKE4LITERSTHERE!"

"yeah, this is for the whole group"

"ah"

2 hours later

"Do you guys want some tea of death?"

"uhh... no?"

"whatever, more for me" *swallows 4 liters of caffeine-laced tea, then gets killed by angry intestines*

[Anklebite]

optimizing tea is like optimizing kobolds: at first, "what the crap is this? I can't use this shit! it doesn't work well at all!".

after one begins to truely understand it, however.... you find yourself hard pressed not to automatically include it in everything.

[KellKheraptis]

When I make tea (rare occasion since my wife is just as avid an espresso junkie as I am, though less so on the stronger java) it tends to go a similar route.  However...ever seen Colombian coffee that is utterly jet black?  Heh, if you have to sink to the level of the arabica bean, at least use it properly   And my espresso has been called a heart attack in a cup.  And since I drink on average 3-4 pots of super charged coffee a day (at least 1 just to wake up), it takes like 2 NOS back to back for the caffeine to really start to make me fly.  Anything less just keeps the withdrawal headache away

[Hijax]

When I make tea (rare occasion since my wife is just as avid an espresso junkie as I am, though less so on the stronger java) it tends to go a similar route.  However...ever seen Colombian coffee that is utterly jet black?  Heh, if you have to sink to the level of the arabica bean, at least use it properly   And my espresso has been called a heart attack in a cup.  And since I drink on average 3-4 pots of super charged coffee a day (at least 1 just to wake up), it takes like 2 NOS back to back for the caffeine to really start to make me fly.  Anything less just keeps the withdrawal headache away

enter pure caffeine shots. extremely dangerous? yeah. but using the kobolds analogy above, it can be compared to the danger of book smacking performed by the DM.

[Anklebite]

I once tried mixing espresso in the death tea. didn't take so well.  granted, it had enough caffeine to kill a horse, but the taste was awful.  luckily, I only ruined one glass of the stuff that way, which I was able to drink after diluting with dairy.

[KellKheraptis]

When I make tea (rare occasion since my wife is just as avid an espresso junkie as I am, though less so on the stronger java) it tends to go a similar route.  However...ever seen Colombian coffee that is utterly jet black?  Heh, if you have to sink to the level of the arabica bean, at least use it properly   And my espresso has been called a heart attack in a cup.  And since I drink on average 3-4 pots of super charged coffee a day (at least 1 just to wake up), it takes like 2 NOS back to back for the caffeine to really start to make me fly.  Anything less just keeps the withdrawal headache away

enter pure caffeine shots. extremely dangerous? yeah. but using the kobolds analogy above, it can be compared to the danger of book smacking performed by the DM.

I wish  the closest we have to this is a coffee shot that's like 100 mg or more of caffeine condensed into a creamer container for fast food coffee.  Now...once I did make an entire 24 oz cup of coffee using just the coffee shots...THAT gave me a buzz, and possibly at the time an irregular heartbeat, but meh...only live once in this body, and they don't pay ya for bringing it all home anyway

[Hijax]

I once tried mixing espresso in the death tea. didn't take so well.  granted, it had enough caffeine to kill a horse, but the taste was awful.  luckily, I only ruined one glass of the stuff that way, which I was able to drink after diluting with dairy.

have you been maxing your fort saves?