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Character for 3.5 Free +4 LA Power game
« on: July 17, 2009, 03:51:39 PM »
Our group is playing a power-game, dungeon crawl. We are stretching the game rules to the limit and breaking them. This is a very 1st edition type of dungeon crawl filled with traps, nasties above the normal CR for our level, and general abuse of game mechanics. We are limited to PHB spells (until found in dungeon). I am looking for a rogue type. We have no arcane spell casters, so UMD would be nice as well. Stats were rolled 5d6 drop lowest. Stats are 18, 17, 16, 16, 14, 13.

We have access to all WoTC settings and splat books except some of the latter ones, (No ToB or Dragon Magic). We also can use Dragonlance and Ravenloft from S&S. Good focused (Evil prohibited). Cleric worship is pantheon based, not individual deities.

We are starting from level 1, ignoring epic rules - progression is to be more like 1st edition. Setting is DM's War world - cities ripped from every published setting and dropped randomly. There is a lot of culture bleed from across settings. Action points have also been included.

I am looking for any suggestions that can be offered to achieve the best combination for a skill monkey with a high UMD (but not to the exclusion of her other skills). All the other characters have darkvision so it would help. Since the LA's are not going to hinder us in advancement I would like to take advantage of them.
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Re: Character for 3.5 Free +4 LA Power game
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2009, 05:31:56 PM »
Well, as Rogue types go have you looked at the Factotum class for Dungeonscape? It has all skills as class skills and a bunch of other nifty abilities. Scouts also make good skillmonkeys, thier skirmish is more dependable than sneak attack, especially with the feat Swift Hunter from Complete Scoundrel.

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Re: Character for 3.5 Free +4 LA Power game
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2009, 06:20:16 PM »
D-dragonlance?  And all settings?  And you don't have any arcane caster?

No loredrake abomination white dragonspawn black dragonspawn venerable dragonwrought desert kobold sorcerers?  For shame!  You could be casting at five or six sorcerer levels above your character level.

Heck, choose that race anyway and be a rogue.  You'll have the casting of a level four or five sorcerer at level one (if you have ungodly luck with the dice, theoretically you could be casting as a level eight sorcerer, but the odds of that are one in 244,140,625.  Your odds of getting any particular mutation are 8.147% or so, but all of the randomly generated ability are pretty fantastic (the worst one just gives you +5 to spot, but you can also get goodies like a +4 racial bonus to con, fast healing, spell resistance, or the previously mentioned increase in effective sorcerer levels)

Oh, and your stat mods?
-2 STR +4 DEX +4 CON -1 INT -3 WIS +5 CHA.
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Re: Character for 3.5 Free +4 LA Power game
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2009, 06:30:10 PM »
Pixies are fun if you don't want to be a slave to an evil dragon :)
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Re: Character for 3.5 Free +4 LA Power game
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2009, 06:33:12 PM »
Pixies are fun if you don't want to be a slave to an evil dragon :)

Slave to an evil dragon?  More like ex-slave to TWO evil dragons.

And even if the DM quibbles on the "ex-" part, what the heck will you be doing the whole game?  Going around in a cave collecting treasure and killing things, and what dragon would interfere with that?

Since you're both white dragonspawn AND black dragonspawn, you'll be gray in color - which is associated with the incredibly impartial god of dragons, which should deal with any roleplaying cutscenes.
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Re: Character for 3.5 Free +4 LA Power game
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2009, 04:14:25 PM »
Pixes are amazing in this situation. Huge stat bonuses, greater invisibility always on. Plenty of good in there, without having to layer on dragon stuff (although the dragonspawn and whatever templates are also sexy).

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Re: Character for 3.5 Free +4 LA Power game
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2009, 04:14:53 PM »
Dark +1 (ToM) Shadow Walker +1 (UE) Shadow +2 (LoM) Whisper Gnome (RoS)
Dark Vision, Hide in Plain Sight, Bonus to movement, Shadow Blend, Fast Healing, Some SLAs, and other stealthy stuff

With this you could go with a Rogue/ Beguiler/ Unseen Seer build or maybe a Telfammar Shadowlord build. Either way if it's rogue based you'll have UMD as a class skill.

You'll end up with a dex of 22 if you put the 18 into it. At 1st level with all this stuff added in and 4 ranks each you'll have Hide +30 and Move Silently +26. This with the Darkstalker, Hide in Plain Sight, and Shadow Blend could make for an interesting build.

Other feats to consider would be Magic in Blood (for 15 SLAs at 1st level), Craven, Silencing Strike, and Weapon Finesse

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Re: Character for 3.5 Free +4 LA Power game
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2009, 04:22:15 PM »
Keep in mind that the hide in plain sight that Dark-templated creatures get is (sadly) NOT the same HiPS that Shadowdancers get. It's akin to the HiPS that rangers get (hide while being observed, but you still need concealment). Pixies don't really need to worry about that, since they're always invisible. I do like those templates, though. Another option could be something like a mineral warrior, feral half-ogre for a melee specialist.

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« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2009, 05:27:37 PM »
If you decide to abuse magic in the blood, consider lesser fey'ri and the phrenic template.  That will add a lot  of versatility, and leave you with two LA to play with.
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Re: Character for 3.5 Free +4 LA Power game
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2009, 10:15:16 PM »
If you can handle the RP, you could consider Saint.  Take a few vows and have the strongest +2 LA template in the game.   If it were me, my first thought would be a Phrenic Saint Loredrake Venerable Kobold.  Sorc Casting of 9 at level 6, and a level 1 starting charisma of 29.

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« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2009, 11:14:03 PM »
Given the need for an arcane caster type and a skillmonkey, I think Beguiler is custom built for what you want (at least if the DM vetos the wierd kobold sorcerer shenanigans) Pixie is probably your best bet, but half celestial or Draconic Half Fey wouldn't suck.

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Re: Character for 3.5 Free +4 LA Power game
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2009, 12:15:38 PM »
Since you're both white dragonspawn AND black dragonspawn, you'll be gray in color - which is associated with the incredibly impartial god of dragons, which should deal with any roleplaying cutscenes.
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Re: Character for 3.5 Free +4 LA Power game
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2009, 02:19:45 PM »
I agree that a pixie beguiler is probably your best bet. I suggest liberal use of silent image as your main battlefield control